All of these protests are a result of Trump setting a bad example.

[pwb]

IMO.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. All have seen the consequences and jail sentences so it's not like they don't know better.

[Scrivener7]

2. How do you explain all the protests that took place before him, then?

And by "all these protests" do you include BLM? The Women's March?

[marble falls]

3. I support all student actions to end war.

[Scrivener7]

11. .

[Best_man23]

4. As someone said on Morning JoeScumbag this morning

TSF has succeeded in making the use of political violence acceptable in America. Same person said that unfortunately, it will likely take decades for that view to dissipate.

[snowybirdie]

6. I heard that too

and disagreed. In the 60s, protests were everywhere. Once the war ended, they stopped and we didn't see anything of that magnitude. It was quick. No reason to protest any longer. And the protesting kids became the greed is good folks of the 80s.

[Ms. Toad]

8. There is a difference between

Protests which utilize violence as an acceptable tool, and protests which predominantly reject it (and actively train their own peacekeepers to ensure the isolated few who believe otherwise stay in line).

I participated in many of those protests, and anyone who broke a window to enter a building would have been dealt with internally or shut out. And this protester (and others I know personally) did not become a greed is good person of the 80s).

[Scrivener7]

12. But there were occasionally people who broke a window or entered a building.

The action taken at Hamilton Hall has been reported with enormous amounts of hyperbole. It looks as if they broke a window and moved furniture. Then they surrendered peacefully. I don't agree with what they did, but the reports of "destruction of the campus" and "looks just like January 6" are absurd to the point of nauseating.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/columbias-hamilton-hall-takeover-photos-from-inside.html

I did my graduate degree at Columbia. You want to see a REAL mess? Head on up to the campus the day after Halloween falls on a weekend.

[former9thward]

23. Ahh no.

Political violence has been around since the beginning of the country. Look at the 1968 Democratic convention. For that matter look at the 1968 Columbia student strike. They occupied the exact same Hamilton Hall as the current protest did.



In terms of polical violence there was nothing more violent than the late 60s.

There were 4330 bombings in a 16 month period.

The hearing, part of an investigated led Senator John L. McClellan, Democrat of Arkansas, concluded that from January 1969 to April 1970, the United States sustained 4,330 bombings — 3,355 of them incendiary, 975 explosive — resulting in 43 deaths and $21.8 million in property damage.

https://archive.nytimes.com/cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/1969-a-year-of-bombings/#:~:text=The%20hearing%2C%20part%20of%20an%20investigated%20led%20Senator,43%20deaths%20and%20%2421.8%20million%20in%20property%20damage.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

5. And also the Baby Boomers.

Them and their stupid protests against the Viet Nam war in the 60s was fucking ridiculous.

[marble falls]

14. What a load of catwallop. You supported the war? I know a lot of Republicans sure did.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

15. Didn't think I'd need the sarcasm tag, but usually proven I do.

I marvel at the Baby Boomers not being sympathetic to anti-war protests.

And before you get all "young whippersnapper" on me, I'm Gen X by only a year and a half. I'm about as old as you can be and not be a Baby Boomer.

[marble falls]

16. I get tired of the boomer bashing here. I see nothing in your post that demonstrates sarcasm ...

"I marvel at the Baby Boomers not being sympathetic to anti-war protests." - Is this sarcasm or your anti-boomer bias sneaking in?

I am in shock of the support Gen X gives to TFG.

https://www.politico.com › news › 2024 › 04 › 07 › voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923
Polls show young voters going for Trump and older voters backing Biden ...
Apr 7, 2024The Split Ticket poll shows both Biden (68 percent) and Trump (70 percent) are viewed unfavorably by more than two-thirds of young voters — but, notably, Trump's "very unfavorable" figure ...

https://www.politico.com › news › magazine › 2022 › 05 › 20 › cherie-westrich-alt-rock-gen-x-maga-00033769
How Gen X Became the Trumpiest Generation - POLITICO
May 20, 2022Her journey to supporting Trump was also a typical one for Gen Xers, As Anderson explained Trump in particular had an effect polarizing politics along generational lines. ... Gen X is full of ...

[Cuthbert Allgood]

17. So your answer is to just shit on the Gen Xers.

Guess what. I got that since birth. I'm used to it. It's what defined us. We feed on it.

And if you couldn't read the sarcasm in "I marvel at the Baby Boomers...," then that's all on you.

Look at the numbers for the 2020 election. We barely went Biden, but we went Biden. Boomers were overwhelmingly Trump.

But, to the point, why aren't the Baby Boomers more aware of what the anti-war protesters are doing?

[marble falls]

19. Not at all. Stop shitting on boomers. We risked lives, education, professional careers, arrest and prison ...

... to end the war in Viet Nam. I support all antiwar protestors on campus right now. If I weren't over 70, just getting back after a 12 year fight with cancer, I'd be there, too. I honestly do not give a shit what gen anyone is. Fight the power, not each other. When we fight, they win.

[GenThePerservering]

31. I got your sarcasm right way

seemed pretty obvious in context.

[David__77]

7. 1963 March on Washington.

Lots of demonstrations have occurred in this country.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. lol jesus christ

[róisín_dubh]

33. This place has lost its mind...

I swear 🙄

[Jirel]

10. Dear gods - never taken an interest in current events or history?

Boston Tea Party.
The long history of union struggles.
Women’s sufferage.
The long and bloody civil rights fight.
The Vietnam anti-war protests.
Years of anti-RNC protests.
The Occupy movement.

On and on, through the entire history of our country, change has been forced by direct action. That’s not even to mention the long and colorful history in other nations.

Nobody protesting against Israel’s destruction of Gazans and Gaza gives one damn about Mango Mussolini’s failed coup as an example. They are drawing from a rich history of direct action, including such campus movements as the South Africa anti-apartheid divestment protests decades ago.

[David__77]

13. Good summary. Bosses raged against picket lines and organized attacks against them.

[Big Blue Marble]

35. Thank you!

You said it all. Apparently, it can't be said enough.

[sarisataka]

18. He is probably also responsible

For the burning of the library at Alexandria


I feel sorry for people who have a head-tenant not paying rent

[pwb]

20. So you defend Trumps example?

You assume too much from a one sentence post. You don't know me at all.

[sarisataka]

21. No, i don't give him that much credit

To be the motivation behind everything happening in the world. He is neither an evil mastermind nor a charismatic demigod

[pwb]

22. I was specific

that the post was about current protests.

[former9thward]

24. Trump did not create current protests.

Hamas did.

[pwb]

25. I said that trump sets a bad example.

It figures that you disagree.

[former9thward]

28. Oh, I think Hamas sets a far worse example.

I don't know what your comment means. Maybe spell it out?

[pwb]

29. Hamas eh counselor? Since you brought it up.

You are reading way too much into a single sentence. I never mentioned any cause or action, just that trump set a bad example that we all saw with our own eyes, just like we saw with our own eyes about Vietnam on t v and we saw with our own eyes how Hamas attacked the concert and we see with our eyes the destruction of Gazza. I don't see any right in any of it..

[elleng]

26. Much more than that.

[Ocelot II]

27. No, they aren't.

Either you weren't around during the Vietnam protests or you don't remember them. Most were peaceful but a few were not, like the Sterling Hall bombing at the U of WIsconsin.

[pwb]

30. I was in Cambodia.

I read about Kent State in The Stars And Stripes. Amazing how thoughts can fail us at times.

[GenThePerservering]

32. I was a kid

but remember student protests busting places up and there were clashes in the streets - I would just stare at it on our little black and white TV, but the images stuck. Particularly the smoke bombs.

[róisín_dubh]

34. JFC, I think you should read...

A lot more history.
And if US history bores you, try French history.

[womanofthehills]

36. No - kids don't want to see burnt, limbless & dead babies on their phones everyday

Our American students see a genocide in real time every day - for over 200 days now. They have probably seen 500 dead babies or more on their phones now.

Go over on TicToc and see a burnt dying Gazan baby and look at the kids comments - often thousands of kids comments on how they wish they could take care of the baby, adopt the baby, love the baby etc.

[PufPuf23]

37. Among the stupidest posts ever read at DU. nt

[womanofthehills]

38. It's Israel - Israel just said if ICC gets involved, we will commit more war crimes

“NEW: Israeli warned the Biden administration that if the International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants against Israeli leaders, it will take retaliatory steps against the Palestinian Authority that could lead to its collapse. My story on @axios
https://x.com/briebriejoy/status/1785736648245878897?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ