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edisdead

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80. The alternative is what?

Wed May 1, 2024, 10:36 PM

May 1

For Israel to just keep getting attacked? I don’t like Israel’s reaponse as it has unfolded. But it sure seems like people think that Israel shoukd either just continue to take it until sometime or they should commit to boots on the ground meaning more Israeli death because of something that Hamas started. I do have to call bullshit on the “Gazans are to weak to do anything about Hamas”. Sorry that argument doesn’t fly with me. First, because ues many if them DID cheer the attack and Secondly because Hamas continuously put THEM in harms way through their actions through the years. It had beeb 18 years and I don’t remember a cry for international assistance in changing their situation. I could be wrong but I honestly do not. Now that THEIR government put THEM in harms way by attacking and provoking a much stronger opponent the tears are flowing.

Look the killing if the women and children is unjust. It is a fucking tragedy. But what did they think was eventually going to happen. Israel has to live every single day with their neighbors threatening to wipe them off the planet. And then this group of fucking cowards comes in and massacres their people. What the fuck did people think would happen???

Nobody is holding Hamas accountable for the fallout of THEIR actions. Nobody. It is fucking weird.

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2006 - Hamas was elected the majority in Parliament (Gaza went solidly to them) [View all] AZLD4Candidate May 1 OP

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Wikipedia is kooky content? These Hamas supporters are like the CCP wu mao. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #2

A form of deny deny deny.. can't Cha May 1 #17

So half the population of Gaza was not born yet in 2006 womanofthehills May 1 #27

And all that time edhopper May 1 #59

Doesn't matter MichMan May 1 #74

This is the kooky-ness that should be alerted on. edisdead May 1 #79

It's completely insane to me that people find this acceptable in any way. ColinC May 1 #86

Blockade enid602 May 2 #101

History is kooky now? Coventina May 1 #3

It challenges confirmation bias of "Israel evil." AZLD4Candidate May 1 #6

Can't imagine what is "kooky" about the OP. wnylib May 1 #9

Perhaps the implication that a population is equally liable for the actions of their government? ColinC May 2 #89

Point taken. It is an incorrect assumption, and would be the same as saying wnylib May 2 #92

Yes exactly! Thank you for the kind response. ColinC May 2 #94

Would that have been in January of 2003? wnylib May 2 #104

it was bogus. I suspect some don't understand what it means to be on a jury. It doesn't mean what you JohnSJ May 1 #56

I find it difficult to believe this was alerted under the B.See May 1 #63

Post removed Post removed May 1 #67

Same. I think it's an important post. Nt. hardluck May 1 #85

Yep, and immediately put an end to... Think. Again. May 1 #4

So why is Fatah considered the government of Palestine ripcord May 1 #5

72 out of the 132 Parliament seats are in the hands of Hamas. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #7

I suppose that is as good a reason to become a dictator as any ripcord May 1 #10

Hitler, Duvalier, Amin and many others used democracy and voting to undermine it and establish dictaorships AZLD4Candidate May 1 #11

But the majority of Palestinians want elections because they aren't happy with Abbas ripcord May 1 #16

Hamas is in control. They have no voice. And if they speak up, like all other groups and people like that, they get AZLD4Candidate May 1 #23

My apologies, I thought the post was about... Think. Again. May 1 #8

The West Bank? Prendy May 1 #57

Perhaps you misread this... Think. Again. May 1 #60

What are the numbers edhopper May 1 #62

Here is the full report from the original source... Think. Again. May 1 #66

An increase of support edhopper May 1 #68

the report goes on to say... Think. Again. May 1 #70

Distinction Without A Difference, Sir The Magistrate May 1 #82

That's about the same percentage in America that supported the invasion of Iraq ColinC May 1 #87

The study was conducted by... Think. Again. May 2 #90

So on Oct 7 edhopper May 1 #61

Don't know if that can be answered... Think. Again. May 1 #65

We elected terrorists (imho) in our government before too ColinC May 1 #12

Where were you Oct 7th when the Hamas government attacked Israel? AZLD4Candidate May 1 #13

I do not and will not punish innocent people for the actions of their government. ColinC May 1 #25

First, it's My Lai. Second, when the truth was discovered were punished, though only Lt. Calley went to prison for it AZLD4Candidate May 1 #31

Making excuses for terrorism and trivializing it is the very reason we are here ColinC May 1 #35

blocked. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #39

👍 ColinC May 1 #41

The alternative is what? edisdead May 1 #80

That is a separate issue. My point is that nearly all democratic governments have engaged in some morally objectionable ColinC May 1 #84

The Israeli's are tying very hard to get rid of Hamas. jimfields33 May 1 #40

They are unfortunately going beyond that ColinC May 1 #42

"...they want to eradicate the vast majority of the population..." maxsolomon May 1 #49

" logistically impossible without a massive famine or saturation bombing" ColinC May 1 #55

Of course the majority of those killed by bombs are civilians. You don't need to provide evidence for that. maxsolomon May 1 #73

You said "mass famine and saturation bombing" ColinC May 1 #77

They are not clearly happening. maxsolomon May 2 #100

The president of the United States believe that the indiscriminate bombing needs to stop ColinC May 2 #102

there need to b new elections in all of israel. mopinko May 1 #14

And there will be. And if Israel re-elects Bibi, they are fucking idiots AZLD4Candidate May 1 #15

Israel had their last general election in 2022. Their next general election is scheduled by 27 October 2026 LeftInTX May 1 #19

His government will fall well before then. tritsofme May 1 #37

He has been there done that and Bettie May 1 #64

Netanyahu has never been anywhere near this unpopular. Benny Gantz will be the next prime minister tritsofme May 2 #95

Heard that last time around Bettie May 2 #97

I'm not sure who told you that last time? I certainly wouldn't have bet against him in the previous elections. tritsofme May 2 #98

the calls r getting louder. mopinko May 1 #48

Please change "we Jews" to "this Jew" because "this Jew" disagrees with your OP. Thanks. Nanjeanne May 1 #18

Nope. Never Again applies to all Jews. Sorry you disagree. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #22

Oh please do not keep putting words in my mouth. You whole OP is a rant I don't agree with. But what the hell. Nanjeanne May 1 #28

you are way out over your skis when you try to insinuate that Nanjeanne said anything remotely close to this: Celerity May 1 #50

Thanks for your support and sanity. We are in a strange land now. And the poster knew damn Nanjeanne May 1 #75

You.Are.Out.Of.Line. TheCynic56 May 2 #103

We may agree on Gaza but that last retort of yours is pretty darn nasty itself. marble falls May 3 #107

Nothing justifies what Israel is doing to the people of Gaza Chautauquas May 1 #20

Nothing justified Oct 7th and 75 years of terrorist attacks. You are awfully quiet about those AZLD4Candidate May 1 #21

No I'm not Chautauquas May 1 #24

War sucks. don't want one then don't start one. Ask my wife's family about that. The Japanese brutalized them AZLD4Candidate May 1 #26

We are fighting a losing cause here now. I can't anymore. But bless you for trying. Nanjeanne May 1 #30

You are correct Goddessartist May 1 #54

Ok, the people of Gaza support Hamas. Kill them all? Voltaire2 May 1 #29

Hamas attacked the humanitarian pier the US is building. The IDF is providing protection for it. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #33

So let's go bomb some kids, rite? ExciteBike66 May 1 #32

You have proof of this, right? Israel is intentionally targetting children. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #34

Any bombing of a largely populated area is intentionally bombing children ColinC May 2 #91

Hamas won the election.... bad on those voters. albacore May 1 #36

Wow. Do you have proof Israel is intentionally doing that? AZLD4Candidate May 1 #44

Our last shipment of arms including 1800 2,000lb bombs and 500 500 lb unguided bombs.... albacore May 1 #71

Still haven't proven they are intentionally targeting civilians. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #72

I wouldn't be able to prove to YOU that they are targeting civilians no matter what proof I have or don't have. albacore May 1 #76

Interesting take. blame Israel for Hamas' use of civilians as human shield. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #78

Never said that....and you know it. The Israelis know that Hamas is mixed with civilians, and yet they use.. albacore May 1 #88

So, the IDF has a choice? Use bombs and limited THEIR casulties, or do brutal urban warfare and increase the body count AZLD4Candidate May 2 #93

War is hell. By your logic, the cops in your home town should just bomb a house that might have bad guys inside.. albacore May 2 #99

Prove the genocide. Prove they are intentional slaughtering everyone. AZLD4Candidate May 3 #106

It's a moot point now... PeaceWave May 1 #38

You have proof of that? You can see the future? If you do, I'd like the lottery numbers please. AZLD4Candidate May 1 #43

Doesn't really count... a huge % or that vote was just JCMach1 May 1 #45

Victim blaming much? Mad_Machine76 May 1 #46

We had a revolution for a reason. edisdead May 1 #81

I would like to think that we would all revolt and rebel if that happened Mad_Machine76 May 2 #96

Israel is at war with Hamas. Do you have evidence ISrael is purposely destroying all Palestinians AZLD4Candidate May 3 #105

2006 was the last election, and a supermajority in Gaza in October were not alive then obamanut2012 May 1 #47

Rec. nt LexVegas May 1 #51

Truly vile Prairie Gates May 1 #52

how many of the citizenry voted in 2006? That WhiteTara May 1 #53

There were serious questions about that elections, and accusation of threats of violence toward those who JohnSJ May 1 #58

According to this survey edhopper May 1 #69

And yet, H2O Man May 1 #83