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senseandsensibility

(17,164 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:38 PM Apr 26

I checked out Kristi Noem's twitter page

She has a big glossy post up there advertising her new book where she brags about killing her puppy. She's apparently added some BS about how these things happen on a farm and she's trying to troll the press and her critics about being politically incorrect.

She's disgusting of course, but like all magats she's all in on anything that makes her money and doesn't require any brains. So I think that maybe her publisher will be hearing from people. Because she is getting ratioed like nobody's business and I don't think people are going to let this go.

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I checked out Kristi Noem's twitter page (Original Post) senseandsensibility Apr 26 OP
I don't care how many people get killed in a movie but they better spare the dog...n/t SheilaAnn Apr 26 #1
Her Theme Song: Dead Puppies TheBlackAdder Apr 26 #27
Holy fuck I forgot about that song ismnotwasm Apr 27 #66
I grew up with Dr. Demento. TheBlackAdder Apr 27 #67
She's toast XanaDUer2 Apr 26 #2
Agree. She's done. 617Blue Apr 26 #19
Agreed XanaDUer2 Apr 26 #22
I don't think Dump was going to pick her anyway 617Blue Apr 26 #24
She knew their were witnesses XanaDUer2 Apr 26 #26
No, it was a goat which soldierant Apr 26 #37
The goat was giving her attitude. yardwork Apr 27 #59
Even farmers will be against her. usedtobedemgurl Apr 26 #47
Competent farmers know how to train their dogs. yardwork Apr 27 #57
I saw some XanaDUer2 Apr 27 #58
Well, there are going to be some other bloodthirsty incompetent dog owners. yardwork Apr 27 #60
She signed her political death warrant XanaDUer2 Apr 27 #61
Hope so. yardwork Apr 27 #62
She is a typical claudette Apr 26 #3
The dog didn't need to be put down Marthe48 Apr 26 #18
Agree claudette Apr 26 #29
The Puppy Slaughterer? Blue Owl Apr 26 #4
"Puppy Killer"-- lastlib Apr 26 #39
Puppy Assassin. Cha Apr 27 #53
Yeah, creepy AF N/T TexasBushwhacker Apr 26 #5
She is Governor of a population of a small city pwb Apr 26 #6
SD is hardly a huge state pops-wise, but not many 928,767 popoulation cities are considered 'small' Celerity Apr 26 #49
I grew up on a farm lapfog_1 Apr 26 #7
Ahh... senseandsensibility Apr 26 #8
Would have been nice if this was announced after she was named VP nominee... WarGamer Apr 26 #9
I agree senseandsensibility Apr 26 #10
It happened on farms when I was a kid. shrike3 Apr 26 #11
Plus this dog didn't kill any livestock senseandsensibility Apr 26 #13
The story was that the dog killed a neighbor's chickens. LauraInLA Apr 26 #14
Oh senseandsensibility Apr 26 #17
I definitely agree with you! This is a very "old-fashioned" way of dealing with animals. LauraInLA Apr 26 #23
Sounded to me like the dog was having fun in a destructive way. shrike3 Apr 26 #44
She claims it bit her too Polybius Apr 27 #50
Sounds like she thought the dog's intention was to bite. DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 27 #52
That's claudette Apr 27 #51
Killed chickens Bmoboy Apr 26 #15
It killed the neighbor's chickens. shrike3 Apr 26 #20
And now we're more civilized NanaCat Apr 26 #31
I'm hardly dog averse. But I'm pointing out this did happen on farms decades ago. shrike3 Apr 26 #43
My father was a sharecropper John Shaft Apr 26 #40
Wasn't a frequent event. Just pointing out it did happen. On our farm, in fact. shrike3 Apr 26 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author jeffreyi Apr 26 #45
She killed the dog for politics Renew Deal Apr 26 #12
Agree, but don't ignore the "eliminating things that annoy me" aspect. plimsoll Apr 26 #33
And furthermore jeffreyi Apr 26 #48
If they thought she could bring in women voters as a VP candidate, she just scotched that idea. Midnight Writer Apr 26 #16
Wait a minute, aren't the pro-life types all about adoption? tinrobot Apr 26 #21
One of the few times I've ever cried (as an adult) while reading a book was because of the death of a dog. Aristus Apr 26 #25
The stuff of nightmares senseandsensibility Apr 26 #30
The Puppy Slaughterer Blue Owl Apr 26 #28
She's trying to up do Sorry Palin - standing in front of the turkey-killing machine erronis Apr 26 #32
She's really stupid if she thinks this is a good look for her. Martin68 Apr 26 #34
the rs invented the term polliticly correct a long time agoo. hem still no reason to kill puppy. AllaN01Bear Apr 26 #35
Not mincing words might be politically incorrect EnergizedLib Apr 26 #36
She's banned from 3 reservations for racist comments Nululu Apr 26 #38
I think it's 4 now. we can do it Apr 27 #56
Not surprising Nululu Apr 27 #65
Melissa will not be happy BidenRocks Apr 26 #41
I hope she knows the best way to restore her reputation is to sign on as TSF's VP candidate 0rganism Apr 26 #46
Shot her goat MFM008 Apr 27 #54
I can't hear her name without visualizing the puppy murder. MaryMagdaline Apr 27 #55
Bragging about the kill, and claiming hatred for the animal denies any other justifications she makes. Torchlight Apr 27 #63
I am still hoping that this "person" is TFG's VP LetMyPeopleVote Apr 27 #64

XanaDUer2

(10,774 posts)
2. She's toast
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:43 PM
Apr 26

Even MAGAs love dogs. The only supporters she will get will be farmers talking about chicken-killers and the need to shoot them. She really fucked up

617Blue

(1,282 posts)
19. Agree. She's done.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:05 PM
Apr 26

Lots a maga loves dogs like any other group. Kids in cages fine, dog slaughter nope.

She miscalculated here. Guarantee next time you see her she'll have a canine companion w her.

XanaDUer2

(10,774 posts)
22. Agreed
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:07 PM
Apr 26

I know a Trump supporter who spends free time trying to find pets homes. Pretty sure she's disgusted right now.

617Blue

(1,282 posts)
24. I don't think Dump was going to pick her anyway
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:13 PM
Apr 26

But now she's got a bigger, existential problem. Lol.

XanaDUer2

(10,774 posts)
26. She knew their were witnesses
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:15 PM
Apr 26

Trump hates dogs. She wants to show she's all tough. Gun nut.

But, truly, she goner. Wrap it up. Finito. All she wrote

ETA: and she shot a goat? Was it a non-hunting , chicken killing goat?

soldierant

(6,938 posts)
37. No, it was a goat which
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:42 PM
Apr 26

was not castrated and was therefore horny and aggressive. He apparently soiled her kids clothes (boy, do feel sorry for her kids!)

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
59. The goat was giving her attitude.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:32 AM
Apr 27

So she dragged it down to a gravel pit and shot it in front of construction workers. A grisly scene. Which she is so proud of she bragged about it in her book.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,147 posts)
47. Even farmers will be against her.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:06 PM
Apr 26

In the book it says the dog got out of the truck. On her own? Really? Cause I have never seen a dog capable of opening a truck door. Me thinks she did not secure the door and the poor dog got out. That was her fault. Farmers understand the importance of penning/securing animals..

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
57. Competent farmers know how to train their dogs.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:29 AM
Apr 27

Most farmers aren't going to be impressed by her going on a temper tantrum killing spree because she is too incompetent to train her dogs. And she bragged about killing a goat because she hadn't bothered to neuter it and it was getting mean?

She sounds like a wannabe.

XanaDUer2

(10,774 posts)
58. I saw some
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:31 AM
Apr 27

Comments like that, defending her, on her X page. OTT, she's being roasted. As she should.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
60. Well, there are going to be some other bloodthirsty incompetent dog owners.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:34 AM
Apr 27

After all, they elected her governor.

claudette

(3,606 posts)
3. She is a typical
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:43 PM
Apr 26

violent magat. There are other, more compassionate ways to "put down" a dog. My question is, why put down a dog that is not dying when he could have been adopted by someone who would have loved the puppy enough to train him correctly?

I hate magats - I hate them. That dog could not defend himself against a violent magat with a gun.

Marthe48

(17,048 posts)
18. The dog didn't need to be put down
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:04 PM
Apr 26

The puppy needed to go to a home where he wasn't seen as disposable if he wasn't fitting the role. Too bad the waste of flesh wasn't background checked before she got that dog.


pwb

(11,294 posts)
6. She is Governor of a population of a small city
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:45 PM
Apr 26

in these parts. And they have two Senators? They align with the South right now but that could change real soon.

Celerity

(43,593 posts)
49. SD is hardly a huge state pops-wise, but not many 928,767 popoulation cities are considered 'small'
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:30 PM
Apr 26

maybe in China or India

you said:

She is Governor of a population of a small city


only 13 US cities have a higher population

I am using cities and not metro areas, as we are discussing one person's political control over a legally defined population

A mayor is not the leader of the entire metro area (Southeast Florida is a perfect example, huge in area and pops, but the cities themselves are nowhere near a million people each)
:

Miami 456,229
Hialeah 222,996
Fort Lauderdale 183,412
Pembroke Pines 170,472
Hollywood 152,764
Miramar 135,158



https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/south-dakota-population




New York 7,931,147
Los Angeles 3,748,640
Chicago 2,590,002
Houston 2,305,889
Phoenix 1,676,481
Philadelphia 1,533,916
San Antonio 1,506,593
San Diego 1,375,452
Dallas 1,295,447
Jacksonville 990,931
Fort Worth 989,842
Austin 983,126
San Jose 932,636


all the rest are smaller:


Charlotte 920,325
Columbus 909,676
Indianapolis (balance) 874,089
Seattle 757,992
San Francisco 746,481
Denver 708,948
Oklahoma City 706,576
Nashville 677,519
El Paso 675,872
Washington 672,738
Las Vegas 665,811
Boston 629,842
Portland 616,840
Louisville/Jefferson County (balance) 616,447
Memphis 610,944
Detroit 603,410
Albuquerque 557,161
Baltimore 556,723
Tucson 550,472
Milwaukee 550,099
Fresno 548,687
Sacramento 530,334
Mesa 519,133
Kansas City 510,411
Atlanta 498,386
Colorado Springs 492,204
Raleigh 488,854
Omaha 477,705
Miami 456,229
Virginia Beach 451,590
Long Beach 437,166
Oakland 420,233
Minneapolis 419,508
Bakersfield 416,113
Tulsa 410,131
Tampa 408,438
Aurora 400,325
Arlington 394,992
Wichita 394,381
New Orleans 356,280
Cleveland 351,397
Henderson 343,791
Anaheim 341,817
Honolulu 338,455
Riverside 326,059
Orlando 324,429
Stockton 322,615
Irvine 318,396
Lexington 318,081
Corpus Christi 314,431
Cincinnati 309,452
Santa Ana 306,457
Greensboro 305,314
Pittsburgh 303,034
Newark 300,075
North Las Vegas 299,895
Durham 299,494
St. Paul 295,222


and some other big names

Buffalo 275,352
St. Louis 272,673
St. Petersburg 263,515
Boise 237,250
Salt Lake City 208,656
Des Moines 208,254
Fort Lauderdale 183,412

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
7. I grew up on a farm
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:50 PM
Apr 26

we had a quite a few dogs, including one that he used for hunting birds.

That dog lost her leg in an accident. And she retired from hunting... and got the privilege of coming inside to lay by the fire and live in the house when she wanted... and lived the rest of her life as a beloved pet.

senseandsensibility

(17,164 posts)
10. I agree
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:53 PM
Apr 26

and it just shows how tone deaf and really antisocial this person is that she thought releasing this before the nominee was picked would increase her chances!

shrike3

(3,816 posts)
11. It happened on farms when I was a kid.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:54 PM
Apr 26

If your dog killed livestock of any kind, you shot it. But that was decades ago, and times have changed. Simply no one is going to be cool with the practice. Putting it in a book is the act of an idiot.

senseandsensibility

(17,164 posts)
17. Oh
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:02 PM
Apr 26

Well, I got the impression that she killed it because it couldn't be trained, which just means she probably sucks as a trainer as Rick Wilson said. Still, she could have found a home for it.

LauraInLA

(428 posts)
23. I definitely agree with you! This is a very "old-fashioned" way of dealing with animals.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:08 PM
Apr 26

I can’t believe there wasn’t a shelter or animal organization that could have found the puppy a safe home.

shrike3

(3,816 posts)
44. Sounded to me like the dog was having fun in a destructive way.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 10:22 PM
Apr 26

The dogs on my relative's farm come home with baby rabbits. It's not nice, but there are dog breeds with strong prey drive. The right person could have gotten it some training and a more suitable home.

Polybius

(15,510 posts)
50. She claims it bit her too
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 01:30 AM
Apr 27
She added, a tale of it attacking a neighbor's chicken while "the picture of pure joy," then recalled, “[She] whipped around to bite me."

claudette

(3,606 posts)
51. That's
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:17 AM
Apr 27

what some dogs do sometimes. My neighbor had a German Shepherd that killed birds 🦅 whenever he could. Send the dog away to be adopted but don’t shoot it for gawd’s sake !

Bmoboy

(275 posts)
15. Killed chickens
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:59 PM
Apr 26

In a larger excerpt the dog was reported to have killed several chickens in quick succession.

Still could have been someone's pet, just not around chickens.

shrike3

(3,816 posts)
20. It killed the neighbor's chickens.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:06 PM
Apr 26

I can remember when a dog killed some of our sheep. We recognized the dog; my father called the owner, and he shot the dog. I think I should make one distinction: farm dogs back then were not always pets. They were supposed to protect livestock, keep fox and other predators away. In short, they had a job. A dog who killed another farmer's sheep was obviously not doing its job. Also, such dogs weren't treated as pets and might, MIGHT have been difficult to rehome. Kind of like a rural version of a junkyard dog.

I'm not excusing what she did. Times have changed, thinking is different. Also, Noem's dog sounded like an untrained puppy who was having fun in a destructive way. That's on her. It sounded like a candidate for rehoming to me. Instead, she took the easy way out and even seems proud of what she did. See how down to earth I am. Liberals just don't get it. (sarcasm)

On our farm, we had a husky who killed anything unfortunate enough to get within reach. They have a hell of a prey drive. Dad loved that dog and found a new home for it. He couldn't stand us kids crying every time it killed kittens.

NanaCat

(1,330 posts)
31. And now we're more civilized
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:06 PM
Apr 26

It was a young dog, and clearly not trained properly about how to treat birds. And I know well-trained hunting dogs, thanks to a grandfather who was never without one until he became too sick to hunt anymore. Not one of his dogs ever attacked a chicken--and they had ample opportunity to do so from the coop on his property.

Are some dogs irredeemable bird-munchers? Undoubtedly. But these days, rater than murdering them, you remove them to an environment where they don't get the opportunity to attack birds. Like a home with a bunch of school-age youngsters. Then they're too busy to care about munching on birds.

That's why the 'humane societies' exist: To treat dogs humanely as the first resort, rather than murdering them at will for not meeting the expectations of incompetent dog owners.

I can't believe some as dog-averse as I am must explain this concept.

shrike3

(3,816 posts)
43. I'm hardly dog averse. But I'm pointing out this did happen on farms decades ago.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 10:18 PM
Apr 26

When I was a child. You know what was a real problem? People dumping their dogs in the country. It was a real problem. "Let's dump Fido in the country and he can go live on a farm." These dogs occasionally formed packs, attacked livestock, like sheep, and sometimes local farm dogs would join in. Tragic situation. Things have changed, thankfully, and now dumping can earn you criminal charges in some parts.

shrike3

(3,816 posts)
42. Wasn't a frequent event. Just pointing out it did happen. On our farm, in fact.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 10:13 PM
Apr 26

One of the neighbor's dogs killed some of our sheep. We recognized the dog. Dad called his owner, and he shot the dog. Dogs on some farms were like junkyard dogs. Not so much pets but protectors. Protect from foxes and other varmints. And wild dogs. I don't know how it was where you lived, but people were always dumping pets in the country. They formed packs, and sometimes farm dogs would join in, instead of driving them away. Tragic situation. Obviously, things have changed.

Response to shrike3 (Reply #11)

plimsoll

(1,671 posts)
33. Agree, but don't ignore the "eliminating things that annoy me" aspect.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:13 PM
Apr 26

She said "hated that dog." So the natural answer is to kill it. Agree or disagree, there may even be compassionate reasons to euthanize a dog this way. But this wasn't about the rational reasons you might have to euthanize an animal. This was about enacting violence on something that annoyed you.

jeffreyi

(1,945 posts)
48. And furthermore
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:08 PM
Apr 26

The dog's behavior is not the dog's fault. It's on the human. Blaming the dog for your own lack of skill and knowledge is lazy and irresponsible.

Midnight Writer

(21,819 posts)
16. If they thought she could bring in women voters as a VP candidate, she just scotched that idea.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:01 PM
Apr 26

She's rabidly anti-women's healthcare, she plays up to TFG like a strumpet, and she kills puppies that are too playful for her to train?

Nothing alienates voters like killing puppies.

She should have consulted with David Pecker. He could have told her the best thing to do with this story is kill it and hope no one finds out.

tinrobot

(10,926 posts)
21. Wait a minute, aren't the pro-life types all about adoption?
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:07 PM
Apr 26

Couldn't she have at least tried to find the pup a new home?

I guess shooting it in the head took less time.

Aristus

(66,478 posts)
25. One of the few times I've ever cried (as an adult) while reading a book was because of the death of a dog.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:13 PM
Apr 26

Early in Stephen King's novel "The Dead Zone", the book's antagonist kicks a farm dog to death in a fury. Just before the dog dies, it licks the boot that killed it in a gesture of final submission. When I read that, I put the book down and cried for probably an hour. My heart was broken.

I don't read the self-serving books of Republican douchebags; I don't care how good the ghost-writer is. And I'm not going to read about dog murderers anymore. I don't have the strength.

erronis

(15,382 posts)
32. She's trying to up do Sorry Palin - standing in front of the turkey-killing machine
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:06 PM
Apr 26

Or was that Sorry Huckabee? Can't keep all these Sorry (r)epuglicon females(?) straight.

Where's that Bobbert "lady" recently? She likes being the most obnoxious - after that mtg character.

Martin68

(22,913 posts)
34. She's really stupid if she thinks this is a good look for her.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:23 PM
Apr 26

She will be known henceforth as "the puppy killer." She deserves all the friends that will earn her.

EnergizedLib

(1,901 posts)
36. Not mincing words might be politically incorrect
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 09:35 PM
Apr 26

Killing an innocent, defenseless puppy who isn’t terminally I’ll isn’t that. It’s evil.

Torchlight

(3,374 posts)
63. Bragging about the kill, and claiming hatred for the animal denies any other justifications she makes.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 11:00 AM
Apr 27

The killing was motivated by pride, anger, and convenience. The rest is just cover she creates to hide this incredibly huge character flaw. And she seems quasi-successful in fooling exactly the people she needs to fool for their second-line defense and indirect support.

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