2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Hillary Clinton run for president in 2016?
By Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian
Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:25 EST
The campaign T-shirts are already on sale, the Washington rumour mill is in overdrive. But even if Hillary Clinton does decide to run for the White House in 2016, can she win?
Hillary Clinton, if you believe the hype, is only weeks away from girding up for her second run for president in 2016, this time going all the way to the White House. John Kerry, nominated last week as her successor as secretary of state, will be confirmed by the Senate in mid-January, leaving the coast clear for Clinton to begin preparing her battle for the presidency. And, after her successful term in Barack Obamas administration, why shouldnt she?
The entire Democratic establishment is urging Clinton to run not least her husband, Bill. Die-hard fans are prepping for an announcement, with Hillary 2016 T-shirts for sale online and coy postings on the Friends of Hillary Facebook page: Merry Christmas everyone! Hillary has a present, but shell only be able to give it to you in about 4 years
And after 20 years in Washington, 2012 was the year Clinton officially became hip, with her own viral internet meme, a parody Tumblr site called Texts from Hillary. All of which, bizarrely, could doom a potential Clinton candidacy.
For those who watched Clintons first run for the White House, the clamour for her to run again, the idea that there is no one more entitled than she is to the nomination and then the White House, is beginning to sound depressingly familiar.
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graham4anything
(11,464 posts)the conspiracy theorists can yap all they want
but Obama's core fans and her fans don't listen.
And being that there is no other woman except Michelle strong enough to beat Jeb, it has to be her anyhow
and at the moment, NO other democrat at all.
daa
(2,621 posts)CrispyQ
(36,422 posts)called me last night. We don't usually talk politics. We know that we are opposites. Last night we talked politics a little bit. You could have knocked me over with a feather when she stated, "I hope Hilary Clinton runs. I'd vote for her. Well unless Ron Paul gets on the ticket, then I'd vote for him. But right now, I do not see any other candidate that I would vote for more than her."
Ok, this on the Ron Paul thing, but on Clinton.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.
So Hillary, tell us -- what exactly are engineers and IT people supposed to train for after their jobs get outsourced?
boingboinh
(290 posts)I feel she is more politically to the Right than Obama..and Obama, if people are honest, governs as a moderate republican.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)can run and win? If the Repubs run a younger candidate, we're going to have a McCain/Obama matchup in reverse.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Field is likely to be a whole bunch of centrist establishment types, except for maybe Schweitzer (who's still not all that liberal, but better than most).
boingboinh
(290 posts)I find it sad that today's definition of "centrist" is just another word for "establishment" and so the media treats anyone they consider "centrist" as GODS, giving them open-seats on Sunday shows almost exclusively.
The US needs a viable 3rd party like they have in Canada because of the same reason we are messed up here: Both parties giving BJs to their corporate masters with no one representing the people.
union_maid
(3,502 posts)I have no special insight, so I could be very wrong, but I don't think that she's going to be able to do it. That fainting thing - sure, she probably was dehydrated from the flu just like they said, but it still indicates to me someone who's exhausted. At the end of the 2008 primary season she looked wrung out. She's been trying to say that she's tired. Really, really tired. No one, least of all Bill, wants to hear her. Some people can keep going at full speed forever, almost. Others need to slow down at a certain age. And that's people who just have normal lives and pressures.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)Hillary has had her heart set on it since the day Bill got elected.
You don't walk away from a shot at it.
Most assuredly not when you have as much going for you as she will have in 16.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,375 posts)● Don't count on it
● My reply is no
● My sources say no
● Outlook not so good
● Very doubtful
bunnies
(15,859 posts)it said : Outlook not so good. True story.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)over Benghazi.
Trust me:
McCain is peeing just a little bit every time the Repubs tell the press they won't approve Whats-his-name for SOS until Hillary testifies.
Benghazi is all about 2016 and the Dems not being tough enough on National Security.
And their smear of Hillary is going to be front and center.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hillary was not a "flawed" candidate in 2008, her campaign may have had flaws, but Hillary hasn't changed. Some people's perceived opinion of her may have changed, but she's still the same smart, warm, funny and self deprecating woman people close to her have known for years.
As for her interest in women and children issues, she has been involved in these issues since she was in her 20s. I do hope that when Kerry takes over as SOS he continues her work in these areas. There is still much work to be done.
Hopefully, after some time to rest and reflect, she decides to run in 2016.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)And this is coming from one of her fiercest opponents in 2008.
In 2016, we all need her to run and win.