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proverbialwisdom

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22. Other relevant examples of documented overt 'data manipulation.'
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:04 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Overview: http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/cdc-frauds-connections-between-the-destefano-paper-and-the-thorsen-affair.html
Brick, NJ (1997), DeStefano, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsopp (the CDC's lead autism epidemiologist): http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=184693
Boyle: http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/09/agent-orange-corporatism-government-coleen-boyle-and-autism.html

REASONS FOR OPTIMISM:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/our-story-so-far-both-mmr-mercury-laced-vaccines-cause-autism.html

(ignore the title)
By Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism
Posted by Age of Autism at August 28, 2014


...Thompson himself reported that he was under tremendous pressure to absolve thimerosal at all costs and run and rerun the analyses to remove the association between thimerosal exposure and tics.

Consequently, when the severely compromised manuscript was submitted to the New England Journal of Medicine for consideration for publication, it was soundly rejected with the following comments from the peer reviewers: (BRAVO REVIEWERS 1, 2, 3, although I don't pretend to understand their analyses)

Reviewer 1: In this paper, the authors seem to be hoping for and wanting to demonstrate lack of relationships. When a relationship does emerge, the authors essentially downplay it, even though…a) The authors argue for how strong the dataset is earlier in the paper and b) the authors explain why SEM is superior to alternative analytic techniques.

Reviewer 2: The authors’ conclusion that “thimerosal is not a major causal agent for tic disorders (p. 13),” is not in accordance with their own data. That is, it is not reasonable, on the one hand, to argue that the use of SEM reduces the probability of Type I error, and then, on the other hand, to ignore the one significant, positive finding because of “the lack of biological plausibility of such a relationship.”

Reviewer 3: In general, the arguments presented on page 13 that findings on the tic outcome variable were not seen as sufficiently persuasive to completely dismiss those findings. Only one citation is provided. Further, in the absence of complete heritability, evidence of heritability does not (as the authors seem to suggest), rule out gene-by-environment interactions or even direct environmental effects...If the authors are to convince skeptical professionals, parents, or public policy-makers of their point, they would be well-advised to address the purported mechanisms of effect that have been proposed.

The manuscript was then submitted to and rejected by the Journal of the American Medical Association before it was finally picked up by the Journal of Pediatrics Psychology and was published in 2012.

That whole anecdote with imthevicar paraphrasing Dawkins comes to mind. SCIENCE RULES.
There was a fairly recent interview with Rob't Kennedy Jr... nikto Aug 2014 #1
Let the science speak? jakeXT Aug 2014 #2
You're probably thinking of thimerosal, and it hasn't been in MMR vaccines for 13 years muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #3
I think he says produced in the US sold to the world jakeXT Aug 2014 #4
That seems irrelevant - Kennedy is producing profoundly misinformed listeners on purpose muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #5
He has no credibility in the legitimate press on this issue. eom Blanks Sep 2014 #28
If thimerasal was banned only 13 years ago, freedom fighter jh Aug 2014 #7
Autism diagnoses have continued to rise after that date muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #8
Will that narrative hold if the scientific evidence is scrutinized? That's the debate now, isn't it? proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #15
Your OP seems to say the scientific evidence has held up, yet again muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #16
No, OP is CNN's article about new science & heroic CDC whistleblower, Dr. William W. Thompson, PhD. proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #19
ELI LILLY Corp would back you up all the way nikto Sep 2014 #24
You have misspoken. As a live virus vaccine, MMR has never contained thimerosal. proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #13
Fair enough - that's sort of covered under 'or more' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #14
This seems to syncronize with what some veteran teachers I know have been saying nikto Sep 2014 #23
It was never in the MMR Warpy Sep 2014 #26
If people are telling him that the largest exposure to mercury is vaccines, Thor_MN Aug 2014 #6
Common mistake FarrenH Aug 2014 #10
A little science here-NaCl is an ionic bond--The strongest type of chemical bond known to science... nikto Sep 2014 #25
Ionic bonds are not the strongest bonds... Blanks Sep 2014 #29
Thanks FarrenH Sep 2014 #31
ELI LILLY CORP will cease to exist if liability is ever established nikto Sep 2014 #32
How about real science, not the "vaccines cause autism" bullshit? Archae Aug 2014 #9
That's the one I was looking for on this thread... Blanks Sep 2014 #30
This is a story about the crank study being withdrawn mathematic Aug 2014 #11
CNN added fuel to the fire Kelvin Mace Aug 2014 #12
They'd get more Hg from fish SansACause Aug 2014 #17
I notice no mention of the MAIN Cause of Increase in Mercury, Coal happyslug Aug 2014 #18
CDC Responds to Allegation it Omitted Vaccine-Autism Study Link proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #20
The "established" science? Independent media examines one source, Poul Thorsen, indicted in 2011. proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #21
Other relevant examples of documented overt 'data manipulation.' proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #22
The cui bono is ENORMOUS nikto Sep 2014 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #33
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