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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeutsche Bank cuts off Trump and wants its money!
Link to tweet
Michael Holmes @holmescnn
@nytimes - Deutsche Bank, which has been Trumps primary lender for two decades, has decided not to do business with Trump or his company in the future.
Trump currently owes Deutsche Bank more than $300 million, which is due in the next few years.
7:31 PM · Jan 11, 2021
Trump's world is imploding and I am HERE for it!!!
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)You orange asshat.
Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)iluvtennis
(19,885 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)theneworiginal
(302 posts)It would have netted trump 9 figures. Now they may be worried about getting in line first for whatever cash he might have. He still has the election fraud fund, most of which he can use for whatever he wants.
Question: if he uses his fund for personal expenses, does he have to pay taxes on it beforehand? It is unearned income. If not, then why isn't everyone doing this?
Hekate
(90,914 posts)Bwahahahaha (cant catch breath) Ha ha ha omg omg omg SCHADENFREUDE!
fierywoman
(7,699 posts)Hekate
(90,914 posts)captain queeg
(10,274 posts)ShazzieB
(16,577 posts)TeamPooka
(24,273 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,665 posts)Ive lost count
Hekate
(90,914 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Most of his bankruptcies were for businesses that he ran into the ground.
TomSlick
(11,118 posts)The prior bankruptcies were of Trump businesses.
Trump has personally guaranteed his current debts. (BTW, real billionaires do not personally guarantee business loans.) When these personally guaranteed debts are called, tRump will have to file a personal bankruptcy.
CanonRay
(14,123 posts)If he stiffs the Russians for 300 mil, he'll find himself eating a ricin cheeseburger, Secret Service detail or not.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)others?
CanonRay
(14,123 posts)More likely to cut b off your fingers one joint at a time.
niyad
(113,683 posts)disndat
(1,887 posts)for Putin?
theneworiginal
(302 posts)His business model was to stiff all the people and businesses he owed money to by going Chapter 11. He did it so often, he ruined his credit and needed to deal with shady lenders. Enter Deutsche Bank and Russian mob. The Russians cultivated this relationship for potential political capital and it paid off beyond their wildest dreams. As a Russian plant, the damage he has done to the US reputation, the serious compromises in national defense, the classified intel he and his family funnel to them, the blind eye he turns to Russia's massive transgressions--the value is incalculable.
But they will still want their money and they will hold him "hostage" for whatever else they can squeeze out of him for ever more. He is "their bitch." He knows it. They know it. And the Biden Admin knows it. He remains the biggest threat to our national security.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)He was known as such a dead beat, I'm willing to bet that even Deutsche Bank didn't want to lend to him. I can't remember if it was Qusay or Uday, but one of them made the statement a few years back that they were getting all the money they need from Russia. My fervent wish is that his man crush Vlad agreed to guarantee the loans, and I have a feeling that he's not a good person to owe money.
mdelaguna
(471 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Phoenix61
(17,023 posts)so will all his children. So much for a big divorce settlement. She should have got out when when the getting was good. Im happily anticipating businesses moving out of his buildings.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)Next time, remember -- if you're going to marry for money, it's a good idea to be sure your future spouse actually has any.
fwvinson
(488 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)She wont starve 😢
COL Mustard
(5,939 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,258 posts)42bambi
(1,753 posts)RockRaven
(15,051 posts)Does anyone know -- from a nonTrump source only, obviously?
And the same query about Merde-a-Lago?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Also, he has he name on stuff that isnt his (for a fee). The big problem non-thug lenders have is being close to the front of the repayment line, cause we know that Putin, Erdogan and the Saudis are going to get their money one way or another, so they dont have to shuffle into line.
sir pball
(4,763 posts)It is a large tower in a very premium location. Kushner's boondoggle, 666 5th Ave, sold in 2000 for $500M; I can't see Trump Tower going for much less, even factoring in the taint.
Lonestarblue
(10,120 posts)I think he bribed someone in the city to allow him to build with sprinklers. Not that I could afford an apartment there, but I would not want to spend many millions on a high-rise apartment that is a fire hazard. That would probably decrease its value, but its still worth a lot for its location.
sir pball
(4,763 posts)It's grandfathered out of the sprinkler requirement; IIRC any renovations have to include sprinkler installations but as long as you don't rip out walls, you're legally in the clear. It doesn't make a sale impossible but it definitely hurts the resale value; I'd be deeply pleased if DB used that rationale to offer to settle for the whole building. $50m or so in work and they've got a billion-dollar asset on their hands
malaise
(269,237 posts)If I were Donald Trump here's what I'd do tonight
https://soundcloud.com/the-gitmos/jump-motherfucker
spanone
(135,911 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)c-rational
(2,597 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)MyMission
(1,854 posts)I wouldn't put it past him or his family.
They've been bilking money from supporters as an income source. All that merchandise, multiple requests for donations daily for "legal expenses" is like a GoFundMe page. But an actual one to cover his debts would be just the sleazy thing they'd do; then he'd launder the donations and declare bankruptcy anyway. Note: they and he refer to 45 and his family, who would advise him.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)MyMission
(1,854 posts)That thought made me smile! He files lawsuits for everything.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Botany
(70,622 posts)Trump currently owes Deutsche Bank more than $300 million, which is due in the next few years.
And he owes China and Saudi Arabia about $700 million too.
This was all in the Steele Dossier (pee pee tapes)
Trump owes the Russian mob/Putin $300 million
smb
(3,476 posts)Botany
(70,622 posts).... his after office secret service.
smb
(3,476 posts)...that severely limits his ability to fleece the flock, since any attempt to raise funds for a "Trump 2024" campaign would be immediately shut down as fraudulent (since it wouldn't be an eligible candidate).
Botany
(70,622 posts)... something being legal or not. Christ the man stole money from the widows of the G.I.s
who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan with his "Trump University" scam. Trump might raise
money (until he is stopped) under a different name or title.
Although I am sure Donny right now has Kush-turd, Ivanka, Eric Prince, Roger Stone, and the
Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia looking for an off shore landing place to which he can flee to.
central scrutinizer
(11,665 posts)For his stop the steal bullshit? And counting...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)calguy
(5,344 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,733 posts)now comes the time when even the dimmest of trumpist bulbs come to realize what a freaking fraud he is.
Getcha popcorn ready.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)a few more times before they start to remotely question him.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Nevilledog
(51,237 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...now they want their money, and are afraid they won't get it?
I really don't care. Do U?
cureautismnow
(1,677 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)MontanaMama
(23,364 posts)cover this debt. Whoopsie!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)MontanaMama
(23,364 posts)But now that Stripe has pulled out of their credit/debit processing agreement with the Traitor45 campaign The fleecing will be more difficult. Maybe the rubes can donate their coffee cans full-o-pennies.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Trump will have to figure out how to collect those cans, maybe Antifa beat him to them.
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)llmart
(15,561 posts)They need to have an armed guard frisk him on the way out the door.
My most fervent wish is that the whole slam damn family is broke when we're through with them. Melania will no longer be able to get her kidneys redone every year. Skanky Vanky will end up having to wear her trashy line of cheap ass clothes.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Because that asshole is likely to take anything that is of value and is loose. I am willing to bet that he will be the first ex-President since who knows when who wont hand gifts received during his mid-administration over to the National Archives.
bdamomma
(63,941 posts)where it hurts$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
twodogsbarking
(9,859 posts)Dumb ass.
Cha
(297,877 posts)Failed Coup yet?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Would love to see him doing vaudeville rallies for the few Magats that stick with him, acting up for whatever dollars he can get and splitting town before local authorities ask for payment on security costs. I want the sheen that he has falsely nurtured if being a big success to be stripped away from him and him left with nothing but scratching for any penny that he can get his hands on - that would be the vengeance that the Universe gives all the people that he has harmed.
ffr
(22,674 posts)Debtors seem to have a nasty habit of slipping over the rails.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)58Sunliner
(4,419 posts)and the re-election campaign funds, I doubt he is worried.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)that thought they were donating to the "fight the steal" legal funds. He raked in millions on that scam.
disndat
(1,887 posts)voters gave him $1, would that be enough?
58Sunliner
(4,419 posts)MineralMan
(146,339 posts)burrowowl
(17,653 posts)They are both rather old, but some mean will proposition anyone.
soldierant
(6,940 posts)illness (and no insurance) rushes out to raise money for him, and returns many hours later with $50.25.
"My God, what cheap SOB gave you a quarter?"
"Everybody!"
sarge43
(28,946 posts)Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
MineralMan This message was self-deleted by its author.
housecat
(3,121 posts)AnyFunctioningAdult
(192 posts)Until the 20th to announce this. That way he would only have a bucket of KFC to cry into and not a suitcase full of missile codes.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,572 posts)but it will be a dry judgment. But I suspect it wouldn't be any different today, or any time in between.
Denvermosaic
(120 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,770 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,656 posts)But I would like to ask the Secret Service to please protect the Resolute desk. I do not want to see it on eBay.
catbyte
(34,501 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)He's made their lives miserable. He's broken their spirits. And now it looks like they will get nothing when he dies.
The only way I can see Ivanka and Jared restoring their reputations and ever going to a Met Ball again is for them to turn on him. While he's alive. It won't be impressive at all after he's gone.
I can imagine Eric and Tiffany doing the same. Don Jr, not so much--he may not inherit anything more than a sack of beans, but he's hoping to become the heir to his dad's cult of anger and grievance. But three out of four wouldn't be bad.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Demobrat
(9,009 posts)He doesnt have Twitter but he still has his email lists. And his cult members are still suckers.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)He will be raking in the millions from his cult for years to come.
Ligyron
(7,640 posts)Turbineguy
(37,383 posts)will sell their organs to pay off his debts.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Especially when they want their money.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,375 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)As well as any others that did in the past.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,164 posts)I got it back in 2009, but now its crystal clear.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)That was a real bad idea you had
mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....NYS will own trump tower.
I'm praying that they convert it into a homeless shelter.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)niyad
(113,683 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)and god knows how much the saudis have put in offshore accounts for him and jared in exchange for arms deals
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)to roll this loan into a new loan, with the same terms. Unconnected folks like us are not expected to understand how this works.
SQUAWK !!! WTF just happened? Deutsche Bank doesn't want my business?
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)If the senate and his cabinet won't do anything, big business is going to step up.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
niyad
(113,683 posts)Nitram
(22,922 posts)FakeNoose
(32,833 posts)smb
(3,476 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Your life is going to be going downhill ever faster, accelerating once he leaves the Office.
Couldnt happen to a more deserving human....err sub human, a man with not a trace of compassion.
And though I have my doubts I hope there really is a Hell because if so his ticket has been punched for years.
DFW
(54,462 posts)Who knows? Could be around minus 300 per cent. He probably borrowed money against his share using the same collateral five times over with five different lenders. That only works as long as not more than one lender wants to be paid back and the rest dont know about it. Having the story repeated all over the internet is not likely to be the best way to keep this story quiet. Even if its a complete fabrication, its going to make his creditors nervous, and he cant afford to have all of them nervous at the same time.
Liberty Belle
(9,538 posts)I hope. She is the craziest one in the entire Congress, and apparently a traitor too.
Lock him up.
(6,947 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,187 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)so he is probably good for it
it is what he owes putin that would worry me, bankruptcy has a different ending with him
ps
don't drink the tea
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Yeah, me neither!!!!
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Lasher
(27,641 posts)Oscarthegreat
(121 posts)The big question is whether will Vladimir Putin pay his debt.
William769
(55,148 posts)yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)Serves them right. They lent Trump money on overpriced and over leveraged real estate.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,572 posts)Fighting off insolvency on multiple fronts is way, way harder than doing it one case at a time.
Bluethroughu
(5,204 posts)Will be yanked, and he will find himself in a filthy prison cell next to his enablers...tell me I'm not dreaming.
drray23
(7,638 posts)Its not due yet. As far as I can understand from what is reported is that they dont want to do further business with him.
King_Klonopin
(1,307 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Pay up, Don.