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What is your opinion of soccer (Original Post) minivan2 Jun 2014 OP
I'll alert the media pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #1
Okay. Scootaloo Jun 2014 #2
I like cheese. OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #3
Mmmmm... cheese LVdem Jun 2014 #23
Me too Prophet 451 Jun 2014 #4
I have found televised soccer Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #14
I avoid both Prophet 451 Jun 2014 #18
I have to disagree with this. alarimer Jun 2014 #45
Thanks for sharing. enlightenment Jun 2014 #5
That's nice, dear. And what did you do *for* the world today? . . . Journeyman Jun 2014 #6
Minivans? BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #7
I'd kind of like to get into it. Tired of how specialized US football Hoyt Jun 2014 #8
I miss Unrec. TDale313 Jun 2014 #9
Your original title of "I hate soccer" seems to have been modified by the response..... Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #10
Never cared for it myself until my daughter started playing competitively. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #11
American football is far more tedious. roody Jun 2014 #19
Correct. Violence interrupted by meetings. kairos12 Jun 2014 #38
Ha, an excellent description redqueen Jun 2014 #70
Really boring and stupid quinnox Jun 2014 #12
My opinion is that is a fun game to play senseandsensibility Jun 2014 #13
Make the field smaller. Earn more points per goal. Mix men and women in play. Then I'll watch. ancianita Jun 2014 #15
They do that, in a version of soccer nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #26
Sounds more fun. ancianita Jun 2014 #34
Soccer is actually the fastest growing sport in the US nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #37
Thanks for all the info. But you don't have to sell me. I've played it and my son's played AYSO, ancianita Jun 2014 #46
We will all do nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #49
Heh heh... ancianita Jun 2014 #51
It's sportsball. Iggo Jun 2014 #16
GO SPORTS! redqueen Jun 2014 #71
It is the only sport I would watch. roody Jun 2014 #17
What do you think of American Football ? musiclawyer Jun 2014 #20
Why do more than 780,000 high school students participate in soccer? Jenoch Jun 2014 #21
Slightly less boring than basketball, a lot less boring than football. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #22
I don't watch sports but I get happy for those who enjoy it. I would never harsh on Cha Jun 2014 #24
We enjoy world class soccer nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #25
I like hockey minivan2 Jun 2014 #31
Well, look at both in the light of what are the tactics and strategy nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #36
Kick! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #27
Goooooooooaaaaaaaaaal! pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #29
It's okay. I think it is great that the American's women's soccer team has done so well. The men's liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #28
Love the sport defacto7 Jun 2014 #30
Love my local MLS team. grasswire Jun 2014 #32
Watching the World Cup is like watching the Olympics. edbermac Jun 2014 #33
It's like watching hockey to me. I'm always, 'WTF? Where's the puck (or ball)?' So I don't watch it. freshwest Jun 2014 #35
I pretend to like it so I can feel more sophisticated than those clods who watch American football. Throd Jun 2014 #39
hahahah!!! pipi_k Jun 2014 #42
Win Orrex Jun 2014 #47
Grew to love soccer after watching my kids play on South Florida teams. mia Jun 2014 #40
Similar to hockey, but much, MUCH slower. Less scoring and contact. A real snooze-fest, objectively. Romulox Jun 2014 #41
Kind of like pipi_k Jun 2014 #43
My opinion is that it is a game played on an open field. MineralMan Jun 2014 #44
The only other thing besides my love life NuclearDem Jun 2014 #48
Too little scoring, too many ties. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #50
It's ok. bigwillq Jun 2014 #52
Its a hoot...but seriously.. Historic NY Jun 2014 #53
I love to watch the World Cup lunamagica Jun 2014 #54
This^^^^^ Is My Issue ProfessorGAC Jun 2014 #72
Compared to what? tularetom Jun 2014 #55
No time outs to sell beer and cars Warpy Jun 2014 #56
DU's patron Saint Carlin has declared soccer not to be a sport Orrex Jun 2014 #57
Not my thing Va Lefty Jun 2014 #58
End the diving, end the corruption. Fix The Stupid Jun 2014 #59
This minivan2 Jun 2014 #60
Perhaps you would enjoy... 3catwoman3 Jun 2014 #62
Think it's great.. Upton Jun 2014 #61
Absolutely love soccer and the World Cup is an amazing event. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #63
By the way, why remove the amazing passion that was your original post. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #66
+1 redqueen Jun 2014 #68
I'd rather watch it than awful American football, but Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #64
Not my thing...don't hate it, just not my thing Marrah_G Jun 2014 #65
Boring Baclava Jun 2014 #67
Not opinion, but fact: it's a game loved by billions of people but I don't care for it onenote Jun 2014 #69

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
14. I have found televised soccer
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jun 2014

to be a good cure for insomnia. Almost as good as televised American football

alarimer

(16,591 posts)
45. I have to disagree with this.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jun 2014

It is much faster moving than American football, certainly.

There's not a lot of scoring, which I think is what most people mean when they say it's boring.

But the match yesterday was over in 2 hours. No commercial breaks during the half, which helps a lot.

The Germany-Portugal match WAS boring, very one sided. But the US-Ghana match was nail-biting for me.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. I'd kind of like to get into it. Tired of how specialized US football
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jun 2014

has become. I mean, they have players who only come in on 3rd and long, 3rd and short, etc.

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
9. I miss Unrec.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Editing, since the OP was edited.

I don't follow it year round, but I do get into the World Cup, and I appreciate the international draw of this sport. I also have never understood the need some have to look at any particular pastime that gives other people enjoyment and a break from the stresses of everyday life and to belittle it and its fans in order to feel cooler/more superior. If it's something that causes some harm, that's one thing. A sport or form of entertainment that you just don't happen to like and are irritated others are so into? You'll be happier if ya just learn to live and let live

bluesbassman

(19,839 posts)
11. Never cared for it myself until my daughter started playing competitively.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jun 2014

Once I understood the rules and strategy involved I gained an appreciation for it. Yes, it can be tedious at times, but the thrilling moments make up for that.

senseandsensibility

(20,360 posts)
13. My opinion is that is a fun game to play
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jun 2014

but not a particularly fun game to watch. But you know what they say about opinions.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. Soccer is actually the fastest growing sport in the US
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jun 2014

there are reasons why I would not go watch an exhibition game again, and I let the management of the America know exactly why after they fumbled that one four years ago, but if we had an MLS team in San Diego, I would not have an issue with it. I would love to take an afternoon off and go watch a good soccer match.

On the other hand, you will not get me to watch or support an NFL team (will make an exception for the Bruins this year due to Michael Sam, but his story is both a sports story and a political story), or a baseball or basketball team.

And it is quite liberating to watch world class soccer and really not be behind any of the teams.

Here, some info for you as to this growth.

After Flirting With Failure, Major League Soccer Popularity Now Surging
Comment Now Follow Comments
MLS All-Star fans celebrate their 3-2 win over...
The MLS fan base has grown dramatically over the past decade. (Image credit: AFP/Getty Images via @daylife)

Clark Hunt — son of the late NFL legend and Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt — has a lot to be excited about these days. Yes, the president and partial owner has watched his Chiefs leap to their first 9-0 start in a decade after years of irrelevance. But the NFL season is long and brutal, and a variety of misfortunes could derail a Super Bowl bid and render that enthusiasm short-lived. He has more to be genuinely excited about in a different league and a different sport altogether– the other football: Major League Soccer.

The MLS Cup Playoffs are underway, and even though FC Dallas, the team he owns with his family, didn’t make the post-season, the future of the league he and his family helped build from the ground up has never been brighter.

For years it’s been the league that cried relevant. Hyped up events — from hosting the World Cup in 1994, to luring legendary British midfielder David Beckham to the L.A Galaxy in 2007, to recent international success of the men’s and women’s national teams — offered promise to finally catapult domestic soccer into national prominence, only to provide an small, incremental boosts after all the dust and fanfare settled. The lucrative television rights deals of the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL have long dwarfed that of MLS — which as recently as 2011 signed a three-year deal with NBC worth a meager $10 million per year, according to the Sports Business Journal. A decade ago, MLS was teetering on the brink of failure.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2013/11/08/after-flirting-with-failure-major-league-soccer-popularity-now-surging/

ancianita

(38,629 posts)
46. Thanks for all the info. But you don't have to sell me. I've played it and my son's played AYSO,
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jun 2014

so I've been a soccer mom. Still, unless it's live, so far it's boring.

I'm aware that it's growing fast, and of its benefits relative to football.

I also appreciate your observation about the liberating feeling of watching the world cup games with little investment, though I had fun watching the US beat Ghana. Our crowds in Chicago's Grant Park went nuts.

I'm sure I'll adapt.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. We will all do
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:49 AM
Jun 2014

I grew up in Mexico, where soccer IS big. I enjoyed watching the games with dad, have many memories. Or hearing it on the radio, or taking, true story, a small transistor radio to school during the 1974 World Cup. It was fun.

These days, we will watch the little powerful mice get trounced by Brazil. IF they manage to tie or beat Brazil, I guarantee, Mexico City will go absolutely crazee.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
20. What do you think of American Football ?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:21 PM
Jun 2014

I played. Personally I don't like it. If I said I don't like tennis or baseball yet never played and don't know the rules or history or tactics or strategy or anything else, I'd be called small minded, ignorant,
and much worse. Game set match.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
21. Why do more than 780,000 high school students participate in soccer?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jun 2014

So they don't have to watch it.

Cha

(305,481 posts)
24. I don't watch sports but I get happy for those who enjoy it. I would never harsh on
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jun 2014

their excitement.



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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. We enjoy world class soccer
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:43 AM
Jun 2014

you watch hockey? How about water polo? Either of them has similar strategy to get to goal. Unlike hockey a soccer game is not first and foremost a brawl.

minivan2

(214 posts)
31. I like hockey
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:57 AM
Jun 2014

because there are more opportunities to score a goal while in soccer half the time is spent in the middle of the field.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. Well, look at both in the light of what are the tactics and strategy
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jun 2014

sans brawls, it is essentially the same game. Though you might want to watch the far smaller cousin played in gyms. The field is 1\3 the size, and I think there are six players plus goalie, and it is a far "faster game"

Moreover, I tend to like quintessential working class games, Soccer is one, Hockey is not.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
28. It's okay. I think it is great that the American's women's soccer team has done so well. The men's
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jun 2014

team has struggled in the past. It's good to see them doing well now as well.

defacto7

(13,615 posts)
30. Love the sport
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:55 AM
Jun 2014

Hate the business. Professional soccer is probably the easiest to throw or to take a dive. Professional sports business has ruined most great sports.

I put soccer up there as one of the most healthy team sports of any. When played as a team sport with rules that are reasonably followed it's a great game in non-pro form.

But the fake shit that goes on in professional soccer is just plain idiotic.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
32. Love my local MLS team.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jun 2014

We try to get to Timbers games when we can. We have a sort of dedicated wall in a room, with team paraphernalia everywhere there.

Honestly, though, I love my Oregon Ducks football way more.

edbermac

(16,114 posts)
33. Watching the World Cup is like watching the Olympics.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:00 AM
Jun 2014

You're seeing the world's best compete. I was going crazy watching the US today. But after this tourney I really wouldn't watch it again until the next World Cup 4 years from now.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
35. It's like watching hockey to me. I'm always, 'WTF? Where's the puck (or ball)?' So I don't watch it.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jun 2014

I've known people who are really into it and it is great exercise.

Never played the sport, but I didn't care for most ball games either. Not all of us are meant for team sports, we solo sports.

The world seems to love soccer more than any other sports, just going by sheer numbers. I wish they didn't have those stampedes and riots at times. I can't imagine wanting to be at a big game.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
39. I pretend to like it so I can feel more sophisticated than those clods who watch American football.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
41. Similar to hockey, but much, MUCH slower. Less scoring and contact. A real snooze-fest, objectively.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

I would same the same of baseball--stripped of its cultural trappings, it's objectively not an interesting game.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
43. Kind of like
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

how I feel about baseball, which I don't bother with unless the Red Sox happen to be in the World Series.


Never really cared for soccer much, but the World Cup stuff is exciting, and I've been watching.


Oh, and just an aside...my main sport is American football, so it disturbs me when the playoffs for that (and baseball with the World Series) include the word "world" in the final championship games.

Conference winners and Superbowl winners get shirts and hats that proclaim them to be "world champions".

Baseball teams play in the World Series.

Where the hell do they get that stuff? What other world teams did they play to get to the finals? None, that's what.

So, while I love American football, it always sort of pisses me off that they arrogantly call themselves "World Champions".

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,560 posts)
50. Too little scoring, too many ties.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

On the other hand, basketball has too much scoring.

That's why football (the American kind, that is) and baseball are far and away my two favorite sports. There's enough scoring to keep things interesting, but not so much scoring that it's overwhelming and loses its luster.

And of the two, baseball is the greatest, just because it's so much different than any of the other sports. (No clock, different sized playing fields, head coach is a "manager" and wears the same uniform as the players, etc.) The other sports are all different variants of the same game--getting the ball/puck from one end of the perfectly rectangular field to the other. Baseball is totally unique.

But if other people love soccer--and lots of people do--that's alright with me.

Historic NY

(37,899 posts)
53. Its a hoot...but seriously..
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jun 2014

its was very popular here during the first world war. Yes, particularly among new immigrants that were working in industry. Local shipyards in the northeast had big matches sometimes down in NY city where all could come to watch. Lots of Irish, English, and Scots were working the steel along with Italians and others from Eastern Europe countries.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
54. I love to watch the World Cup
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

I find it super super exciting.

I can't believe the complaints that it is "slow" Soccer is move move, move, run all the time -unlike Football and baseball, which are really slooowwww...

There's a reason why soccer is (by FAR) the most popular sport in the world.

ProfessorGAC

(70,013 posts)
72. This^^^^^ Is My Issue
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

I'm not a soccer expert. But, i know how to watch a sporting event. You say it's move, move, move, yet yesterday i saw midfielders coming to complete stops 5 paces beyond the centerline over and over. I saw a huge number of retreats where the ball was kicked back from the the other teams half of the pitch to 30 or 40 yards backwards.

Sorry if it seems like i'm picking on you, but i've been hearing that about soccer forever and all one has to do is watch a high level game to know that it just isn't the case.
GAC

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
55. Compared to what?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jun 2014

I mean, I'd rather be having sex than watching soccer. But I'd rather be watching soccer than having a root canal.

So you see, your question as asked cannot be answered in a qualitative sense.

But since you asked, I sort of enjoy watching it. It's fast moving, strategic, and not hampered by idiotic time outs and endless commercials. A game for those who think.

Orrex

(64,132 posts)
57. DU's patron Saint Carlin has declared soccer not to be a sport
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jun 2014

Because there are dots on the ball.


If that's not definitive, I'd like to know what the hell is.

minivan2

(214 posts)
60. This
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

My number one problem with soccer is that nobody gets tackled, if somebody even pulls their arm, they get a penalty. The only people who shouldn't get hurt are children when they play soccer.

3catwoman3

(25,483 posts)
62. Perhaps you would enjoy...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

...rugby if you like to watch people getting hurt.

As to the common complaints about low scores, haven't anyone ever watched an American football game where only one or two touchdowns are scored? If a soccer goal was worth 3 points, or 5 points, or whatever, would that really make a difference to those who just don't care for the game? I doubt it. Would people still watch American football if a touchdown was only worth 1 or 2 points?

Upton

(9,709 posts)
61. Think it's great..
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

and though I enjoy the World Cup, I actually prefer club football. More specifically the EPL and Arsenal..

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
63. Absolutely love soccer and the World Cup is an amazing event.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

Such a great spectacle showcasing the best talent from around the world. It is huge for some countries.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
66. By the way, why remove the amazing passion that was your original post.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

"I hate soccer"

"World Cup is stupid, boring sport, fans are maniacs."

I absolutely loved that too. World Cup is stupid. The sport is boring. The fans are maniacs. That is great. Probably the first time I have ever been described as a maniac. Your passion is admirable.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
64. I'd rather watch it than awful American football, but
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

in reality I get bored silly after five minutes of any type of sport. I just don't have the interest or attention span to watch sports.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
65. Not my thing...don't hate it, just not my thing
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

Love Football, lacrosse, hockey.....don't care for basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, soccer.....

onenote

(44,699 posts)
69. Not opinion, but fact: it's a game loved by billions of people but I don't care for it
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jun 2014

I'm neither a better person or a worse person than those who love it and those who love it are neither better nor worse people than me.

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