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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:33 PM Jan 2021

Deutsche Bank cuts off Trump and wants its money!



Michael Holmes @holmescnn

@nytimes - “Deutsche Bank, which has been Trump’s primary lender for two decades, has decided not to do business with Trump or his company in the future.

“Trump currently owes Deutsche Bank more than $300 million, which is due in the next few years.”


7:31 PM · Jan 11, 2021


Trump's world is imploding and I am HERE for it!!!


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Deutsche Bank cuts off Trump and wants its money! (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2021 OP
Time to Pay the Fiddler kwolf68 Jan 2021 #1
Well now he has something to take his mind off the PGA! Maru Kitteh Jan 2021 #2
LOL. 😂🤣😂 nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #74
Well-played oswaldactedalone Jan 2021 #86
Maybe D-Bank was counting on some of that PGA cash. theneworiginal Jan 2021 #133
Bwahahahaha (catches breath) bwahahahaha (gets stitch in side) bwahahahaha (tears in eyes)... Hekate Jan 2021 #3
makes me so happy to hear you laugh like this! fierywoman Jan 2021 #13
Hasn't been much to laugh about, has there? Hekate Jan 2021 #21
Ditto captain queeg Jan 2021 #71
I thave a feeling I'm going to be getting a lot of use out of this meme.... ShazzieB Jan 2021 #104
Trump will stiff them. TeamPooka Jan 2021 #4
Bankruptcy #5? central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #19
If he declares bankruptcy it will be #7 I think Hekate Jan 2021 #28
It will be #7 total, but I don't know which personal. Blue_true Jan 2021 #58
The coming bankruptcy will be different. TomSlick Jan 2021 #29
The Russians guaranteed the loans at Deutschebank CanonRay Jan 2021 #24
Russia, as a creditor --- does this mean that they can take possession of Trump Tower NY and in2herbs Jan 2021 #64
I don't think they work that way CanonRay Jan 2021 #66
Well, I believe that they already own a fair number of the condos in that building. niyad Jan 2021 #93
money laundering disndat Jan 2021 #128
Trump essentially got elected as POTUS because of his bankruptcies. theneworiginal Jan 2021 #117
Even better. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #130
Daaaaang! mdelaguna Jan 2021 #5
Awwwww SheltieLover Jan 2021 #6
YES!!!! He's going to be one broke mo'fo and Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #7
Dear Melania... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #26
Russians are thru with him, so lots of empty space at Frump Towers. fwvinson Jan 2021 #90
Melanie is on someone's payroll. gldstwmn Jan 2021 #98
She has 50 million of her own money. secondwind Jan 2021 #105
Melania? Or Ivanka? COL Mustard Jan 2021 #113
All the more reason to 25th his ass - he's enraged & vengeful. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jan 2021 #8
Fleeing like the rats that they are. Tick-Tock. 42bambi Jan 2021 #9
Serious question: by itself, ignoring any debts or liens or whatever, what is Trump Tower worth? RockRaven Jan 2021 #10
From what I have read, he over-leverages the shit out of his properties. Blue_true Jan 2021 #51
Probably enough to pay the DB debts sir pball Jan 2021 #84
I remember reading that Trump Tower isn't up to code. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #106
It was built before sprinklers were mandated sir pball Jan 2021 #120
Oh My! malaise Jan 2021 #11
Bwahahahahahahaaa spanone Jan 2021 #22
Hi there my brother malaise Jan 2021 #36
♥️👋 spanone Jan 2021 #47
Thank you for that wonderful laugh malaise. c-rational Jan 2021 #80
3 Million rubes contributing $100 would pay off trump's tab. Hoyt Jan 2021 #12
Are you suggesting he start a GoFundMe page? MyMission Jan 2021 #72
Gofundme would tell him to F off I think. Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #82
Probably, and he'd try to sue them MyMission Jan 2021 #101
Oh, they'll sell MAGA hats or trump pistol grips or some BS. But, yeah, sleazy. Hoyt Jan 2021 #91
Deutsche Bank (Vlad Daddy/Russia) cuts off Trump and wants its money Botany Jan 2021 #14
Bankruptcy Ain't Gonna Help Him Dodge The Russian Mob nt smb Jan 2021 #111
Especially if he gets impeached for a 2nd time and then convicted because there goes ... Botany Jan 2021 #115
If He Gets Convicted And Barred From Future Federal Office... smb Jan 2021 #131
Funny even if he is out of office I don't see Trump being constrained by anything as simple as ... Botany Jan 2021 #132
Didn't he con the rubes out of $200+ million central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #15
Last I heard, $350 million plus. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #48
I see another default in his future. calguy Jan 2021 #16
OOOOOO hoo hoo hoo hoo!!!! mnmoderatedem Jan 2021 #17
I would not bet on that. My guess is he needs to stab them in the back Blue_true Jan 2021 #46
Gee, that's too bad. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #18
*stealing* Nevilledog Jan 2021 #31
After enabling him for years... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #20
This is a job for Repo Man! cureautismnow Jan 2021 #23
OK That's hilarious malaise Jan 2021 #38
200k annual pension won't MontanaMama Jan 2021 #25
Why do you think that he is fleecing Magats like all get out? nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #41
I know! MontanaMama Jan 2021 #44
... Blue_true Jan 2021 #52
Which he loses if convicted. yellowcanine Jan 2021 #123
He's got 8 days to pilfer everything he can from the White House. llmart Jan 2021 #27
Hope the staff has the china glued down and the expensive rugs nailed to the floor. Blue_true Jan 2021 #39
Get him bdamomma Jan 2021 #30
You loaned Trump money? twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #32
Is trump having fun with his Cha Jan 2021 #33
Hope he gets what he deserves. Blue_true Jan 2021 #34
T---- better hope he's not residing anywhere where there's a 4th story balcony ffr Jan 2021 #35
Great, but isn't that about the same amount of money he made off of his insurrectionist efforts? n/t AntiFascist Jan 2021 #37
Really. Between that money and the money he skimmed from the inaugural committee- 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #56
Not to mention all the money he pocketed from the fools Marie Marie Jan 2021 #87
If each of his devoted 78 milllion disndat Jan 2021 #114
Who knows. He always seems to lose his money. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #118
Time to put Melania and Ivanka back on the street. MineralMan Jan 2021 #40
Good thing I wasn't drinking anything! burrowowl Jan 2021 #68
Wouldn't that be like the woman who, learning her husband has a fatal soldierant Jan 2021 #73
IOW Vlad isn't going to back his loans anymore sarge43 Jan 2021 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Jan 2021 #43
He has nothing left to offer Putin housecat Jan 2021 #45
They really should have waited AnyFunctioningAdult Jan 2021 #49
If DB really has to wait 3 years, I have a strong feeling they will win a lawsuit, if it came to it, BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #50
The winning keeps rolling in. That's too much winning. Denvermosaic Jan 2021 #53
OMG I can't believe it! lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #54
There are so many things I could say. Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #55
He'll probably try to sell the Resolute Desk on eBay. They'd better check their luggage. catbyte Jan 2021 #57
If the kids no longer have an incentive to make nice to him, maybe they'll turn on him renate Jan 2021 #59
Translation: "Dear Liz Warren, PLEASE DON'T INVESTIGATE US!" TrollBuster9090 Jan 2021 #60
I doubt if he's worried. Demobrat Jan 2021 #61
Sadly I agree. He can make up that money easily by his cult LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #77
Not no more he don't, lol! Ligyron Jan 2021 #119
His rubes Turbineguy Jan 2021 #62
The Russian mob isn't nice. roamer65 Jan 2021 #63
Yep. Whatever he has, he should pay that mob. Screw the bank, they only have lawyers. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #109
They should never have loaned him any money in the first place Meowmee Jan 2021 #65
I finally understand why American bank robbers became folk heroes. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2021 #67
Damn, why don't I see this in Michael Holmes' Twitter feed :( Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #69
You should never have run for President Donnie stopwastingmymoney Jan 2021 #70
He's the king of bad ideas. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #79
China will be calling in their $400 million marker soon, too. And when Letitia James is finished.... George II Jan 2021 #75
When the Saudis and Turkey cut him off...only his handler, PUTIN will cover him. nt. SayItLoud Jan 2021 #76
Putin has been guaranteeing the DB money laundering. .ooops, money lending, operation. niyad Jan 2021 #94
unfortunately, he probably has some state secrets left to sell Orangepeel Jan 2021 #78
I would like to see he and his children penniless, working for minimum wage. nt Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #81
OMG.... I am imagining Shitz Creek: Trump Edition. Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #83
As Trump has explained, his debt is not a problem. It simply requires him NCjack Jan 2021 #85
How do you like your bagels now Been-A-Dick Donald njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #88
Looks like he's fucked himself hard this time. D23MIURG23 Jan 2021 #89
Daddy vlad pulled the plug? niyad Jan 2021 #92
Keep it coming! Death by a million cuts! Nitram Jan 2021 #95
Woops, there goes the kiddies' inheritances FakeNoose Jan 2021 #96
I Guess Junior & Eric & Jared Are Gonna Have To Get Jobs As Fry Cooks Or Pool Boys Or Something nt smb Jan 2021 #112
You Know The Saying About Karma colsohlibgal Jan 2021 #97
Trump's personal stake in Trump Tower at this point? DFW Jan 2021 #99
Wow. I didn't know she was told not to tweet anything - that is grounds for explusion Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #100
News-for-ya: oRange menace won't pay. Lock him up. Jan 2021 #102
He shouldn't be allowed another bankrupcy...he caused all of it himself. He deserves to suffer. SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #103
he just scooped 500 million+ from our election and other systems scarytomcat Jan 2021 #107
OMG - Did you see Trump's tweets about this? Beartracks Jan 2021 #108
Can he use his political war chest of $250M? Lasher Jan 2021 #110
How will his boss handle it? Oscarthegreat Jan 2021 #116
Good! William769 Jan 2021 #121
They will be lucky if they get 10 cents on the dollar. yellowcanine Jan 2021 #122
I hope there is a stampede of other creditors joining DB. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #124
All trumps beautiful bigly assets Bluethroughu Jan 2021 #125
I did not see anywhere reported that they are recalling the loan. drray23 Jan 2021 #126
Are those chickens I see, coming home to roost ? n/t King_Klonopin Jan 2021 #127
I laughed when I heard this. AngryOldDem Jan 2021 #129

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
133. Maybe D-Bank was counting on some of that PGA cash.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:51 PM
Jan 2021

It would have netted trump 9 figures. Now they may be worried about getting in line first for whatever cash he might have. He still has the election fraud fund, most of which he can use for whatever he wants.

Question: if he uses his fund for personal expenses, does he have to pay taxes on it beforehand? It is unearned income. If not, then why isn't everyone doing this?

Hekate

(90,914 posts)
3. Bwahahahaha (catches breath) bwahahahaha (gets stitch in side) bwahahahaha (tears in eyes)...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jan 2021

Bwahahahaha (can’t catch breath) Ha — ha — ha — omg omg omg SCHADENFREUDE!


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
58. It will be #7 total, but I don't know which personal.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jan 2021

Most of his bankruptcies were for businesses that he ran into the ground.

TomSlick

(11,118 posts)
29. The coming bankruptcy will be different.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

The prior bankruptcies were of Trump businesses.

Trump has personally guaranteed his current debts. (BTW, real billionaires do not personally guarantee business loans.) When these personally guaranteed debts are called, tRump will have to file a personal bankruptcy.

CanonRay

(14,123 posts)
24. The Russians guaranteed the loans at Deutschebank
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:46 PM
Jan 2021

If he stiffs the Russians for 300 mil, he'll find himself eating a ricin cheeseburger, Secret Service detail or not.

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
64. Russia, as a creditor --- does this mean that they can take possession of Trump Tower NY and
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:28 PM
Jan 2021

others?

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
117. Trump essentially got elected as POTUS because of his bankruptcies.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

His business model was to stiff all the people and businesses he owed money to by going Chapter 11. He did it so often, he ruined his credit and needed to deal with shady lenders. Enter Deutsche Bank and Russian mob. The Russians cultivated this relationship for potential political capital and it paid off beyond their wildest dreams. As a Russian plant, the damage he has done to the US reputation, the serious compromises in national defense, the classified intel he and his family funnel to them, the blind eye he turns to Russia's massive transgressions--the value is incalculable.

But they will still want their money and they will hold him "hostage" for whatever else they can squeeze out of him for ever more. He is "their bitch." He knows it. They know it. And the Biden Admin knows it. He remains the biggest threat to our national security.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
130. Even better.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:20 PM
Jan 2021

He was known as such a dead beat, I'm willing to bet that even Deutsche Bank didn't want to lend to him. I can't remember if it was Qusay or Uday, but one of them made the statement a few years back that they were getting all the money they need from Russia. My fervent wish is that his man crush Vlad agreed to guarantee the loans, and I have a feeling that he's not a good person to owe money.

Phoenix61

(17,023 posts)
7. YES!!!! He's going to be one broke mo'fo and
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:37 PM
Jan 2021

so will all his children. So much for a big divorce settlement. She should have got out when when the getting was good. I’m happily anticipating businesses moving out of his buildings.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
26. Dear Melania...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:46 PM
Jan 2021

Next time, remember -- if you're going to marry for money, it's a good idea to be sure your future spouse actually has any.

RockRaven

(15,051 posts)
10. Serious question: by itself, ignoring any debts or liens or whatever, what is Trump Tower worth?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:39 PM
Jan 2021

Does anyone know -- from a nonTrump source only, obviously?

And the same query about Merde-a-Lago?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. From what I have read, he over-leverages the shit out of his properties.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

Also, he has he name on stuff that isn’t his (for a fee). The big problem non-thug lenders have is being close to the front of the repayment line, cause we know that Putin, Erdogan and the Saudis are going to get their money one way or another, so they don’t have to shuffle into line.

sir pball

(4,763 posts)
84. Probably enough to pay the DB debts
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:30 PM
Jan 2021

It is a large tower in a very premium location. Kushner's boondoggle, 666 5th Ave, sold in 2000 for $500M; I can't see Trump Tower going for much less, even factoring in the taint.

Lonestarblue

(10,120 posts)
106. I remember reading that Trump Tower isn't up to code.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jan 2021

I think he bribed someone in the city to allow him to build with sprinklers. Not that I could afford an apartment there, but I would not want to spend many millions on a high-rise apartment that is a fire hazard. That would probably decrease its value, but it’s still worth a lot for its location.

sir pball

(4,763 posts)
120. It was built before sprinklers were mandated
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:23 PM
Jan 2021

It's grandfathered out of the sprinkler requirement; IIRC any renovations have to include sprinkler installations but as long as you don't rip out walls, you're legally in the clear. It doesn't make a sale impossible but it definitely hurts the resale value; I'd be deeply pleased if DB used that rationale to offer to settle for the whole building. $50m or so in work and they've got a billion-dollar asset on their hands

MyMission

(1,854 posts)
72. Are you suggesting he start a GoFundMe page?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

I wouldn't put it past him or his family.

They've been bilking money from supporters as an income source. All that merchandise, multiple requests for donations daily for "legal expenses" is like a GoFundMe page. But an actual one to cover his debts would be just the sleazy thing they'd do; then he'd launder the donations and declare bankruptcy anyway. Note: they and he refer to 45 and his family, who would advise him.

Botany

(70,622 posts)
14. Deutsche Bank (Vlad Daddy/Russia) cuts off Trump and wants its money
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jan 2021

“Trump currently owes Deutsche Bank more than $300 million, which is due in the next few years.”

And he owes China and Saudi Arabia about $700 million too.

This was all in the Steele Dossier (pee pee tapes)

Trump owes the Russian mob/Putin $300 million

Botany

(70,622 posts)
115. Especially if he gets impeached for a 2nd time and then convicted because there goes ...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

.... his after office secret service.

smb

(3,476 posts)
131. If He Gets Convicted And Barred From Future Federal Office...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jan 2021

...that severely limits his ability to fleece the flock, since any attempt to raise funds for a "Trump 2024" campaign would be immediately shut down as fraudulent (since it wouldn't be an eligible candidate).

Botany

(70,622 posts)
132. Funny even if he is out of office I don't see Trump being constrained by anything as simple as ...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:31 PM
Jan 2021

... something being legal or not. Christ the man stole money from the widows of the G.I.s
who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan with his "Trump University" scam. Trump might raise
money (until he is stopped) under a different name or title.

Although I am sure Donny right now has Kush-turd, Ivanka, Eric Prince, Roger Stone, and the
Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia looking for an off shore landing place to which he can flee to.

mnmoderatedem

(3,733 posts)
17. OOOOOO hoo hoo hoo hoo!!!!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jan 2021

now comes the time when even the dimmest of trumpist bulbs come to realize what a freaking fraud he is.

Getcha popcorn ready.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. I would not bet on that. My guess is he needs to stab them in the back
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

a few more times before they start to remotely question him.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
20. After enabling him for years...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:45 PM
Jan 2021

...now they want their money, and are afraid they won't get it?

I really don't care. Do U?

MontanaMama

(23,364 posts)
44. I know!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

But now that Stripe has pulled out of their credit/debit processing agreement with the Traitor45 campaign… The fleecing will be more difficult. Maybe the rubes can donate their coffee cans full-o-pennies.

llmart

(15,561 posts)
27. He's got 8 days to pilfer everything he can from the White House.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

They need to have an armed guard frisk him on the way out the door.

My most fervent wish is that the whole slam damn family is broke when we're through with them. Melania will no longer be able to get her kidneys redone every year. Skanky Vanky will end up having to wear her trashy line of cheap ass clothes.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. Hope the staff has the china glued down and the expensive rugs nailed to the floor.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

Because that asshole is likely to take anything that is of value and is loose. I am willing to bet that he will be the first ex-President since who knows when who won’t hand gifts received during his mid-administration over to the National Archives.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
30. Get him
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:48 PM
Jan 2021

where it hurts$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Hope he gets what he deserves.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

Would love to see him doing vaudeville rallies for the few Magats that stick with him, acting up for whatever dollars he can get and splitting town before local authorities ask for payment on security costs. I want the sheen that he has falsely nurtured if being a big success to be stripped away from him and him left with nothing but scratching for any penny that he can get his hands on - that would be the vengeance that the Universe gives all the people that he has harmed.

ffr

(22,674 posts)
35. T---- better hope he's not residing anywhere where there's a 4th story balcony
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:52 PM
Jan 2021

Debtors seem to have a nasty habit of slipping over the rails.

58Sunliner

(4,419 posts)
56. Really. Between that money and the money he skimmed from the inaugural committee-
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jan 2021

and the re-election campaign funds, I doubt he is worried.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
87. Not to mention all the money he pocketed from the fools
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

that thought they were donating to the "fight the steal" legal funds. He raked in millions on that scam.

burrowowl

(17,653 posts)
68. Good thing I wasn't drinking anything!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jan 2021

They are both rather old, but some mean will proposition anyone.

soldierant

(6,940 posts)
73. Wouldn't that be like the woman who, learning her husband has a fatal
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

illness (and no insurance) rushes out to raise money for him, and returns many hours later with $50.25.

"My God, what cheap SOB gave you a quarter?"

"Everybody!"

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

49. They really should have waited
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jan 2021

Until the 20th to announce this. That way he would only have a bucket of KFC to cry into and not a suitcase full of missile codes.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
50. If DB really has to wait 3 years, I have a strong feeling they will win a lawsuit, if it came to it,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jan 2021

but it will be a dry judgment. But I suspect it wouldn't be any different today, or any time in between.

Dem2theMax

(9,656 posts)
55. There are so many things I could say.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jan 2021


But I would like to ask the Secret Service to please protect the Resolute desk. I do not want to see it on eBay.

renate

(13,776 posts)
59. If the kids no longer have an incentive to make nice to him, maybe they'll turn on him
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jan 2021

He's made their lives miserable. He's broken their spirits. And now it looks like they will get nothing when he dies.

The only way I can see Ivanka and Jared restoring their reputations and ever going to a Met Ball again is for them to turn on him. While he's alive. It won't be impressive at all after he's gone.

I can imagine Eric and Tiffany doing the same. Don Jr, not so much--he may not inherit anything more than a sack of beans, but he's hoping to become the heir to his dad's cult of anger and grievance. But three out of four wouldn't be bad.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
60. Translation: "Dear Liz Warren, PLEASE DON'T INVESTIGATE US!"
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jan 2021
This is the equivalent of a man throwing a steak on the ground as he's being chased by a tiger. Best case scenario, she eats the steak, is satisfied with Trump being humiliated by having to declare bankruptcy again, and lets them go. Worst case scenario, the tiger investigates who loaned him all that money, and WHY, causing ten executives at Deutschebank to go to the wiseguy's prison WITH Trump.

Demobrat

(9,009 posts)
61. I doubt if he's worried.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jan 2021

He doesn’t have Twitter but he still has his email lists. And his cult members are still suckers.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
77. Sadly I agree. He can make up that money easily by his cult
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:18 PM
Jan 2021

He will be raking in the millions from his cult for years to come.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
65. They should never have loaned him any money in the first place
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jan 2021

As well as any others that did in the past.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,164 posts)
67. I finally understand why American bank robbers became folk heroes.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jan 2021

I got it back in 2009, but now its crystal clear.

George II

(67,782 posts)
75. China will be calling in their $400 million marker soon, too. And when Letitia James is finished....
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jan 2021

....NYS will own trump tower.

I'm praying that they convert it into a homeless shelter.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
78. unfortunately, he probably has some state secrets left to sell
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:21 PM
Jan 2021

and god knows how much the saudis have put in offshore accounts for him and jared in exchange for arms deals

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
85. As Trump has explained, his debt is not a problem. It simply requires him
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jan 2021

to roll this loan into a new loan, with the same terms. Unconnected folks like us are not expected to understand how this works.

SQUAWK !!! WTF just happened? Deutsche Bank doesn't want my business?

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
89. Looks like he's fucked himself hard this time.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:32 PM
Jan 2021

If the senate and his cabinet won't do anything, big business is going to step up.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

smb

(3,476 posts)
112. I Guess Junior & Eric & Jared Are Gonna Have To Get Jobs As Fry Cooks Or Pool Boys Or Something nt
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jan 2021

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
97. You Know The Saying About Karma
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:19 AM
Jan 2021

Your life is going to be going downhill ever faster, accelerating once he leaves the Office.

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving human....err sub human, a man with not a trace of compassion.

And though I have my doubts I hope there really is a Hell because if so his ticket has been punched for years.

DFW

(54,462 posts)
99. Trump's personal stake in Trump Tower at this point?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:36 AM
Jan 2021

Who knows? Could be around minus 300 per cent. He probably borrowed money against his share using the same collateral five times over with five different lenders. That only works as long as not more than one lender wants to be paid back and the rest don‘t know about it. Having the story repeated all over the internet is not likely to be the best way to keep this story quiet. Even if it‘s a complete fabrication, it‘s going to make his creditors nervous, and he can‘t afford to have all of them nervous at the same time.

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
100. Wow. I didn't know she was told not to tweet anything - that is grounds for explusion
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:14 AM
Jan 2021

I hope. She is the craziest one in the entire Congress, and apparently a traitor too.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
107. he just scooped 500 million+ from our election and other systems
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:13 AM
Jan 2021

so he is probably good for it
it is what he owes putin that would worry me, bankruptcy has a different ending with him
ps
don't drink the tea

yellowcanine

(35,703 posts)
122. They will be lucky if they get 10 cents on the dollar.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jan 2021

Serves them right. They lent Trump money on overpriced and over leveraged real estate.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
124. I hope there is a stampede of other creditors joining DB.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jan 2021

Fighting off insolvency on multiple fronts is way, way harder than doing it one case at a time.

Bluethroughu

(5,204 posts)
125. All trumps beautiful bigly assets
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jan 2021

Will be yanked, and he will find himself in a filthy prison cell next to his enablers...tell me I'm not dreaming.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
126. I did not see anywhere reported that they are recalling the loan.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

Its not due yet. As far as I can understand from what is reported is that they dont want to do further business with him.

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