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BumRushDaShow

(129,432 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:50 AM Apr 21

Disgraced former Stormy Daniels lawyer says he would now testify for Trump

Source: UK Independent

11 hours ago


Michael Avenatti, the disgraced former lawyer for Stormy Daniels, has said that he is in touch with Donald Trump’s legal defence team and is willing to testify on behalf of the former president at his hush money trial.

“The defence has contacted me,” Avenatti told The New York Post from prison. “I’d be more than happy to testify, I don’t know that I will be called to testify, but I have been in touch with Trump’s defence for the better part of a year.”

Avenatti is currently serving a 19-year sentence for extortion, tax evasion, fraud, embezzlement and other federal crimes at Terminal Island, a minimum-security federal prison in Los Angeles.

He did not provide any details about his conversations with the Trump defence team. The Stormy Daniels scandal catapulted Avenatti into the public eye in 2018 when he represented the adult film star, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-michael-avenatti-stormy-daniels-b2532047.html

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Disgraced former Stormy Daniels lawyer says he would now testify for Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 21 OP
Can't imagine what he could testify to that would cut into the no_hypocrisy Apr 21 #1
When he was on Ari's show he spewed how she was a liar and other JohnSJ Apr 21 #7
My first thought that came to mind this morning is... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 21 #17
Or a pardon should TSF be re-elected. Sneederbunk Apr 21 #55
A pardon and to get his law license back. This makes him slimmer than before. usaf-vet Apr 21 #57
What a scumbag. Ray Bruns Apr 21 #69
Not a good way to avoid Type II diabetes. n/t Igel Apr 21 #79
He made a deal with the Devil (donald Satan trump) calimary Apr 21 #32
Bite your tongue. vanlassie Apr 21 #44
That is going to depend on the judges decision. cstanleytech Apr 21 #41
OK that makes sense. Thank you. Maraya1969 Apr 21 #67
Ari's worst hour. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 21 #77
He's already in prison COL Mustard Apr 21 #23
If "he'd do or say anything to get out of prison sooner", why in hell would he risk an ethics violation? Texin Apr 21 #34
Also, he too is a narcissist and TSF's current trial would bring some attention to him. Attilatheblond Apr 21 #39
He might get even lonelier if the slam him into solitary confinement. Texin Apr 21 #43
Avenatti just wants another fifteen minutes of fame. sop Apr 21 #29
He's a smart guy (too smart for his britches). He can find a way to get back at Stormy, though it has a chance of keopeli Apr 21 #2
He isn't smart or he wouldn't be in prison for fraud, embezzlement, and JohnSJ Apr 21 #5
I meant smart as opposed to intelligent. Lots of smart people (Harvard, Yale, etc) become repugs and criminals. But, I keopeli Apr 21 #36
Got it. Thanks JohnSJ Apr 21 #37
Yeah, not quite smart enough. dchill Apr 21 #50
that sleaze bucket said before that he was in prison because trump didn't like him. mucifer Apr 21 #3
I blame Ari for giving this POS airtime on his show to spew JohnSJ Apr 21 #4
Not one of Ari's finest moments, Ari just wanted to take a bow for getting an interview from prison, dem4decades Apr 21 #8
A journalist takes a story that's out there no matter how people react to it. ificandream Apr 21 #49
So do I. Ari is becoming all about "Ari," consequences, ethics of some of his interviews be damned... hlthe2b Apr 21 #9
Yes, those two guests were scathing in their criticism of the convicted JohnSJ Apr 21 #11
Another reason I refuse to watch msnbc Novara Apr 21 #12
Guy is seeking 15 more seconds of fame. Trueblue1968 Apr 21 #6
I suspect the prosecution can argue... Think. Again. Apr 21 #10
Wouldn't the same hold true for Brag's "Star" witness Cohen then? Barry Markson Apr 21 #16
No attorney client privilege if a crime radical noodle Apr 21 #19
Has a crime been proven? Barry Markson Apr 21 #20
If it must be proven in a courtroom first radical noodle Apr 21 #24
Cohen went to jail for his part of this crime. I think that is mainly why public TeamProg Apr 21 #25
Cohen was prosecuted by the Trump DOJ, no less. Marcuse Apr 21 #74
The attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if the attorney was involved in the crime. Ocelot II Apr 21 #52
That depends a great deal on what he is willing to claim FBaggins Apr 21 #58
Is attorney client a law? forthemiddle Apr 21 #63
Yes. It's the law as well as an ethics rule. Ocelot II Apr 21 #66
You learn something new every day! forthemiddle Apr 21 #72
Another clown enters the circus tent. Avenatti is not unexpected. He loves the attention and Vinca Apr 21 #13
What a loser Novara Apr 21 #14
Hope he knows to get his money up front! Freethinker65 Apr 21 #15
Oh, man Lulu KC Apr 21 #18
Just stay in your jail cell badhair77 Apr 21 #21
He such a likable guy! The jury will love him! TeamProg Apr 21 #22
A real credible witness 🙃 Deuxcents Apr 21 #26
One of the first questions should be bluestarone Apr 21 #27
That felony fraud conviction would be jammed down his throat on cross Ponietz Apr 21 #28
I'm guessing Avenatti is looking for a Trump pardon... agingdem Apr 21 #30
LOL. "Avenatti told The New York Post FROM PRISON" -- now THAT'S a credible witness if I've ever seen one! PSPS Apr 21 #31
Just the witness to buttress Trump's defense PJMcK Apr 21 #33
Remember when there were folks here on DU who wanted Avenatti to run for president?? Docreed2003 Apr 21 #35
Yes I do. Woodwizard Apr 21 #65
Remember when he went to Iowa to feel out his chances??? SKKY Apr 21 #75
i predict they put him on. mopinko Apr 21 #38
Birds of a feather. hay rick Apr 21 #40
This asshole hates being out of the limelight and is craving attention LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #42
I think he has a bit of a credibility problem marmar Apr 21 #45
Obviously he needs money. How much is he thinking that trump will pay him? Autumn Apr 21 #46
Nappy B. aka Napoleon Bonaparte, When your enemy is hurting themselves let 'em. Botany Apr 21 #47
PERFECT!!! The same guys who say Michael Cohen... Grins Apr 21 #48
Great point ... ificandream Apr 21 #51
Self inflicted impact injury for certain Ponietz Apr 21 #62
Perfect! orangecrush Apr 21 #53
Remember when he had lotsa fans on DU? Mister Ed Apr 21 #54
LOL, He only uses the best inmate prison lawyers from jail ! KS Toronado Apr 21 #56
He just wants a day pass. JenniferJuniper Apr 21 #59
+! struggle4progress Apr 21 #60
After all the crimes he's done and not just to her... Justice matters. Apr 21 #61
He should testify Nasruddin Apr 21 #64
It would be interesting - if the Trump** defense team is soldierant Apr 21 #68
What would he testify about? Trump is being charged with falsifying business records. enki23 Apr 21 #70
He's always been a sleezebag. iemanja Apr 21 #71
What a whore. n/t Evolve Dammit Apr 21 #73
Put him and Cohen into the ring. Two men enter, one man leaves. I hope they call Avenatti. He folded like a ... marble falls Apr 21 #76
Avenatti is just looking for a short vacation from the pen. Chainfire Apr 21 #78
Well, that's certainly a voice of honor, honesty, and integrity speaking up for Trump. keithbvadu2 Apr 21 #80

no_hypocrisy

(46,182 posts)
1. Can't imagine what he could testify to that would cut into the
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:56 AM
Apr 21

prosecution's case. He legally represented Stormy Daniels and he's barred from testifying about anything that is privileged information during that time.

JohnSJ

(92,382 posts)
7. When he was on Ari's show he spewed how she was a liar and other
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:32 AM
Apr 21

negative attributes about his former client. He doesn’t care, he is already in prison for fraud, embezzlement, and stealing, not just from Daniel’s, but Nike, etc.

He has nothing to lose, and hopes Trump wins and gives him a pardon.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,077 posts)
17. My first thought that came to mind this morning is...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:21 AM
Apr 21

... he is in prison and will do just about anything for a Happy Meal!

calimary

(81,456 posts)
32. He made a deal with the Devil (donald Satan trump)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:09 AM
Apr 21

for a pardon when Orange Man gets back to the White House. My suspicion anyway.

COL Mustard

(5,921 posts)
23. He's already in prison
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:42 AM
Apr 21

Are they going to add more time for an ethics violation?

He’d do or say anything to get out of prison sooner.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
34. If "he'd do or say anything to get out of prison sooner", why in hell would he risk an ethics violation?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:12 AM
Apr 21

That would result in having more time added to any remaining months of his served sentence. UNLESS he's already been disbarred (which he has been IIRC) and it doesn't apply to him anymore. I think he's just wanting to hit back at her and the prosecution from his own conviction and to generate churn for a future book deal or something. Sour grapes much, Michael? Of course litigators are show ponies and want attention.

He ought to really think that through before he opens his mouth or he could be sued for slander and/or defamation and add a hefty civ/pen on top of his incarceration sentence.

Attilatheblond

(2,201 posts)
39. Also, he too is a narcissist and TSF's current trial would bring some attention to him.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:36 AM
Apr 21

Must be lonely in prison. No microphones, no TV cameras, oh, how he must be jones-ing for some media attention.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
43. He might get even lonelier if the slam him into solitary confinement.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:51 AM
Apr 21

As I said before, trial lawyers are show ponies and are narcissists in their own right to a degree.

sop

(10,243 posts)
29. Avenatti just wants another fifteen minutes of fame.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:54 AM
Apr 21

The guy's a media attention whore. During his first fifteen minutes of fame the most dangerous place to be in America was between Avenatti and a television camera.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
2. He's a smart guy (too smart for his britches). He can find a way to get back at Stormy, though it has a chance of
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:38 AM
Apr 21

backfiring. A normal lawyer would not allow it due to his lack of credibility and motive for revenge. TSF's lawyers don't fall into the 'normal lawyer' category.

I think he's an attention whore that is flapping his mouth because he's so bored and pissed.

Can you believe the hypocrisy of this guy, who was once lauded for his anti-TSF rhetoric nationally? I used to enjoy his commentary. Just goes to show you that you can never be too skeptical of what you hear.

Mom taught me: Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you read. Modern day translation: Don't believe anything you hear on Teevee and only half of what you read on the internet.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
36. I meant smart as opposed to intelligent. Lots of smart people (Harvard, Yale, etc) become repugs and criminals. But, I
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 21

agree with you.

JohnSJ

(92,382 posts)
4. I blame Ari for giving this POS airtime on his show to spew
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:24 AM
Apr 21

his lies about his claims about his client. The convicted felon is no doubt going to say she is a liar because that is what he spewed on Ari’s show, and got no pushback.

No doubt he wants a pardon if Trump wins

I hope Ari loses viewers because of that stunt he pulled, but I suspect he will get more viewers instead.



dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
8. Not one of Ari's finest moments, Ari just wanted to take a bow for getting an interview from prison,
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:36 AM
Apr 21

Meaning he didn't care that he was putting a shithead on the air.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
49. A journalist takes a story that's out there no matter how people react to it.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 11:27 AM
Apr 21

Ari Melber is one of the best people on MSNBC. That interview said more about Avenatti than it does about Melber. People should be raising more cackles at the crap Fox does on a daily basis than for a single interview on MSNBC. MSNBC knows how to do journalism. Fox wouldn't know how to if it bit them on the ass.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
9. So do I. Ari is becoming all about "Ari," consequences, ethics of some of his interviews be damned...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:43 AM
Apr 21

His two legal guests after that interview were rightfully fit to be tied.

JohnSJ

(92,382 posts)
11. Yes, those two guests were scathing in their criticism of the convicted
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:57 AM
Apr 21

felon being given a forum to spew his lies. Too bad Ari didn’t push back on Avenatti’s garbage.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
12. Another reason I refuse to watch msnbc
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:26 AM
Apr 21

He is so hell-bent on being thought of as the guy who gets these interviews that he doesn't understand the deleterious effect on the public of giving these assholes microphones just for his own self-aggrandizement. Fuck him.

Think. Again.

(8,376 posts)
10. I suspect the prosecution can argue...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 06:49 AM
Apr 21

...that attorney-client privilege would leave this witness with nothing of value to the case.

Barry Markson

(224 posts)
16. Wouldn't the same hold true for Brag's "Star" witness Cohen then?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:09 AM
Apr 21

I suppose if the shoe fits or,

If it doesn't fit you must acquit. H/T Johnny Cochran.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
19. No attorney client privilege if a crime
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:27 AM
Apr 21

is involved... therefore Cohen can testify against trump. At least that's my understanding.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
24. If it must be proven in a courtroom first
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:43 AM
Apr 21

how would it ever apply? Cohen has the documents, the recordings, all the backup for proof.

TeamProg

(6,219 posts)
25. Cohen went to jail for his part of this crime. I think that is mainly why public
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:45 AM
Apr 21

/media lawyers have said that TFS is toast.

Ocelot II

(115,835 posts)
52. The attorney-client privilege doesn't apply if the attorney was involved in the crime.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 11:46 AM
Apr 21

But if he is called to testify about Stormy's credibility or otherwise relating to what she told him about the payment from Trump, communications between him and her when she was his client are still privileged because Stormy hadn't committed a crime, nor was he involved in a crime with her at the time. He was representing her in her lawsuit to void the nondisclosure agreement relating to the hush money payment, but accepting hush money isn't a crime. I don't think Avenatti can overcome the attorney-client privilege, which belongs to the client, unless Stormy waives it by testifying as to their communications. If she does, then he could testify in rebuttal.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
58. That depends a great deal on what he is willing to claim
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:20 PM
Apr 21

Accepting hush money isn't a crime - but demanding it can be extortion (which of course is a crime that he's been involved in before).

forthemiddle

(1,382 posts)
63. Is attorney client a law?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:20 PM
Apr 21

Or is it only an ethics violation? If it isn’t against the law, then why would he care about the ethic violation since I think he’s already lost his law license.

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
13. Another clown enters the circus tent. Avenatti is not unexpected. He loves the attention and
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:30 AM
Apr 21

the cameras and he's probably been begging them for months to testify.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
14. What a loser
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:32 AM
Apr 21

I remember when he first came on the scene he was so well respected for his representation of Stephanie Clifford and how he handled it. He's nothing but a crook just like Orange Droolius.

IF he does testify (and I'll bet Merchan won't allow it), the prosecution can hardly argue he has no credibility as a convicted felon while arguing that Michael Cohen has credibility despite being a convicted felon. The only difference is that Cohen already served his sentence.

But Avenatti doesn't have anything to add anyway because he wasn't involved in the payout scheme. It's clear he doesn't give a damn about attorney-client privilege anymore, and all he can offer is defamation, which isn't actually an issue here. There are receipts of the crime. Stephanie Clifford's character has nothing to do with the case.

Merchan probably wouldn't allow his testimony, just because he doesn't have anything to offer.

Freethinker65

(10,048 posts)
15. Hope he knows to get his money up front!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:08 AM
Apr 21

Would Trump really risk being unstaged in his trial by a possibly greater egotistical media hog?

bluestarone

(17,030 posts)
27. One of the first questions should be
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:51 AM
Apr 21

Have TFG contacted y ou? Then 2nd question should be, Have you been offered any compensation of ANY type to testify? Then go from there about his lies.

Ponietz

(3,004 posts)
28. That felony fraud conviction would be jammed down his throat on cross
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:52 AM
Apr 21

It’s called impeachment. This is a nothing burger.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
31. LOL. "Avenatti told The New York Post FROM PRISON" -- now THAT'S a credible witness if I've ever seen one!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:57 AM
Apr 21

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
33. Just the witness to buttress Trump's defense
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:09 AM
Apr 21

If Trump’s lawyers are seriously considering Avenatti as a defense witness, it shows how thin their case will be. He’s a terribly flawed witness who would be destroyed on cross examination.

Fundamentally, Trump has no defense. He’s guilty beyond the charges.

Woodwizard

(846 posts)
65. Yes I do.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:26 PM
Apr 21

Back when he was on every sensational TV show, I though he is an attention whore just like trump.
There were quite a few syrupy posts about him at the time.

That trend still happens, like the unflagging defense of Alec Baldwin who cheaped out on hiring non union workers.

SKKY

(11,821 posts)
75. Remember when he went to Iowa to feel out his chances???
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:15 PM
Apr 21

And some on DU were ready to cast their vote for him right then and there? Yea. Like Rick James once said, "Fame. It's a hell of a drug!"

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,548 posts)
42. This asshole hates being out of the limelight and is craving attention
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:46 AM
Apr 21

This asshole is in prison and wants people to pay attention to him

Botany

(70,578 posts)
47. Nappy B. aka Napoleon Bonaparte, When your enemy is hurting themselves let 'em.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 11:10 AM
Apr 21

Please let the team that is defending the disgraced ex President bring a convicted and disgraced felon out
of prison to help “their side” this would really help Trump’s image.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
48. PERFECT!!! The same guys who say Michael Cohen...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 11:22 AM
Apr 21

…can’t be trusted because he is a convicted liar, now want to bring a convicted liar OUT OF HIS PRISON CELL to testify for a guy on trial for lying and fraud!

Oh, to be that prosecutor that glorious day.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
51. Great point ...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 11:31 AM
Apr 21

... and I'll add that I would think Avenatti won't be allowed to just spew shit about her. I would guess the prosecutors will find a way to keep him off the witness list.

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
61. After all the crimes he's done and not just to her...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:41 PM
Apr 21

for money to pay his lavish lifestyle (Ferrari's are not cheap...) that other conman's credibility is in the gutter!

soldierant

(6,921 posts)
68. It would be interesting - if the Trump** defense team is
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:19 PM
Apr 21

dumb enough to fall for it.

Every ugly word they say about Michael Cohen will be turned back on them if they put Avenatti on the stand.

(IMO Cohen has the credibility that Avenatti doesn't and has prvved it in, for one example, his work with MEidas Touch.)

enki23

(7,790 posts)
70. What would he testify about? Trump is being charged with falsifying business records.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:54 PM
Apr 21

His defense doesn't include the idea that Stormy Daniels made it all up. I'm not sure that it would matter in this case if she did. His own lawyer went to prison for his role in paying her hush money. The sex wasn't illegal. The payments weren't illegal either, though both would have been if they'd been agreed to ahead of time. I'd guess they probably were, but both he and Ms. Daniels are motivated to pretend otherwise. Trump wanted to cover up the payments to hide them because they were damaging to his presidential campaign and committed several types of alleged fraud in seeking to do that. The payments are a matter of record. What "lie" could Ms. Daniels have possibly told that has any relevance to this case? Does Trump want Mr. Avenatti to testify under oath that Mr. Trump doesn't really have a mushroom dick?

marble falls

(57,182 posts)
76. Put him and Cohen into the ring. Two men enter, one man leaves. I hope they call Avenatti. He folded like a ...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:31 PM
Apr 21

... cheap suit at his own trial.

Chainfire

(17,636 posts)
78. Avenatti is just looking for a short vacation from the pen.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:52 PM
Apr 21

I can't say as I blame him for that. Would he be testifying as a character witness?

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