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BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
Mon May 13, 2024, 05:53 PM May 13

Roger Stone Blasted For Claiming '90s Concert Photo Was Actually Trump Rally

Source: Huff Post

May 13, 2024, 01:58 PM EDT


Republican operative Roger Stone was slammed on Sunday after he posted a picture of what he claimed was a photo of the supposedly massive crowds at former President Donald Trump’s New Jersey rally on Saturday.

A spokesperson for the city of Wildwood, New Jersey ― where the rally took place ― estimated that as many as 100,000 people showed up to the rally. However, photos and film footage told a different story. Although there was a crowd of people behind the former president when he spoke, the audience in front looked sparse, and got smaller toward the end of his 90-minute speech.

On Sunday, Stone posted a photo of a large crowd and claimed it was from the Trump rally: “Yeah , New Jersey is in play for @realDonaldTrump. Could Joe Biden draw a crowd like this?”

However, people noticed the mountains in the background, which aren’t a part of the topography of the New Jersey shore, and immediately ascertained the photo was fake. In fact, as the community note that was eventually attached to Stone’s post noted, the photo was actually from a 1994 Rod Stewart concert in Rio De Janeiro.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roger-stone-donald-trump-nj-rally_n_66424440e4b0c43c96b13df5






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This image was taken on December 31, 1994 at the Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
It depicts the crowd at a concert by singer-songwriter Rod Stewart in what is known as the world's largest free music concert, with an attendance of over 3.5 million people.

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1:16 PM · May 12, 2024


He belongs in the cell with Navarro.
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Roger Stone Blasted For Claiming '90s Concert Photo Was Actually Trump Rally (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 13 OP
It really does look like the mountains of the New Jersey coastline whopis01 May 13 #1
That ratfucker should be in jail! Ferryboat May 13 #2
and paying his fines . AllaN01Bear May 13 #16
Stone is an Evil Piece of Crap !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 14 #28
Roger Stone's bush v Gore handy work in 2000 "The Brooks Brother Riot." Botany May 14 #32
So the question for our Republican friends and acquaintances is, if you are being lied to like this mahina May 13 #3
When did Roger Stone claim that was a picture of Trump's Wildwood rally? mahatmakanejeeves May 13 #4
The "X" in the OP comment section was from Roger Stone BumRushDaShow May 13 #5
Got it, but does he claim that's the Trump rally mahatmakanejeeves May 13 #9
No, he didn't SAY (or tweet) the exact words "This is a photo of Trump's rally in Wildeood, NJ. ShazzieB May 13 #10
But wait... there's more! BumRushDaShow May 13 #13
Stone is without shame or remorse Botany May 14 #35
He intentionally spreads misinformation so that the MAGats and Russian trolls can run with it BumRushDaShow May 14 #37
I disagree with you in that Stone spreads the disinformation that originated with Russia but he Botany May 14 #38
Didn't mean that all of his disinfo started with Russia but that Russian (and Chinese) trolls will magnify it BumRushDaShow May 14 #39
Anyway you look @ it the installation of Trump and the different ways that the disinformation is ... Botany May 14 #41
Yup BumRushDaShow May 14 #42
Kompromat is part of how Vlad, Trump, the mob, and others work Botany May 14 #43
If nothing else, he does know how to successfully troll JoseBalow May 13 #14
FFS we can do it May 13 #18
The inference is there. Aussie105 May 13 #6
Sneaky Marketing HandmaidsTaleUntold May 13 #11
Real recognize real, right? Prairie Gates May 13 #24
You need to learn how propaganda works NanaCat May 14 #31
He is creepy beyond any other. twodogsbarking May 13 #7
Well, I'm convinced ... surrealAmerican May 13 #8
Crawl back under your rock stone. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 13 #12
Another entry in the "latinamericanization" of GOP politics peppertree May 13 #15
... catbyte May 13 #17
Winner! FakeNoose May 13 #19
The the award goes to...... aurora the great May 13 #21
Yes the wild rocky mountainous coast VGNonly May 13 #20
Welcome to "Community Notes Violating People"! sakabatou May 13 #22
All Republicans know that they can lie to their followers and their followers will believe whatever they say. Yavin4 May 13 #23
Stupid liars posting stupid lies... DemocraticPatriot May 14 #25
WTF dude? Aussie105 May 14 #26
and Stone is revered on Easter Island..... trusty elf May 14 #27
This one has more personality. Thanks dog. twodogsbarking May 14 #29
Well, thank goodness.... MissMillie May 14 #30
Indeed NanaCat May 14 #33
Rio is in play! Zambero May 14 #34
Roger Stone: sleazy little prankster kch22 May 14 #36
It is forever America's shame that vile, dishonest snakes like Roger Stone, Michael Flynn and Atwater Baitball Blogger May 14 #40

Botany

(70,754 posts)
32. Roger Stone's bush v Gore handy work in 2000 "The Brooks Brother Riot."
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:18 AM
May 14


America and the world is still paying a price for Stone, Sandy Day O’Conner, James
Baker, Fox News, and Dick Cheney’s a long with others rat fucking of our democracy.

Stone takes joy being a dirt bag. I believe Stone was the one behind getting Al Franken
to resign from the senate. The man is a bag of malignant hog mucus who should be
in prison.

mahina

(17,861 posts)
3. So the question for our Republican friends and acquaintances is, if you are being lied to like this
Mon May 13, 2024, 06:30 PM
May 13

On so many fronts, don’t you want to know and don’t you wonder why

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,976 posts)
4. When did Roger Stone claim that was a picture of Trump's Wildwood rally?
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:07 PM
May 13

Cite, please, because I haven’t seen that tweet.

The most I’ve seen Roger Stone say is,

Yeah , New Jersey is in play for @realDonaldTrump. Could Joe Biden draw a crowd like this?

BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
5. The "X" in the OP comment section was from Roger Stone
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:23 PM
May 13

and included that picture!

Here it is -




Roger Stone
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Yeah , New Jersey is in play for @realDonaldTrump. Could Joe Biden draw a crowd like this?
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Readers added context
This is a photo from a Rod Stewart concert almost 30 years ago.

“ On December 31, 1994, Rod Stewart performed at Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro in front of an estimated 3.5 to 4.2 million people.”

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1:16 PM · May 12, 2024


ShazzieB

(16,805 posts)
10. No, he didn't SAY (or tweet) the exact words "This is a photo of Trump's rally in Wildeood, NJ.
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:51 PM
May 13

But he certainly IMPLIED it bigly! That's what people are reacting to and why he's getting dragged.

If you think he really didn't mean to pass that photo off as evidence of the size of the rally, I beg to differ. I 100% believe that was his intention.

BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
13. But wait... there's more!
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:35 PM
May 13
Roger Stone Responds to Trump Crowd Post Criticism: 'No Sense of Humor'

Published May 13, 2024 at 5:56 AM EDT
By Chloe Mayer


Roger Stone has lashed out after being mocked on social media when he shared a photo that he claimed showed a Donald Trump rally—which was later revealed to be a picture of a Rod Stewart concert. The ally of the former president later suggested his post about Saturday's rally in New Jersey had simply been a joke; he addressed the furor by saying, "Liberals have no sense of humor." The incident comes amid fears that false stories are being circulated online that make it difficult for Americans to know what is real. Just a few weeks ago, Trump was accused of sharing "fake news" on social media by sharing articles that had been heavily edited to remove unfavorable passages about him. For his part, Trump claims it is the media or his rivals who peddle "fake news."

(snip)

Taking to X after the true nature of the photograph emerged, Stone shared a summary about the incident created by AI platform Grok, with his own comment saying: "Liberals have no sense of humor. 10,000 people at the New Jersey shore is still 10,000 people. #Trump2024." But his comment on that post was also hit by claims of inaccuracy, this time from his own side, as Trump fans pointed out that news outlets, including Fox News, had actually put the crowd numbers at closer to 100,000 rather than 10,000. Others have questioned the true size of the crowd gathered on the beach in the town of Wildwood. Trump was also mocked after the event for appearing to slur his words during his speech.

Stone did not delete his original post containing the Brazilian image, and it remained online as of early Monday morning. It has been shared over 3,000 times, although many of the 7,000 comments underneath were X users berating him for the falsely-attributed photograph. One wrote: "Ah yes...a vista of the glorious mountains of the Jersey Shore...effing idjit." Another added: "If Jersey looked like that, I'd go more lol."

The Grok summary of the incident, which was shared by Stone, said: "On May 12, 2024, Roget Stone, a political consultant and ally of former President Donald Trump, posted a photo on X claiming it depicted a Trump rally in New Jersey. However, users quickly identified the image as a 1994 Rod Stewart concert in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Despite the correction, Stone did not remove or correct the post, leading to widespread criticism and accusations of dishonesty from X users. The incident sparked a wave of mockery and criticism directed at Stone and Trump, highlighting concerns about the spread of misinformation on social media platforms." The AI model added: "This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs."

(snip)


https://www.newsweek.com/roger-stone-donald-trump-rally-rod-stewart-1899729






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Liberals have no sense of humor. 10,000 people at the New Jersey shore is still 10,000 people. #Trump2024
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12:26 AM · May 13, 2024




It's all how they operate with misinformation. IOW, "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission".

Botany

(70,754 posts)
35. Stone is without shame or remorse
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:45 AM
May 14

When caught blatantly lying he blames it on “the liberals” for not having a sense of humor
if he can’t be in prison for his crimes he could @ least have the good manners to just die.

BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
37. He intentionally spreads misinformation so that the MAGats and Russian trolls can run with it
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:02 AM
May 14

His whole shtick has been as a professional (criminal) troll, along with his buddies (including a former buddy) - Paul Manafort and Lee Atwater.

Botany

(70,754 posts)
38. I disagree with you in that Stone spreads the disinformation that originated with Russia but he
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:25 AM
May 14

… also lives by the Nazi German Joesph Gobbels “big lie” philosophy too. Examples
of Russian generated lies that Stone, Fox, and the GOP has been spewing is the twitter
files, Hunter Biden and his laptop, Burisma, and payments from China to the Bidens.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

I have no doubt that he gets money from Russia and talking points all the time. It doesn’t
bother him at all to rat fuck our Democracy in order to keep republicans in power.

BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
39. Didn't mean that all of his disinfo started with Russia but that Russian (and Chinese) trolls will magnify it
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:35 AM
May 14

using social media outlets. Of course his involvement with Russian bad actors is known including the spread of distorted info published by WikiLeaks from the Russian-hacked DNC server back in 2016...

U.S. government says Roger Stone ‘undermined’ Russia inquiry


Politics Nov 13, 2019 5:37 PM EDT

WASHINGTON — Republican political operative Roger Stone undermined the effectiveness of the congressional investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election by repeatedly and deliberately lying under oath to help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign avoid embarrassment, prosecutors told jurors in closing arguments at his trial Wednesday.

Defense attorneys countered that Stone had done nothing deliberately illegal and claimed the government’s case was built on conjecture, leaps of logic and unreliable witnesses.

Stone, 67, was indicted in January as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian electoral tampering. A veteran Republican political operative and longtime Trump confidant, Stone is accused of lying to lawmakers about his attempts to communicate with the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, tampering with a witness and obstructing a House Intelligence Committee investigation into whether Trump’s Republican presidential campaign coordinated with Russia to tip the 2016 election.

The case is expected to go to the jury on Thursday after about a week of testimony. If convicted, Stone could face up to 20 years in prison.

(snip)


He did manage to get a pardon for the above.

Botany

(70,754 posts)
41. Anyway you look @ it the installation of Trump and the different ways that the disinformation is ...
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:40 AM
May 14

…. decimated it is all part of the biggest international crime in America’s history and that the
Godfathers of all this chaos are Vlad Putin & Rupert Murdoch and the GOP more than aware of
what is happening and is a willing participant in these attacks on our democracy.

Putin used his KGB training to recruit and get kompromat on Trump to turn him into a willing
agent for Russia along with working for China & Saudi Arabia too. The bottom line is that the
Steele dossier is true and not just the pee pee part.

BumRushDaShow

(130,888 posts)
42. Yup
Tue May 14, 2024, 11:38 AM
May 14

and the kompromat runs deep throughout the Republican party! The fact that the current Speaker of the House is attending the trial of a criminal and is attempting to defend him, is a case in point.

Botany

(70,754 posts)
43. Kompromat is part of how Vlad, Trump, the mob, and others work
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:46 PM
May 14

I have always wondered what Trump had on Lindsey Graham during the Columbus Day 2017
golf outing.

JoseBalow

(2,833 posts)
14. If nothing else, he does know how to successfully troll
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:40 PM
May 13

He knew that this would be the reaction, and he was right. Some people will never learn.

Aussie105

(5,584 posts)
6. The inference is there.
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:24 PM
May 13

The inference being, that the picture and Trump's rally are linked.

But the truth be told, the music of Rod Stewart draws a bigger crowd than any political rally.

I was going to suggest to use Google reverse lookup for that image, but someone already has.

https://listverse.com/2012/09/08/10-notable-world-records-and-events/

'An inconvenient truth' that is called REALITY by some. Roger, try harder! (Try harder to stay connected to reality.)


NanaCat

(1,871 posts)
31. You need to learn how propaganda works
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:13 AM
May 14

It doesn't always say something outright. Instead, it will often use inference and vague language and imagery to make its point. Take this Nazi film still:



You have a picture of doctors who look like they're agonizing over a decision. The text reads: 'Das Leben nur als Last,' and translates to 'Life only as a burden.' Its giving an impression of compassionate care, in words and image. Nowhere does it outright say, in specific words, 'We're about to go all-in on murdering Jews.'

But that's what it is saying, in actuality, because the Nazis created this with the intention of convincing less blood-thirsty German citizens of how killing Jews would be doing the Jews a favour.

Stone, a well-known fascist and propagandist, resorted to a similar technique in his obnoxious tweet, using words and a false image to manipulate people into believing that TSF drew a huge crowd in New Jersey that Biden never could. He doesn't have to use the precise words to convey that very message--and he didn't. He knew exactly what he was doing, and why.

Being too literal-minded makes you vulnerable to propaganda.

peppertree

(21,874 posts)
15. Another entry in the "latinamericanization" of GOP politics
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:46 PM
May 13

Right-wing miscreants from south of the border have been doing that for many years - among all kinds of other fake news.

One of the best-known was, in fact, from a sycophant for Trump's old pal Macri in Argentina.

When Macri took office in late 2015 (since which, it's been downhill almost all the way), one of loudest backers - a notorious plagiarizer - tweeted a supposed photo from a very large and exultant crowd which had gathered to "greet" him.

Except the photo was from a rally in support of the (ill-advised) 1982 invasion of the Falklands - by another disastrous right-wing regime.



They've tried that same trick many times since - as well as gross, Trump-style lies about crowd sizes, etc.

Yavin4

(35,475 posts)
23. All Republicans know that they can lie to their followers and their followers will believe whatever they say.
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:57 PM
May 13

The Republican party has become a cult.

Aussie105

(5,584 posts)
26. WTF dude?
Tue May 14, 2024, 12:58 AM
May 14

Roger Stone and Reality have a vague relationship.

Stone: Reality is whatever I say it is! Trump told me it works like that!

Real Reality looks on and goes . . . WTF dude?

Stone: Wasn't expecting to be caught out like that, but . . . Aww, just a joke!

Real Reality goes: Not funny! Get help!

NanaCat

(1,871 posts)
33. Indeed
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:22 AM
May 14


The song gets its share of flack for the cheesiness, but that Passarelli bass line is exquisite.

Zambero

(8,985 posts)
34. Rio is in play!
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:44 AM
May 14

It's time for Dirtbag Don to high-tail it down there for an encore performance. Those millions of Brazilians can't be wrong!

kch22

(3 posts)
36. Roger Stone: sleazy little prankster
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:54 AM
May 14

When I first read about Stone’s latest prank, I realized, oh yeah, that’s what he does. Implies that the Rod Stewart concert picture was from the Trump rally without explicitly saying so. Then making fun of Dems for jumping to that conclusion. You see, the problem is the Dems have “no sense of humor.”

Yeah, I don’t think that’s exactly how I’d put it. My impression has always been that Stone is a a sleazy piece of garbage.

Baitball Blogger

(46,866 posts)
40. It is forever America's shame that vile, dishonest snakes like Roger Stone, Michael Flynn and Atwater
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:55 AM
May 14

were allowed to use such deceitful, nasty methods for decades without seeing jail time.

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