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I don't know why people don't get it. (Original Post) kpete May 14 OP
Who does, none of my Democrat friends can comprehend doc03 May 14 #1
They 'love' him because he had made OK to be a selfish racist scumbag. It is not hard to understand. Demsrule86 May 14 #3
"A Trump win would lead to bloodshed and likely a civil war" Polybius May 14 #18
My Prediction if Trump wins Charmin One May 14 #24
Let's hope people stay home. jimfields33 May 14 #28
WalMart won't let that happen New Haven May 14 #44
It's not being like them because he will start arresting LT Barclay May 14 #29
If Biden wins, there will beviolence from Trump** followers/ soldierant May 14 #41
Takes two sides to wage a war... MiHale May 14 #34
I predict Charmin One May 14 #37
LOL dpibel Tuesday #51
The repug voters want meanness and crulity for Dems & Libs, that's all they care about. Hotler May 14 #2
This! ... OldBoss May 14 #23
And profitable. OldBaldy1701E May 14 #26
Our culture too often promotes the mentality of "heroic" or protagonist bad guys. Uncle Joe May 14 #4
How deplorable are the Deplorables? They KNOW this and don't care. NoMoreRepugs May 14 #5
We're overlooking the obvious. plimsoll May 14 #6
love it how the rs have been screaming what u just posted for years . and it will happen to them. AllaN01Bear May 14 #10
i cant say what i want to say. x rated rant. AllaN01Bear May 14 #7
Lot of US ( DU'rs) in that boat!! bluestarone May 14 #30
I say the exact thing each morning Mr.Bee May 14 #8
Brain washed MAGAts only see "FAKE NEWS" KS Toronado May 14 #9
"fake news" ... "liberal media" krkaufman May 14 #19
THAT, and a lot of simple religious folk actually believe TFG was anointed by GOD Martin Eden May 14 #25
So true I knew in the late 80's he was scum ! kimbutgar May 14 #11
Yes PatSeg May 14 #12
Cultists are going to cult Half-step May 14 #13
It's pure desperation nikatnyte May 14 #14
FoxNews says he's God. dchill May 14 #15
anagram poozwah May 14 #17
Dogs deserve better krkaufman May 14 #20
They put themselves in his place, not the place of the victim. Demobrat May 14 #16
Nice people hide their spiteful impulses. hay rick May 14 #21
Because he gets away with this. So far. So the huddled masses cheer him question everything May 14 #22
People love him because he seems to be "successful". He has huge (and garish) hotels, Ping Tung May 14 #27
In my honest opinion, one of the most egregious things they have done is to kill CIVICS classes in public schools...... usaf-vet May 14 #31
You're absolutely right about the current lack of Civics classes. BarbD May 14 #35
Where did this come from? senseandsensibility May 14 #32
Raised on robbery. moondust May 14 #33
He is a marketer. From day one he slithered off the escalator he began validating the racist base Passages May 14 #36
Nailed it but sadly malaise May 14 #38
Because Faux pas May 14 #39
He gets away with things his supporters... ThoughtCriminal May 14 #40
They believe Trump will only cheat, betray, lie to, and screw the kind of people they don't like. Beartracks May 14 #42
Well, a good mark can't tell when they're being swindled, betrayed, or cheated. n/t Beartracks Tuesday #50
Ha ha ha! This wasn't supposed to be a reply to my own post!! Oh well. Beartracks Friday #53
We cheat the other guy Turbineguy May 14 #43
Yeah but I want change and he will bring change, Biden won't. Kablooie May 14 #45
Hmm.... bdamomma May 14 #46
The whole party is OK with all that. SleeplessinSoCal May 14 #47
they do it while calling themselves CHRISTIANS Skittles Tuesday #52
Racism Trumps Trump Edwcraig May 14 #48
He's giving them permission to do the same. D23MIURG23 May 15 #49

doc03

(35,533 posts)
1. Who does, none of my Democrat friends can comprehend
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:37 AM
May 14

why people vote for Trump. I saw a marker on a grave at the cemetery "This man had no redeemable qualities, but he was loved".

Demsrule86

(68,983 posts)
3. They 'love' him because he had made OK to be a selfish racist scumbag. It is not hard to understand.
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:50 AM
May 14

I don't care to understand them any more than I have any interest in understanding Concentration Camp guards. Trump is not just a con artist. He is pure evil. Anyone who follows him is an idiot, dishonest cruel, racist, and, misogynistic. A Trump win would lead to bloodshed and likely a civil war.

Polybius

(15,601 posts)
18. "A Trump win would lead to bloodshed and likely a civil war"
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:45 AM
May 14

The other side says that will happen if Biden wins. Let's not be like them.

Charmin One

(15 posts)
24. My Prediction if Trump wins
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:30 PM
May 14

Inauguration day: massive protests in DC. Trump orders troops to break up protests. Tear gas and billy clubs and arrests used on protsters. ANTIFA responds, throwing rocks at police. Police cracks down even more. Protesters respond by burning and overturning cars and spraying grafitti on government buildings. Ppolice responds even more. The gutless press blames both sides. In short, I predict a BIG riot.

LT Barclay

(2,636 posts)
29. It's not being like them because he will start arresting
Tue May 14, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 14

rivals, protesters and critics, and the courts seem split about backing him; and we know how the SCOTUS will rule.

soldierant

(7,042 posts)
41. If Biden wins, there will beviolence from Trump** followers/
Tue May 14, 2024, 05:43 PM
May 14

If Trump** winds, there will be violence from Trump** flollowers.

Those are just facts. Saying so is not "being like them."

MiHale

(9,852 posts)
34. Takes two sides to wage a war...
Tue May 14, 2024, 03:13 PM
May 14

President Biden’s side isn’t like that. And then with that said why does a war start? They got what they wanted. Please don’t spread needless fear.
Yes I’d be angry, disappointed, disgusted, thinking the only way it could happen was cheating, but violence is not an acceptable answer.

dpibel

(2,927 posts)
51. LOL
Tue May 21, 2024, 10:35 PM
Tuesday

You do know that "Portland, Oregon" has a distinct odor about it. [On edit] You're talking about the Portland that was burnt right to the ground and is a smoking ruin, right?

Welcome to DU!

I'm pretty sure you'll be a valued member for a long, long time!!1!

Hotler

(11,539 posts)
2. The repug voters want meanness and crulity for Dems & Libs, that's all they care about.
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:44 AM
May 14

The orange one is their chance to hurt the Dems & Libs. He's a mean, nasty and cruel man and that is what they like about him.

OldBoss

(25 posts)
23. This! ...
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:20 PM
May 14

It’s all about hate - which is the saddest part of this equation. Hatred rules with these kooks, I don’t bother to reason with them. They know where I stand. I go out of my way to engage and reason with independents and moderates, but the cultists aren’t worth a nano-second of my time.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,264 posts)
26. And profitable.
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:50 PM
May 14

Being a hate-filled, racist scumbag creates many opportunities for business-minded leeches to siphon money from them by playing to their rhetoric and desires. There are whole industries that are pandering to these animals and we are doing little to nothing to call them out for it.

After all, it is just good business to bleed both sides of any issue, all the while covertly stoking both sides. The modern media is a great example of this practice.

Uncle Joe

(58,713 posts)
4. Our culture too often promotes the mentality of "heroic" or protagonist bad guys.
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:52 AM
May 14

In T.V. movies, music and publishing.

Good has been equated with "boring."

I believe this is purposeful as oligarchs and major corporate conglomerates have largely monopolized the media and that increasingly disconnects them from the legitimate needs of the people.

Their top decision makers on programming or publishing isolated from the masses then become increasingly cynical and alienated from the American Public.

In that sense they have more in common with fellow oligarchs overseas.

Thanks for the thread kpete



plimsoll

(1,672 posts)
6. We're overlooking the obvious.
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:11 AM
May 14

They don't think it will happen to them.
They think they'll be the guards at the camp.
They think they'll get the jobs those evil "libruls" are stealing from them.

They may be right about the camp guards.

AllaN01Bear

(19,236 posts)
10. love it how the rs have been screaming what u just posted for years . and it will happen to them.
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:15 AM
May 14

he dosnt give a hoot hoot hoot abut anyone , even his followers an they don get it. late mum. wait untill it goes dow n . let it all go down and they will whine and pine how good they had it.

Mr.Bee

(197 posts)
8. I say the exact thing each morning
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:13 AM
May 14

They think he's Elvis.
They think he's Jesus.
They shun their friends and neighbours.
The devil knows how to trick you.

krkaufman

(13,446 posts)
19. "fake news" ... "liberal media"
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:48 AM
May 14

It’s not all that tough to see, it’s the inevitable point that’s been warned of for decades. Trump and his “fake news” is just a variation of “liberal media” that’s been used as an essential tool in equipping the cognitive dissonance firewall in the brains of Right Wing media consumers, from talk radio and Internet sites to Fox News et al.

Decades of lying and collecting an audience open to and thirsty for the lies makes an attractive and easy mark for a con man.

kimbutgar

(21,353 posts)
11. So true I knew in the late 80's he was scum !
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:58 AM
May 14

never liked him, never watched the apprentice, before he ran for president when he came on I changed the channel, didn’t like him them really dislike him immensely now!

PatSeg

(47,955 posts)
12. Yes
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:14 AM
May 14

It was obvious the first time I heard him speak on TV. How can so many not see it? It is really unnerving.

Half-step

(82 posts)
13. Cultists are going to cult
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:33 AM
May 14

I agree that it is hard to believe that these people can't see clearly. However, don't forget that he is not just some solitary person ranting at the sky. In addition to legal support, the GOP allowed TFG to hitch himself to their wagon. This is basically what happens when someone who is charismatic (to some) connects with a prominent organization that has been literally marketing disinformation for decades. And it's awful.

nikatnyte

(245 posts)
14. It's pure desperation
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:36 AM
May 14

Our country has been building toward this for many years: for so long the domain of older, white males, the U.S. is becoming multiracial, multicultural, and omnisexual. The old guard (now the extreme right-wing Qanon GOP) is desperate to retain its power, and they can only do it through lies and threats of violence. As the desperation grows, look for their efforts to become more extreme. Will it come to an actual civil war? I don't think so, but it requires the rest of us (a large majority) to vote and do whatever we can to keep truth in the equation.

Demobrat

(9,104 posts)
16. They put themselves in his place, not the place of the victim.
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:40 AM
May 14

When they hear those stories they don’t think “Oh, the poor victim” like a normal person.

They think “I wish I could get away with that”.

And they idolize Trump because he does.

hay rick

(7,720 posts)
21. Nice people hide their spiteful impulses.
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:00 PM
May 14

When they support Trump they may suspect he's going to screw them too, but they think he will screw other people worse- and they are ok with that.

Ping Tung

(868 posts)
27. People love him because he seems to be "successful". He has huge (and garish) hotels,
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:58 PM
May 14

his own jets, many servants,. three trophy wives, political lapdogs,who tell him he's a "somebody" and pulled himself up by his golden shoelaces.

There is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success. Lord Acton

usaf-vet

(6,295 posts)
31. In my honest opinion, one of the most egregious things they have done is to kill CIVICS classes in public schools......
Tue May 14, 2024, 02:23 PM
May 14

I believe that at some point in the past, it was decided that the only way to really dumb down citizens was to deny them the chance to understand how our Democracy works, what made it strong and keeps it strong, and what voters/citizens need to do.

I took civics and government classes in high school in my sophomore and junior years.

So why do they support the likes of 45?

I believe no public school civics classes and the pervasive FOX's anti-Democratic fallacies and out-and-out lies, and you have the making of DUMB eligible voters. Dumb low IQ voters. Dumb, struggling voters. And yes, some very rich and powerful agents who only want more power and more riches. And they are willing to hook their wagon to a 21st-century fascist.

A short factual story:

I have a good friend who is a naturalized citizen. I'm guessing that happened in the mid-to-late 1960s. To this day when, we have frequent conversations about the state of our endangered democracy. That individual repeatedly demonstrates that that individual has a better understanding of the things that I learned in two high school classes in the early 1960s than some of my biological relatives and long-time friends.

And YES, I would bet that some of those individuals (family and lifelong friends) have and will vote for 45 again.

BarbD

(1,196 posts)
35. You're absolutely right about the current lack of Civics classes.
Tue May 14, 2024, 03:18 PM
May 14

Born in 1937, I had Civics in grade school where we learned how a bill became a law and other tidbits about how our government works. When my kids were in public school in the seventies, Civics was included in a general, watered down Social Studies curriculum. My granddaughter who is a teacher is now having to teach lockdown procedures.

senseandsensibility

(17,353 posts)
32. Where did this come from?
Tue May 14, 2024, 02:29 PM
May 14

I ask because it would make a great ad for Dems. Just put on the screen and leave it there for 30 seconds.

moondust

(20,049 posts)
33. Raised on robbery.
Tue May 14, 2024, 02:45 PM
May 14

Greed, selfishness, privilege, supremacy, hate, domination, ...

He's one of them.

Money money money money,
Money money money money.
Money money money money,
Money money money money.

Passages

(285 posts)
36. He is a marketer. From day one he slithered off the escalator he began validating the racist base
Tue May 14, 2024, 03:21 PM
May 14

of the Republican Party. He is good at it, the marketing. Just listen to his insurrection language after he lost Nov 2020.
Leading up to January 6th, he was constantly grooming them to attack the capital.


Trump belongs in jail.

Faux pas

(14,744 posts)
39. Because
Tue May 14, 2024, 04:46 PM
May 14

they only believe the lying liars lies. They represent the 30 plus years of the DUMBING down of 'Merka. The rethug "leadership" should be proud.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,082 posts)
40. He gets away with things his supporters...
Tue May 14, 2024, 04:55 PM
May 14

also want to get away with.

They want to hurt people that are different, they want to embezzle and cheat on their taxes and get away with it. they want to cheat on their spouses and face no consequences. They want to discriminate, insult, threaten violence and be applauded .

Lessons for the rest of us: It is UNWISE to do business with Trump supporters. They ADMIRE his dishonesty. It is UNSAFE to date a Trump supporter - they are okay with sexual assault.


Beartracks

(12,867 posts)
42. They believe Trump will only cheat, betray, lie to, and screw the kind of people they don't like.
Tue May 14, 2024, 06:34 PM
May 14

As if they've never known another cheater, liar, or all-around miscreant in their entire lives.

===============

Kablooie

(18,658 posts)
45. Yeah but I want change and he will bring change, Biden won't.
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:19 PM
May 14

This is what a NY Times poll heard a lot in swing state polls.
Particularly from conservative young black and Hispanic voters.

What they don’t get is that they want change because Republicans have screwed up government so much that it is hurting people. They don’t understand that voting for Trump and Republicans will bring much more of what they want to change. Not create a fresh new government that will make things better.

bdamomma

(64,033 posts)
46. Hmm....
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:23 PM
May 14

they think this POS "cares" about them????? He only cares about himself. They just don't get it.

The worst thing is that this trial is not being televised to the American people, it's a slap in the face to us all.

People need to know what a criminal con artist he is. Falling asleep?????? WTF.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,245 posts)
47. The whole party is OK with all that.
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:45 PM
May 14

They admire those traits.

I'd like to hear from those that fled like Corker and Flake. Although they knew it was going to turn out like this. Their von Shitzinpantz has friends in dark places.

D23MIURG23

(2,857 posts)
49. He's giving them permission to do the same.
Wed May 15, 2024, 08:49 AM
May 15

In Trump world you can be as offensive and bigoted as you want. You can say and believe whatever you want without regard for evidence. You don't have to worry about anything but "owning the libs".

Also, he said what they wanted to hear, so they'll go ahead and attribute the Obama economy to him.

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