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sarisataka

(19,486 posts)
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:06 PM May 21

Egypt changed terms of Gaza ceasefire deal presented to Hamas, surprising negotiators, sources say

Egypt changed terms of Gaza ceasefire deal presented to Hamas, surprising negotiators, sources say


Egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms of a ceasefire proposal that Israel had already signed off on earlier this month, ultimately scuttling a deal that could have released Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, and set a pathway to temporarily end the fighting in Gaza, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

The ceasefire agreement that Hamas ended up announcing on May 6 was not what the Qataris or the Americans believed had been submitted to Hamas for a potential final review, the sources said.

The changes made by Egyptian intelligence, the details of which have not been previously reported, led to a wave of anger and recrimination among officials from the US, Qatar and Israel, and left ceasefire talks at an impasse.

“We were all duped,” one of those sources told CNN.

CIA Director Bill Burns, who has spearheaded the American efforts to broker a ceasefire agreement, was in the region when word reached him that the Egyptians had changed the terms of the deal. Burns was angry and embarrassed, the same person said, believing it made him look like he wasn’t in the loop or hadn’t informed the Israelis of the changes.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/21/politics/sources-say-they-were-duped-by-egypt-changing-ceasefire-terms-for-hamas/index.html

It seems either Egypt is trying to sabotage efforts for a ceasefire or thought their duplicity would go unnoticed.

Now will anyone retract the condemnations made when Israel refused the "agreement" which we now have confirmation was not what they had agreed to?
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Egypt changed terms of Gaza ceasefire deal presented to Hamas, surprising negotiators, sources say (Original Post) sarisataka May 21 OP
Waiting with you JustAnotherGen May 21 #1
I did see a report how no aid is entering theough Rafah sarisataka May 21 #3
It's weird Sympthsical May 21 #4
We have been told blocking food aid is G-E-N-O-C-I-D-E sarisataka May 21 #5
That's so awful. Egypt accuses Israel of genocide because Egypt is blocking aid. LeftInTX May 21 #10
But "shockingly: so many were QUICK to Cha May 21 #13
That did happen quickly, but much like the rocket hitting the hospital sarisataka May 22 #15
Exactly. TY Cha May 22 #16
Please hold Sympthsical May 21 #2
The camera business affected the press and reporters. Igel May 21 #7
I was amused Sympthsical May 21 #8
K&R betsuni May 21 #6
And almost nothing about the 50 tunnels connecting Gaza to Egypt. LeftInTX May 21 #9
Will the pro Hamas protesters edhopper May 21 #11
The countries around Israel want nothing to do with the Palestinians. nt LexVegas May 21 #12
Can't imagine why. Cha May 21 #14

JustAnotherGen

(32,323 posts)
1. Waiting with you
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:22 PM
May 21

But don't hold your breath. Egypt rat-fucked everyone. It's on them.

It was never on Israel.

sarisataka

(19,486 posts)
3. I did see a report how no aid is entering theough Rafah
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:42 PM
May 21

Since Israel took over the Gaza side.

Conspicuously absent was that it is Egypt blocking the aid because they don't want to work with the Israelis. That was the reason Israel asked the PA to run the crossing. It's funny how we get two dozen OPs about cameras but none on what is happening with the aid.

I expect I will see a glacier in my backyard before my wait ends.

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
4. It's weird
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:49 PM
May 21

How when you put being critical of Israel and aiding Palestinians on a scale, criticizing Israel always wins.

Almost as if aid to Palestinians isn't perhaps maybe the highest priority here.

Perish the thought. Heaven forfend. God hurl a mountain from outer reaches of the universe in my direction for having such a thought.

That maybe - just maybe - the caring is - maybe! - somewhat - itty bitty - a lil bit - performative.

Maybe.

sarisataka

(19,486 posts)
5. We have been told blocking food aid is G-E-N-O-C-I-D-E
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:54 PM
May 21

Apparently it is actually G-E-N-O-C-I-D-E*

*ᵂʰᵉⁿ ᴵˢʳᵃᵉˡ ᵈᵒᵉˢ ᶦᵗ

sarisataka

(19,486 posts)
15. That did happen quickly, but much like the rocket hitting the hospital
Wed May 22, 2024, 09:59 AM
May 22

the truth is far less convenient.

We are seeing that neither getting a ceasefire nor securing the release of the hostages is much of a concern. Secondary goals at best.

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
2. Please hold
Tue May 21, 2024, 05:37 PM
May 21

People are currently obsessed about *checks* a camera.

So . . . probably want to wait until that's done before checking in on the ceasefire.

Which isn't really all that important. A ceasefire? Tch. Have you seen the camera situation? I've already cleared my schedule and have fresh pajamas in the dryer as we speak.

All hands on deck.

Igel

(35,524 posts)
7. The camera business affected the press and reporters.
Tue May 21, 2024, 08:56 PM
May 21

Who are the most important people in the world, to reporters?

Other reporters.

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
8. I was amused
Tue May 21, 2024, 09:58 PM
May 21

With important news about the ceasefire and aid, the breathless "OMG" anti-Israel story of today was . . . a camera.

Sometimes I just enjoy the lack of seriousness. Breaks things up a bit.

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