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In reply to the discussion: Why is everyone in an uproar? [View all]Yorkie Mom
(16,420 posts)As Joe has said before, words matter. It was so bad that Biden's team walked it back yesterday and his Secretary of State did this morning.
Did Joe say what most of us think? Yes. Should he have said what he did on the international state? No. Why else would he have walked it back? This isn't 20 dimensional chess.
Just last Friday Russia General Staff limited its war aims in Ukraine, thereby limiting the conflict. The very next day Joe with his gaffe makes the conflict unlimited.
We know that Putin has been obsessed with regime change led by the United States. Remember what he did to Hillary back in 2016 as payback?
Putin has no reason to negotiate for peace at this point.
Also, remember that Putin said he would use nukes when Russia is facing an existential threat". Does anyone not think US led regime change (which is probably how this was perceived in Russia) is an "existential threat"?
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What do other leaders think of Biden's gaffe?
Macron
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China
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UK
Note to anyone reading this: Don't come at me with "you don't support the President". That's utter bs. I supported Joe even before the primaries started. He screwed up with a "gaffe" as he is know for, but he did it on the international stage here. I can recognize that and still support our president.