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BumRushDaShow

(130,347 posts)
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:09 AM May 9

House GOP passes bill to add citizenship question to census

Source: The Hill

05/08/24 10:49 PM ET


House Republicans on Wednesday passed a bill that calls for adding a citizenship question to the decennial census, re-upping an issue that the Supreme Court blocked in 2019.

The legislation — titled the Equal Representation Act — cleared the chamber in a party-line 206-202 vote.

The measure would direct the Census Bureau to add a question to the 10-year survey asking for the respondent’s citizenship status and require that the U.S. only consider citizens when determining the number of congressional seats each state receives.

Targeting that apportionment would give Republicans a pathway to slicing away at the impact of high-population, liberal-leaning states like California.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/4652876-house-gop-bill-citizenship-question-census/



Are they so stupid to not understand that this would apply to TX and FL too?
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House GOP passes bill to add citizenship question to census (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 9 OP
Easy. They will tell their supporters to lie on the question Raven123 May 9 #1
There is no reason to lie... Ohio Joe May 9 #3
Although DOA in the Senate - here is the bill BumRushDaShow May 9 #7
Oh, they would be excluded from electoral votes..LOL LeftInTX May 9 #17
Exactly BumRushDaShow May 9 #18
Well, they are not the sharpest tool in the shed.......................... Lovie777 May 9 #2
Some red states might lose congressional seats IronLionZion May 9 #4
"Some red states might lose congressional seats" - Like TX because BumRushDaShow May 9 #5
Taxus peppertree May 9 #14
Deleted. Looks like they want to change electoral count..LOL LeftInTX May 9 #15
Not what the census if for. DOA in the Senate, will be vetoed. More performative red meat for their bigoted base. AZLD4Candidate May 9 #6
Wouldn't this require a constitutional amendment? It specifically states "number of persons." PSPS May 9 #8
Fucking Republicans ! Traurigkeit May 9 #9
The Constitution requires all residents be counted, it does not say only citizens. LetMyPeopleVote May 9 #10
Everyone is counted. It's just that non-citizens are flagged LeftInTX May 9 #16
What's a republicon's favorite dance called? BaronChocula May 9 #11
Oh, good grief ScratchCat May 9 #12
I am thinking this is part of a MTG dirty laundry list of stupid items to bring up for a vote BumRushDaShow May 9 #13
GOP pushes misguided fight to add citizenship question to census LetMyPeopleVote Monday #19

Ohio Joe

(21,780 posts)
3. There is no reason to lie...
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:28 AM
May 9

There is only one question that has to be answered and that is how many people live at the residence.

BumRushDaShow

(130,347 posts)
7. Although DOA in the Senate - here is the bill
Thu May 9, 2024, 09:14 AM
May 9
H.R.7109 - Equal Representation Act

118th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 7109

[Report No. 118–476]

To require a citizenship question on the decennial census, to require reporting on certain census statistics, and to modify apportionment of Representatives to be based on United States citizens instead of all persons.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 29, 2024

Mr. Edwards (for himself and Mr. Davidson) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Accountability
April 29, 2024

Additional sponsors: Mr. Ogles, Mr. Bilirakis, Mr. Duncan, Mr. Fry, Mr. Grothman, Mr. DesJarlais, Mr. Timmons, Mr. Self, Mr. Curtis, Mrs. Miller of Illinois, Mr. Posey, Mr. Bean of Florida, Mr. Moore of Alabama, Mr. Rose, Ms. Lee of Florida, Mr. Weber of Texas, Mrs. Lesko, Mr. Collins, Mr. Graves of Louisiana, Mr. Babin, Mr. Mooney, Mrs. Miller of West Virginia, Mr. Fleischmann, Mr. Pfluger, Mr. Tiffany, Mr. Hern, Mr. Finstad, Mr. Johnson of South Dakota, Mr. Tony Gonzales of Texas, Mr. Feenstra, Mr. Gosar, Mrs. Cammack, Mr. Cline, Mr. LaMalfa, Mr. Mills, Mr. Bost, Mr. Banks, Mr. Strong, Mr. Burlison, Mrs. Houchin, Mr. Bishop of North Carolina, Mr. Guest, Mr. Latta, Mr. McCormick, Mr. Biggs, Mr. Crane, Mr. Reschenthaler, Mr. Rouzer, Mr. Sessions, Mr. Norman, Mr. Carter of Texas, Mr. Gooden of Texas, Mrs. Bice, Mr. Moolenaar, Mr. Balderson, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Westerman, Mr. Jordan, Mr. Williams of Texas, Mr. Nehls, Mr. Lamborn, Mr. Yakym, Mr. Brecheen, Mr. Mann, Mr. Mike Garcia of California, Ms. Greene of Georgia, Mr. Allen, Mr. Moran, Mr. Scott Franklin of Florida, Mr. Fallon, Mrs. Hinson, Mr. Bucshon, Mr. Good of Virginia, Mr. Higgins of Louisiana, Mr. Miller of Ohio, Mrs. McClain, Ms. Hageman, Mr. Graves of Missouri, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Smith of Nebraska, Mr. Langworthy, Mr. Flood, Mrs. Harshbarger, Mr. Clyde, Mr. Wenstrup, Mr. Green of Tennessee, Mrs. Wagner, Mrs. Fischbach, Mr. Donalds, Mr. Steube, Ms. Boebert, Mr. Meuser, Mr. Hunt, Mr. Dunn of Florida, Mr. Rosendale, Ms. Mace, Mr. Cloud, Mr. Estes, Mr. Jackson of Texas, Mr. Owens, Mr. Comer, Mr. Huizenga, Mr. Scalise, Mr. Roy, Ms. Tenney, Mr. D'Esposito, Mr. Loudermilk, Mr. Barr, Mr. Harris, Mr. LaTurner, Mr. Steil, Mr. LaHood, and Mr. Murphy
April 29, 2024

Reported with amendments, committed to the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, and ordered to be printed

[Strike out all after the enacting clause and insert the part printed in italic]

[For text of introduced bill, see copy of bill as introduced on January 29, 2024]
A BILL

To require a citizenship question on the decennial census, to require reporting on certain census statistics, and to modify apportionment of Representatives to be based on United States citizens instead of all persons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “Equal Representation Act”.

SEC. 2. Citizenship status on decennial census.

Section 141 of title 13, United States Code, is amended—

(1) by redesignating subsection (g) as subsection (h); and

(2) by inserting after subsection (f) the following:

“(g) (1) In conducting the 2030 decennial census and each decennial census thereafter, the Secretary shall include in any questionnaire distributed or otherwise used for the purpose of determining the total population by States a checkbox or other similar option for the respondent to indicate, for the respondent and for each of the members of the household of the respondent, whether that individual is a citizen of the United States.

“(2) Not later than 120 days after completion of a decennial census of the population under subsection (a), the Secretary shall make publicly available the number of individuals per State, disaggregated by citizens of the United States and noncitizens, as tabulated in accordance with this section.”.

SEC. 3. Exclusion of noncitizens from number of persons used to determine apportionment of representatives and number of electoral votes.

(a) Exclusion.—Section 22(a) of the Act entitled “An Act to provide for the fifteenth and subsequent decennial censuses and to provide for apportionment of Representatives in Congress”, approved June 18, 1929 (2 U.S.C. 2a(a)), is amended by inserting after “not taxed” the following: “and individuals who are not citizens of the United States”.

(b) Effective date.—The amendment made by subsection (a) shall apply with respect to the apportionment of Representatives carried out pursuant to the decennial census conducted during 2030 and any succeeding decennial census.

SEC. 4. Severability clause.

If any provision of this Act or amendment made by this Act, or the application thereof to any person or circumstance, is held to be unconstitutional, the remainder of the provisions of this Act and amendments made by this Act, and the application of the provision or amendment to any other person or circumstance, shall not be affected.


Amend the title so as to read: “A bill to require a citizenship question on the decennial census, to require reporting on certain census statistics, and to modify apportionment of Representatives to be based on United States citizens instead of all individuals.”.

LeftInTX

(25,899 posts)
17. Oh, they would be excluded from electoral votes..LOL
Thu May 9, 2024, 04:27 PM
May 9
SEC. 3. Exclusion of noncitizens from number of persons used to determine apportionment of representatives and number of electoral votes.

(a) Exclusion.—Section 22(a) of the Act entitled “An Act to provide for the fifteenth and subsequent decennial censuses and to provide for apportionment of Representatives in Congress”, approved June 18, 1929 (2 U.S.C. 2a(a)), is amended by inserting after “not taxed” the following: “and individuals who are not citizens of the United States”.

(b) Effective date.—The amendment made by subsection (a) shall apply with respect to the apportionment of Representatives carried out pursuant to the decennial census conducted during 2030 and any succeeding decennial census.



I don't have a problem with that..LOL. It means at least one less district in Texas! LOL And I would get put back into a blue district.
They currently pack non-voting immigrants into blue districts.

It would require a change in the constitution however.

Citizen questions were on the 1950 census.

IronLionZion

(45,695 posts)
4. Some red states might lose congressional seats
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:35 AM
May 9

and then during redistricting, the larger new districts might be a little more diverse than GOP are comfortable with.

BumRushDaShow

(130,347 posts)
5. "Some red states might lose congressional seats" - Like TX because
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:55 AM
May 9


(ETA - and UT, & WY, OK and purple states like NV, AZ, NM, CO)

peppertree

(21,782 posts)
14. Taxus
Thu May 9, 2024, 03:43 PM
May 9

I lived there for a couple of years around 20 years ago.

Their property taxes are of Swedish proportions - except you get almost nothing in return.

Plus, the utility rates are highway robbery. And so are their traffic cops - who basically just roam the streets with cowboy hats, looking for someone to shake down.

LeftInTX

(25,899 posts)
15. Deleted. Looks like they want to change electoral count..LOL
Thu May 9, 2024, 04:15 PM
May 9

Last edited Thu May 9, 2024, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

It won't go anywhere.

Citizenship has been a question from 1910-at least 1950. However, it was not used for redistricting.

I know in Texas, they list the number of registered voters in a district. (hint, hint..citizens) However, they don't use the # of registered to voters to draw district lines. Texas would have one less district if they only counted US citizens to draw districts.

LeftInTX

(25,899 posts)
16. Everyone is counted. It's just that non-citizens are flagged
Thu May 9, 2024, 04:20 PM
May 9

It was asked in the 1950 Census and previous censuses.

My great grandmother was never a US citizen

ScratchCat

(2,034 posts)
12. Oh, good grief
Thu May 9, 2024, 02:48 PM
May 9

This was already shot down during the Trump administration because Congress can't change what the Constitution says.

First it was a bill to prevent illegals from voting - which they can't - and now they pivot right back to the census nonsense which has already been declared unconstitutional years ago.

They have nothing to run on.

LetMyPeopleVote

(146,177 posts)
19. GOP pushes misguided fight to add citizenship question to census
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:31 AM
Monday

Donald Trump tried and failed to add a citizenship question to the census. Congressional Republicans are picking up where the former president left off.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gop-pushes-misguided-fight-add-citizenship-question-census-rcna151660

The underlying Republican goal, however, remains a partisan priority, as became clear on Capitol Hill this week. The Associated Press reported on GOP efforts to alter the 2030 count.

Some Republicans in Congress are pushing to require a citizenship question on the questionnaire for the once-a-decade census and exclude people who aren’t citizens from the count that helps determine political power in the United States. The GOP-led House on Wednesday passed a bill that would eliminate noncitizens from the tally gathered during a census and used to decide how many House seats and Electoral College votes each state gets.


The Republicans’ oddly named “Equal Representation Act” cleared the House on Wednesday on a party-line vote: GOP members were unanimous in their support for the bill, while Democrats were unanimous in their opposition.

The measure now heads to the Democratic-led Senate, where it will be ignored. President Joe Biden has also already announced his opposition to the legislation......

The assertions weren’t even close to being true, though the claims are likely to become far-right orthodoxy (if they aren’t already).

The AP’s report added, “[O]pponents say the idea, once on the ideological fringe, has never gotten so far in the legislative process.”

It’s an important detail. In the not-too-distant past, changing the census this way would’ve been a priority for anti-immigrant extremists — and no one else. In 2024, this same idea reached the U.S. House floor and received unanimous support from the Republican conference, including ostensible “moderates” and members from competitive districts.
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