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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:12 AM Feb 2021

Trump Hid 'Fraud' on Inheritance for Years, Niece Tells Judge

Source: Bloomberg News


Erik Larson 10 hrs ago

(Bloomberg) -- Donald Trump’s niece is balking at the former president’s claim that she waited too long to file her multi-million dollar fraud suit against him, saying she would have sued sooner if he hadn’t covered his tracks so well.

Mary Trump on Friday asked a judge to deny Donald Trump’s motion to dismiss the suit, which she filed in September against her uncle and his siblings, Robert Trump and Maryanne Trump Barry. She claims they conspired to skim tens of millions of dollars off her stake in the family business for decades after her father died and left them as her fiduciaries.

The suit by the daughter of Donald Trump’s late older brother, Fred Trump Jr., is one of several serious legal threats the former president faces as a private citizen. If the case in New York state court in Manhattan survives, he could be deposed under oath by the end of the year or early 2022.

The fight may hinge on New York’s statute of limitations, which is two years from the time a victim “discovered the fraud, or could with reasonable diligence have discovered it.” Donald Trump, Maryanne Trump and the estate of Robert Trump, who died in August, argue their niece could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over in other legal disputes, including a bitter court fight over the family patriarch’s 1999 will.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hid-fraud-on-inheritance-for-years-niece-tells-judge/ar-BB1e3qos?li=BBnb7Kz

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Trump Hid 'Fraud' on Inheritance for Years, Niece Tells Judge (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2021 OP
Hope it all gets a fair shakeout bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #1
In the American legal system? Good luck. apnu Feb 2021 #22
Isn't that admitting that the Trump Estate defrauded Mary Trump? no_hypocrisy Feb 2021 #2
No, arguing about legal time limitations does not constitute an admission of guilt. cstanleytech Feb 2021 #3
Legally mobeau69 Feb 2021 #5
Right. Even an innocent person could pursue a simple time limitation defense before... thesquanderer Feb 2021 #7
Hoping lady Justice working hard to prevail. riversedge Feb 2021 #4
Trump should be assumed to be twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #6
Welcome to D.U.. orangecrush Feb 2021 #8
Thank you. twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #11
She describes the suit over Fred Jr's share of the estate DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #9
+ agree. that's what I recall from the book as well. the donald, maryanne, robert, and elizabeth iluvtennis Feb 2021 #13
It seems to boil down to Mary's aunt Maryanne Trump Barry FakeNoose Feb 2021 #10
Since Maryanne Trump is a retired judge BlueIdaho Feb 2021 #12
Yes one would think so FakeNoose Feb 2021 #16
"..could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over.."? oldsoftie Feb 2021 #14
Sure sounds like it DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #17
"In Chancery" by John Galsworthy MineralMan Feb 2021 #15
There's a doctrine in the law called the discovery rule. rsdsharp Feb 2021 #18
I wish her the very best of luck LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #19
Of all the disgusting things Trump has done, this is one of the most shameful. Cheating your own Martin68 Feb 2021 #20
If Trump was ever fair or straight-dealing with anyone in his life... Dave Starsky Feb 2021 #24
K&R Blue Owl Feb 2021 #21
Some day the orange demon will face consequences. travelingwithhendoe Feb 2021 #23

apnu

(8,754 posts)
22. In the American legal system? Good luck.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:08 AM
Feb 2021

Our legal system is broken and broken intentionally to benefit the rich and powerful. Mary Trump has a gigantic mountain to climb.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
2. Isn't that admitting that the Trump Estate defrauded Mary Trump?
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:57 AM
Feb 2021

It's arguing about time limitations, not validity of the claim.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
7. Right. Even an innocent person could pursue a simple time limitation defense before...
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:26 AM
Feb 2021

...spending all the time and money necessary to defend against a more complicated underlying accusation. It's normal for anyone to look for the easy ways out before the harder ones, regardless of guilt or innocence.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
9. She describes the suit over Fred Jr's share of the estate
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:40 AM
Feb 2021

in her book. She had a lawyer, but, iirc, he was connected to her because the lawyer had also worked for Fred Sr. I can't recall all the details, but it didn't seem like she had the greatest lawyer in 1999. Then the NYT reporters approached her for a story. She ended up getting all the documents that were left from her last atty and giving them to the NYT. She's said she didn't know what was in all the boxes or understand what they showed. It was only after the NYT went through them and wrote their blockbuster story on the Trump family finances that she fully understood how she and her brother had been cheated.

iluvtennis

(19,846 posts)
13. + agree. that's what I recall from the book as well. the donald, maryanne, robert, and elizabeth
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:55 PM
Feb 2021

cheated Mary trump and her brother out of the percentage of the estate that there father (Fred Jr) would have received had he been living.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
10. It seems to boil down to Mary's aunt Maryanne Trump Barry
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 10:41 AM
Feb 2021

Mary's aunt is the last one who could testify and provide evidence that Freddy's daughter Mary (and her brother) were cheated out of their father's share of the estate. But if Auntie Maryanne were to do that, it would cost her as well as Donald because they both benefited from the fraud.

Last minute tampering of the will (before the death of father Fred) would have been witnessed by someone in the family. I'm guessing it was Auntie Maryanne and her mother Mary. Besides Donald, who did the tampering.



BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Since Maryanne Trump is a retired judge
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:08 PM
Feb 2021

I’d hope she would tell the truth under oath about the shenanigans Donny pulled to cheat Mary out of her fair share of the family money,

oldsoftie

(12,530 posts)
14. "..could have sued much earlier based on documents they handed over.."?
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:02 PM
Feb 2021

So they're saying "we gave her enough info YEARS ago that we were being fraudulent, she should have sued then"?

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
15. "In Chancery" by John Galsworthy
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:12 PM
Feb 2021

illustrates this kind off fraudulent court filing and statute of limitations nonsense very well. In the end, the lawyers get everything and the family gets bupkes.

It's a slog of a read, but I thought it was worth reading.

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
18. There's a doctrine in the law called the discovery rule.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 02:55 PM
Feb 2021

Basically it states that a statute of limitations doesn’t begin to run until the plaintiff has sufficient knowledge of the facts to realize they have a cause of action, or in the exercise of reasonable diligence should have discovered the facts.

It’s often invoked in fraud cases where the potential defendant has concealed relevant facts. Her problem is that she said in her book that she discovered the facts when she got documents from her attorney to give to the NY Times. I think it’s going to be hard to argue she couldn’t have discovered the facts. Her lawyer had the facts in his possession. He apparently didn’t review them sufficiently when advising her to accept the settlement.

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
20. Of all the disgusting things Trump has done, this is one of the most shameful. Cheating your own
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 07:03 PM
Feb 2021

sister. Of course, it does not sink to the level of being responsible for 500,000 Covid deaths, an insurrection against the US government, or keeping kids in cages.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
24. If Trump was ever fair or straight-dealing with anyone in his life...
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:49 PM
Feb 2021

Then it was entirely by accident, and I'm sure he immediately tried to screw the other party over as soon as he found out about it.

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