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BumRushDaShow

(131,746 posts)
Fri May 17, 2024, 04:40 PM May 17

New ad taunts Trump to take stand in hush money trial - or admit he's a coward

Source: UK Independent

1 hour ago


Donald Trump has been taunted to take the stand in his New York hush money trial in a new advert which uses the former president’s own words against him.

The ad, from centre-left group Third Way, implores Mr Trump to “take the stand” or “admit you’re a coward” by featuring a 2016 quote from the former president where he asks, “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth?”

Mr Trump originally made the comment during a campaign rally about investigations into Hillary Clinton and her staff. Since then, the former president has changed his tune. He pleaded the Fifth Amendment during a deposition with the New York Attorney General in 2022 and has played a will-he won’t-he game about testifying in his hush money trial.

“Donald, why won’t you testify? After all, you believe only guilty cowards take the Fifth,” the voiceover mocks Mr Trump during the 30-second ad. The ad, titled “Coward” launched on Friday in the Palm Beach, Florida area – where Mr Trump lives at his Mar-a-Lago residence, according to POLITICO’s Playbook.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ad-coward-trial-stand-b2546989.html



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New ad taunts Trump to take stand in hush money trial - or admit he's a coward (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 17 OP
Funny, but he took the 5th amendment 500 or so times MiniMe May 17 #1
Had to take little sips of water two handedly from a sippy cup. Dried its mouth so much 5ths Pleading. Traurigkeit May 17 #4
Good, give em hell. flying_wahini May 17 #2
But.... It is a coward. Got it from it's Grandpa when his Grandpa ran away from service. Traurigkeit May 17 #3
. The ad, titled "Coward" launched on Friday in the Palm Beach, Florida area - where Mr Trump lives at his Mar-a-Lago re riversedge May 17 #5
It was actually aired right at 5pm ET at the beginning of Nicole's 2nd hour (at least here in Philly) BumRushDaShow May 17 #6
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell he will testify. TomSlick May 17 #7
I saw a video here with Julie Blackman, PhD, social psychologist. Irish_Dem May 18 #13
I'm rooting for Dr. Blackman to be correct. TomSlick May 18 #15
We know Trump would ignore his lawyers. Irish_Dem May 18 #16
I don't think he'll testify and i think the money spent on this ad could be better spent supporting Democratic onenote May 17 #8
Any ad painting a R in a bad light helps our side. KS Toronado May 18 #10
He doesn't have to admit it, everyone already know he is it's just that his cult member don't care. cstanleytech May 17 #9
He won't testify. Demobrat May 18 #11
Paid for by Third Way PAC. Mawspam2 May 18 #12
The modern "Third Way" goes way back to Bill Clinton and Al Gore BumRushDaShow May 18 #14
Okay. So they're Simpson-Bowles catfood commission Democrats. Mawspam2 May 18 #17
That was another popular moniker for them on DU BumRushDaShow May 18 #19
On advise of council, I will be- Prairie_Seagull May 18 #18
Does Trump see ads like this? Martin68 May 19 #20

riversedge

(70,954 posts)
5. . The ad, titled "Coward" launched on Friday in the Palm Beach, Florida area - where Mr Trump lives at his Mar-a-Lago re
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:31 PM
May 17

Many still line the streets to greet him when he arrives at MAL after a trip. I shake my head!!


.......... The ad, titled “Coward” launched on Friday in the Palm Beach, Florida area – where Mr Trump lives at his Mar-a-Lago residence,

BumRushDaShow

(131,746 posts)
6. It was actually aired right at 5pm ET at the beginning of Nicole's 2nd hour (at least here in Philly)
Fri May 17, 2024, 05:51 PM
May 17

It was in one of those MSNBC "windows" with a caption of "political ad". She didn't comment on it so I'm not sure if that "window" allows for local affiliate ads or it was part of their programming to show it (I know during Ari's show, there are sometimes split screens of him waiting to go back on the air while local commercials are running in another window).

TomSlick

(11,230 posts)
7. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell he will testify.
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:46 PM
May 17

For what it's worth, it's almost always a bad idea for a criminal defendant to testify. Like any other criminal defendant, Trump has a right to not testify and require the prosecution to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt.

No matter how vile he is, Trump is entitled to all the same constitutional protections as any other criminal defendant.

Irish_Dem

(50,324 posts)
13. I saw a video here with Julie Blackman, PhD, social psychologist.
Sat May 18, 2024, 06:29 AM
May 18

She is a consultant for high profile trials and was mainly talking about the hush money jury
and interpreting their non verbal behavior. And talking about jury psychology.

She says something interesting about Trump; she thinks he might testify.
Dues to his ego, he will want to get on the stand and make his case.

I agree with you that the probability is low, but she did have an interesting spin and thinks it's possible.
She has been working with court trials for decades.

TomSlick

(11,230 posts)
15. I'm rooting for Dr. Blackman to be correct.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:14 AM
May 18

Trump will have to ignore his lawyers to take the stand but it would be a mistake to underestimate his ego. It's dangerous to think yourself the smartest guy in every room.

Irish_Dem

(50,324 posts)
16. We know Trump would ignore his lawyers.
Sat May 18, 2024, 11:26 AM
May 18

And his ego is huge, as is his desire to speak out and run his mouth.

Maybe Dr. Blackman has a point.

I don't know if this is just her 2 cents or if she has heard some scuttlebutt.

onenote

(43,240 posts)
8. I don't think he'll testify and i think the money spent on this ad could be better spent supporting Democratic
Fri May 17, 2024, 08:51 PM
May 17

candidates for the Senate and House.

Demobrat

(9,159 posts)
11. He won't testify.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:31 AM
May 18

He would never deliberately put himself in a position where he has to answer to another person. No way could his ego tolerate that.

BumRushDaShow

(131,746 posts)
14. The modern "Third Way" goes way back to Bill Clinton and Al Gore
Sat May 18, 2024, 07:33 AM
May 18

It was derisively known on DU as "Turd Way" and represented the position of the "blue dog Democrats" (social liberals but fiscal conservatives) and "neoliberals".

THE 1992 CAMPAIGN: The Democrats; Clinton Says He's Not Leaning Left but Taking a New 'Third Way'

By MICHAEL KELLY SEPT. 26, 1992

Seeking to counter this week's Republican offensive portraying him as a leftist, tax-mad, big-government liberal, Bill Clinton today began an effort to once more position himself as a "third way" Democrat, neither of the left nor the right. At the same time, the Democratic Presidential nominee sought to turn President Bush's attack against him, depicting his opponent as a "do-nothing" President who is "out of touch, out of ideas and out of time," and who clings to the "stale, failed rhetoric of the past." Mr. Clinton introduced his new defense in a noontime address that was almost preachily earnest to a small crowd of invited guests at the University of Connecticut at Hartford, in West Hartford.

He echoed it, in a looser fashion, before a passionate, mostly young crowd of more than 10,000 people packed shoulder-to-shoulder near the historic Faneuil Hall here. 'A Can-Do Country'. "You cannot permit this election to be about false choices from America's past, about the same old categories, the same old boxes we try to put people in," Mr. Clinton said in West Hartford. "We are living in a new world, at the end of the cold war, and we have new challenges and new opportunities and we had better seize them, and we had better be willing to park all this aimless hot-air rhetoric at the door and deal with the people's problems and the people's agenda.

"I think this is a can-do country," he continued. "This should not be an election about the stale, failed political rhetoric of the past. If we let this be about tax and spend and trickle-down, we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. This is about whether we have the courage to face up to the realities of modern life."

In truth, Mr. Clinton evinces no shame in discussing the Republicans' theory of trickle-down economics, which he mocks in most speeches. But his distaste for the words "tax and spend" is both profound and well-founded; the charge of liberalism, if it sticks, can be fatal to a Democrat seeking the White House.

(snip)

https://web.archive.org/web/20190301094321/https://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/26/us/1992-campaign-democrats-clinton-says-he-s-not-leaning-left-but-taking-new-third.html


The org is still there sort of sitting the background, so it is interesting seeing them resurface again (they pretty much got wiped out in 2010 with Democrats dumping the moderate and conservative Democrats, with those elected officials being replaced with Koch-fueled astroturf teabaggers) - https://www.thirdway.org/

BumRushDaShow

(131,746 posts)
19. That was another popular moniker for them on DU
Sat May 18, 2024, 02:43 PM
May 18

I think some who followed the ideology morphed into (at least in Congress) what became the "Problem Solvers Caucus", and since I hadn't heard anything from them in years, I was surprised to see the name pop up again.

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