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[Earth-shine]

1. Can't she just make music like her fans want?

She ain't John Lennon.

[speak easy]

23. I was talking about her silence on Abortion and Civil Rights,

not her music. She has said nothing.

[Stuckinthebush]

26. Taylor Swift on abortion:

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[Stuckinthebush]

27. Taylor Swift on LGBTQ Rights:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/06/06/taylor-swift-pride-message-anti-lgbtq-law-calls-out-eras-tour/70292421007/

[Stuckinthebush]

28. Regarding Taylor Swift and anti-racism:

Link to tweet

?s=20

[usedtobedemgurl]

37. Um, she has not been silent....

And you were talking about her music. You said how the songs were about breakups. You brought up the music and you did talk about it.

She has said a lot and even put her career on the line to speak out. Maybe Google and see?

[Earth-shine]

45. Who are you to require this of her?

Why should she be the spokesperson for your values?

I probably share your values on these topics, but I don't expect a pop star to be singled out to represent me.

[speak easy]

53. a citizen

[Earth-shine]

59. A citizen who looks to a pop star for leadership.

C'mon. Stop already.

Other people on this thread have already shown you she has taken activist actions, much more than I would ask of her.

I'm going to stop answering you now, because I think it is encouraging you to be silly.

[speak easy]

60. a citizen looking for allies

[betsuni]

2. She's an entertainer, not elected official or activist. How does anyone know everything she does that

isn't publicized? No superheroes or superleaders or magical celebrities will save Americans, that's on them.

[BlueTsunami2018]

4. Yes, because she's always been known for her deep poltical protest songs.

How dare she sell out like this after her “Putin is a douchebag” and “Peace in the Middle East” concept albums?

What happened to you Taylor? 🙄

[speak easy]

24. She is known for her silence as the country goes to hell.

[BlueTsunami2018]

41. That's not what she does.

She’s not Rage Against the Machine.

She’ll endorse the President and she gets her fans to register to vote. That’s not being silent.

[we can do it]

46. WTAF

[Stuckinthebush]

51. See above posts 26, 27 and 28

She isn't silent by a long shot.

[emulatorloo]

52. Yeah she's not "silent" at all. OP is uninformed, thanks for the hard evidence.

[Ohio Joe]

5. OMG! Doing what she does!

[elocs]

6. Taylor Swift...the singer/songwriter that the Left seems to hate.

But how we love when she encourages her followers to get out and vote for our side.
I'm betting there's nobody here who has done a fraction of the political activism that she has done but how so many love to sit in judgment of her. Frankly, that makes me sick.

[speak easy]

25. Few people would call me Left.

Very few.

[Earth-shine]

47. Well, I can't say you are "right" on the topic of Ms. Swift, either.

[speak easy]

48. My fantasy was she would say / compose something political.

Too much to ask? That is her choice.

[emulatorloo]

50. " Taylor Swift Celebrates LGBT Pride on New Song 'You Need to Calm Down'

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-you-need-to-calm-down-new-single-glaad-847898/

Taylor Swift Celebrates LGBT Pride on New Song ‘You Need to Calm Down’
"'Cause shade never made anybody less gay," singer-songwriter sings, showing further support for LGBTQ rights

BY BRITTANY SPANOS

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You really have no clue what you are talking about. Happily several DU’ers are provided you links to Swift's stances on Abortion, civil rights and so on to educate you.

Maybe you should consider self-deleting this ill-informed thread.

[Earth-shine]

55. I'm sure many a man has fantasies about her.

I'm glad you understand that what you ask of her is merely a product of your own mind.

[speak easy]

57. yes we do

And I have learned IRL not to tell a woman what to do. Mansplaining does not cut it.

[Rebl2]

34. Maga

seem to hate her more.

[usedtobedemgurl]

35. Love her music.

Went to a concert. I would definitely go again.

[MistakenLamb]

7. give me a fucking break 😂

[John Shaft]

8. cringe

ewwww!

[edisdead]

9. My barista this morning failed to advance my political agenda

I am so let down.

[DFW]

10. I'm beginning to feel like a Mozart fan during Beatlemania

Something is happening out there, and I‘m not in on the party.

[Swede]

11. So what? Her politics are crystal clear in her deeds.

A good person, doing good things.

[Buns_of_Fire]

12. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. lol jesus christ

[Nittersing]

14. Sorry speak easy. I think you missed the boat on this one.

When entertainers *DO* express political views they often get called out...

I don't really follow her (outside the headlines) but I think the love/breakup songs are pretty much her brand.

[jxla]

15. Another collection of love / breakup songs?

Silly Love Songs

You'd think that people would've had enough of silly love songs
But I look around me and I see it isn't so
Some people want to fill the world with silly love songs
And what's wrong with that?
I'd like to know

[musette_sf]

17. Not a fan of TayTay's music but yeah

they’re good enough for Macca, they’re good enough for her too. We all need silly love songs.

[MineralMan]

16. None of my business.

Let her sing what she wants.

[Patton French]

18. LOL

It’s simply

That a whole lot of people enjoy listening to.

[Maru Kitteh]

19. How dare she not carry your water and fetch your sandwich.

Jesus fucking Crisco.

[sarisataka]

20. Just shake it off

None of her peers, or more accurately near peers, are putting out deep political songs either.

Ms Swift however does use her popularity to encourage her fans to be aware and active politically. That is more than most others do.

There is no need to have bad blood

[xmas74]

21. She's a big supporter of reproductive rights

And has donated plenty over the years. She's pays her employees very well, donates to food pantries in every city she's in and voices public support of candidates. She believes in voting rights and encourages people to vote.

She's found her niche is in music many identify with. Do you criticize Stephen King for writing yet another horror novel instead of a book about (your subject here)? Did you criticize Drake or The Weeknd or Coldplay, all in the top 20 touring acts of last year, for not being political enough?

Just stop.

[Rebl2]

36. Agreed

[joshcryer]

22. The funny part is the album called her fans "vipers" for being against her racist bf at the time...

...and then she drops another 15 songs in the middle of the night after fans were understandably upset. Marketing genius really.

(Note the boyfriend she had at the time was so unabashedly racist that I dare not post it here, but he has a kink for interracial degradation stuff and said some really bad shit about it.)

[Sympthsical]

58. Those lyrics actually make me like her more

So many of her fans have a completely toxic parasocial relationship with her - one she winkingly encourages and is part of the devotion to her.

"Vipers in empath's clothing" is such an amazing shot at the terminally online, entitled, and performative who think they have any say-so in strangers' lives.

Gotta go listen to that one. I mean, the boyfriend was trash. Thanks to my niece, I know more about that whole situation than I ever need to.

But "sanctimoniously performing soliloquies" - that is true confrontational art I can appreciate.

Just going to pour a coffee and go to Reddit to see the fall out of that one.

[themaguffin]

29. Stop it. Do you realize how many young women have registered to vote to thanks to her involvement?

[CincyDem]

30. Actions speak louder that words.

She may not tell her audience what to think she shows them how to act.

Her opening act in cincy…Muna, a solid up and coming quartet of non-binary rockers that the right wing would force into conversion therapy rather that celebrate.

Her tour makes a ton of money and she dumps a 100k bonus on each of her 55 semi drivers that the right wing would be trying to squeeze for another penny a mile profit.

I’m sure there are other examples and I’m sure her fans know every one of them.

I’m not a swiftee and ended up at the concert as a plus one. But…it’s clear from her stage patter and the crowd response that Swifties aren’t confused about her stand in abortion, women’s rights or politics. She just doesn’t hit them over the head with it.

[Doodley]

31. Wait until this election season. She has literally put her life at risk by being outspoken. Who here can say that?

[Croney]

32. But her emails!

[usedtobedemgurl]

33. She is allowed to make music.

She has spoken out about abortion and women’s rights. She has put herself up as a target for the extremists. Taylor has registered a lot of people to vote.

She writes what she truly knows. Does she have to do a pro choice anthem to be on the right side of things? She has done more than me. I am older and disabled. The only thing I have done is donate and tell my sons if they get a girl pregnant I will step up and fly her to a place where she can get an abortion.

I think she has done more than her fair share.

[Drum]

38. Some really fun replies in this thread.

[Jose Garcia]

39. I am eager to hear her opine on extending the child tax credit

[JonAndKatePlusABird]

42. lol

[bigtree]

40. go on

...delete this.

[we can do it]

43. Jeezus can't she make music for her fans? When is it ever enough for some people?

[Gore1FL]

44. I also can't believe that Jay-Z has not one song about micro-plastics! nt

[emulatorloo]

49. She's not "silent", and DU'ers have provide you links to her statements on Abortion and Civil Rights.

You don't know what you’re talking about.

Take the loss and self-delete.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

54. What I want to know....

...is one of those break up songs about Travis Kelce???


Nonsensically disparage beloved beautiful successful woman, hm.

[Bettie]

56. Perhaps you could write her a letter expressing your

disappointment and suggest ways she could change her art to make it more to your taste?

Sometimes, music is just music. Not everything has to be infused with politics.