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March 12, 2003

If there's one piece of hate mail that comes up again and again, it's the one asking why we don't respond with facts to the cretins who write telling us to fuck off. "I read your hate mail and I notice you did not respond to any of the authors with FACTS." Uh, really. Well for those of you who are disappointed that we don't respond to threats and insults with facts, you're colossal dickheads. Note: these emails have not been edited in ANY WAY, except to preserve the anonymity of the sender.


Define "Legitimate Debate"
From: "Marc --------" <--------@townandhome.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:40:48 -0800
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: hatemail

Hey-

I notice that you haven¹t updated the hatemail since last year. ŒWhatsa matter, you afraid of legitimate debate slipping through your Iron Curtain? BWAHAHAHAHHAHAA!

I hope you enjoy the next 6 years of W , you assholes.

Marc --------

California

DU RESPONDS: Okay Marc, let's see what we have for you...


Legitimate Debate
From: jarrod <-------@optonline.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:41:47 -0500
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Fucking scumbags

We are going to WAr wether you like it or not and this country and the world is behind it, YOU LOSE SCUMBAGS your irrelavant.

DU RESPONDS: I assume that you WOULD have shipped out to Iraq so you could fight alongside our brave soldiers, but don't tell me, you have an old masturbation injury which prevented you from signing up. Right?


More Legitimate Debate
From: "Mark ------" <-------@attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:32:41 -0500
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Fuck You Liberal Asshole

Eat Shit and Die Liberal Fuck Head.

DU RESPONDS: Congratulations on managing to squeeze in a couple of polysyllabic words!


The Last Word In Legitimate Debate
From: "jim----" <-------@zianet.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:44:32 -0700
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: lost again

Just one wrong keystoke away and Lincoln wouild've lost Gettysburg. Anyway, you are finish end of process. That's knowm as HORSESASS.

DU RESPONDS: You, sir, are the smart.


Ooh, That's Savage
From: ---------@webtv.net (Terry -------)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:20:22 -0600 (CST)
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Mad TV

I like their skit of O'reilly Factor.If he is anything like they portray him as then he must really be great.I also love the way they spoof the liberal hollywood actors.By the way,Michael Savage's book "The Savage Nation" hit nuber one.What do you have to say about that?
Terry

DU RESPONDS: Of course it got to "nuber" one. The "illiterate fascist" demographic is clearly a huge buying base. I assume the book has a lot of pictures?


A Lesson In Getting It Wrong
From: "Leo -------" ------------@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:21:25 -0600
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Move

People like you need to move out of the country. The reason that Sept. 11th happened in the first place was because the Clinton era gave birth to the era of "do nothing and nothing will happen to you". This also happened before WWII when many like yourselves criticized those in the government who were suspicious of Hitler and gave him many more years to have free reign. Leftwing tree huggers have been putting this country into the toilet for years. You could have a video tape in your hands right now that has Usama and Saddam talking about their plans in detail and you would still find things to criticize. If you really think that the Iraq situation is a "republican" thing and that doing nothing to Saddam is the best advice then I can only assume that this site is run by 12 year olds. You have wanted Bush to fail since day one, it wouldn't matter what he did, you would complain because that is what Democrats do.

-Leo

DU RESPONDS: You got us, Leo. Great Republican leaders like Orrin Hatch and Trent Lott really wanted us to crack down on terrorism, but that rotten Bill Clinton was too busy doing nothing. You know what else, I heard the other day that Clinton's mighty penis caused the Space Shuttle disaster (pass that along to your buddies if you have any).


A Huge Mistake
From: "Jim ----" <-----@------.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:08:28 -0700
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Liberal Radio

I hope the rich dems create Liberal Radio - I plan to star a HUGH campaign to go after their advertisers and do everything possible to break them. Just like you all do to Rush. Turnabout is fair play.....

DU RESPONDS: Cool! You could get Hugh Grant, Hugh Downs, Hugh Hefner, Hugh Jackman, D.L. Hughley, Howard Hughes...


Independently Dumb
From: -------------@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:51:49 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Hate Mail

I'm torn between being amused by you chattering idiots and saddened by your ignorance.

Nowhere on this site do you present logical arguments to support your beliefs. You are vulgar, obnoxious, and misinformed. You make decisions based on your feelings and initial reactions. You are whiners. You are close minded and intolerant.

As a human being, I pity your bitterness and stupidity. As an Independent, I giggle at the prospect of watching you get squished by conservatives who know why they believe what they do, even if they're wrong.

Zots all around,

*an American woman

DU RESPONDS: Gawd, if there's one thing worse than Republicans it's "Independents." Come on, you're nothing but a Republican who thinks that the Independent label makes you look smarter! Just admit it! You'll feel so much better about yourself!


Boudelang, I Presume
From: "--- -----" <--------@carolina.net>
Reply-To: "--- ---" <--------@carolina.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 00:47:50 -0500
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: About Boudlange

Sorry about the spelling...however since I know this is a person that has never been a conservative nor a Republican supporter, seems this person that writes this e-zine column is doing so under false assumptions.TALKING ABOUT BOUDELANGE OR WHATEVER...

Judy - -------

--@-------.net

DU RESPONDS: What do you mean, Bob Boudelang isn't a conservative? Why, just last week I saw him beating a black man.


Philosophize This
From: From: "Lloyd -----" <---------@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:38:02 -0500
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Aristotle....

Aristotle, considered by many to be one of the greatest thinkers ever, believed democracy was one of the lowest forms of government. I tend to agree, especially when I read the ridiculous BS that is on your RETARDED web site. One day I hope the good people of the U.S. round up assholes like you and put them in front of a firing squad.

DU RESPONDS: And Aristotle believed that the HIGHEST form of government was monarchy, followed by aristocracy, you twit. Is that the country you want to live in? Royal America, where the divinely-chosen King has the power to round people up and shoot them? That unpleasant sound I hear must be the Founding Fathers puking in their graves.


This Is Why We Don't Bother Refuting People's Arguments
From: -------@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:32:01 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: George Bush

I hate to tell you, but I support him 100%. I also am happy to say it because I am soooooooooo glad to have a President with soul, conviction and decency.,that it is a relief to get to say it. You can have the Clintons all day long, but they to me are a disgusting. power grabbing couple who will stop at nothing. WHY don't you see this? THAT is the scary part. PLEASE.....re-think your politics.!!

DU RESPONDS: You know, sometimes I just like to put a trashcan over my head and then run as fast as I can into a wall. Ever tried that? It feels pretty good. Or you could get someone to hit the trashcan as hard as possible with a bat. It'll make your ears ring though, so be careful!


Death Wish
From: --------@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:05:41 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: LOST SOULS OF THE LEFT WING

THE SOONER YOU DIE THE BETTER FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DU RESPONDS: Sorry pal, but believe it or not the Admins of DU are actually immortal.


Death Wish Part 2
From: "j ------" <-------@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 23:58:39 +0000
To: mail@DemocraticUnderground.com
Subject: Hate mail for you

Greetings DU! While visiting your highly informative website I saw the portal to "hate mail" and decided THAT was where I should address this to. Being a kind hearted type, I'd like to say I hate you all in the kindest and nicest way I can, and sincerely hope none of you suffer much when you kill yourselves. Hopefully soon.

OH, one thing. Please think of the rest of us and refrain from muddying up the gene pool before you go will you?. Thanks. I'd love to talk more, but I have to go now. Bye Bye. Hate all of you. Don't forget to die soon! Don't delay, kill yourselves tonight and do the world a favor! Do it for the children! Bye Bye. Wishing you all a short and happy life. Really wish I had more time. TTFN!

DU RESPONDS: As I already mentioned, the Admins of this site are actually immortal. But I also forgot to mention that we have three hundred and fifty eight children between us, and they're all on welfare. Sorry about that!


Oh To Be A Fan Of A Fifth-Rate Propagandist
From: "Boo!" ---@atlantic.net
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:22:55 -0500
To: admin@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Can't take it?

Neal Boortz was right! I didn't believe him. You guys just can't take it can you? What a bunch of WIMPS!!!!!!!!

DU RESPONDS: Neal Who said what now?


Pass The Crisco
From: "------" <---------@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:24:17 -0500
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Jesus is coming!!!!

Your lies,deceit, and hatefulness of life(abortion) is only a fulfillment of prophecies by Jesus Himself.Your support of anti-semitism is only sparking His impending anger and wrath upon this world.REPENT!!!Before its too late.You can't stop what is going to happen in this world.None of your protests,none of your handwringing,nothing.Democrats are nothing more than an incarnation of the anti-christ,atheistic,communist beliefs of every totalitarian government out there.Its good people don't trust G.W.At least its breaking the proverbial umbilical cord that the Democrats want so much for every American to feed on.If you think prosperity comes from fat,bloated,racist,beligerent politicians getting B.J.'sfrom interns,your sadly mistaken.REPENT!!!!!

DU RESPONDS: Dear Mr. Ashcroft, shouldn't you be out catching terrorists or something? I would think that the attorney general of the United States would have better things to do than send threatening letters to liberal websites. Tsk tsk. Shame on you.


Hilarious Accidental Fascist Self-Identification
From: -------------@alltel.com
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:40:18 -0500
To: mail@DemocraticUnderground.com
Subject: love the comedy

I was going to say something critical but it hard to type when your laughing this hard. Only in America....

Remember, If you were some where else, You'd be in a gulag or lined up for a firing squad....

DU RESPONDS: I don't want to hurt your brain, but by that logic, you'd be wearing a brown shirt and licking the Fuhrer's boots.


I've Been Hornswaggled!
From: "Eric -----" <--------@giantspider.biz>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:06:03 -0500
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Frequent Liar Miles

Your article "frequent liar miles" made me laugh. Most of the article is spent assuring us that Bush is a liar because the author of the artcle says so. Then, the author pulls out Bush's drunk driving conviction and "no proof of weapons in Iraq." We've heard these two charges many times before; they're old, and most of us who support Bush are unswayed by them. The author is a writer for the New York Times and quotes from CNN, two of the most ridiculously left slanting news outlets in the United States. The reporters for these sources freely editorialize without warning in an effort to hornswaggle the unwashed masses.

You didn't sway me. From what I've seen, George Bush is pretty honest. Your hate mail about how I'm a moron who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground is eagerly awaited. Democrats are exceptionally predictable. Apparently your anti-conservative views didn't help you much in the last mid-term election.

Regards,
the giantspider

DU RESPONDS: Well I wouldn't want to disappoint. You're a moron who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Happy now?


Udderly Bizzare
From: -------@cs.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:47:14 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: RE: Membership

Please remove my name from your membership list. I have no desire to have any connection with a organization of hypocrites, that preach one thing but practice another.
You rally against censorship, yet you practice censorship.
You removed one of my messages as unacceptable because of my use of the terms cow-udders and Full Monty.
According to my Webster Dictionary neither the word "cow"or the word "udder" is listed as obscene. Neither are they consider to be scatological, salacious or pornographic.
If my opinion of women's breast, is that they appear to be as "cow-udders", that is my constitutional right to express that opinion. If women get their balls in a snarl because I call their breast "cow udders" that is their problem. They have no constitutional right to abridge my constitutional right of free speech. I suggest they go over to the freeper web-site where they are all for censorship as long as it is for someone else other than themselves.
As for my comment "Full Monty", that too, is not either scatological , salacious, or pornographic. A few years ago those very words were splash across every movie marquee in every city in the U.S.A.
I have a gut feeling that the real reason for the removal of "Full Monty" is because it labeled me a homosexual. You claim to support gays then you discriminat against me.
You did not remove those message where hetrosexual wax euphorically over the thought of naked women's breast. That make you hypocrites.
Don't bother dunning me for donations. I will never give you pack of lying hypocrites one thin dime.
You want donations? Fuck you!! go beg somewhere else!

DU RESPONDS: Aw, come on. Spare some change for a hungry webmaster? I promise we won't remove any more of your Consitutionally-protected cow udder messages from our discussion board. You enormous weirdo.


Oh The Irony: O'Reilly Fan Accuses Us Of Propaganda
From: "-------, Steve" <-------@mail.smu.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:57:18 -0600
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Bill O'Reilly

I just read your little column on Bill O'Reilly.

I've never seen him "viciously berate" immigrants. He does question whether it is safe or wise to have a near constant and unchecked influx of illegal immigrants, especially at a time when we are dealing with terrorism.

So...uh...nice propaganda. Get real.

Steven -------

DU RESPONDS: Yes, uh-huh, and I guess he didn't refer to Mexicans as "wetbacks" either.


The Definition Of Bigotry
From: Russell ------ <-------@qwest.com>
Organization: Qwest Communications International, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:06:59 -0700
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Question for the Dems

Why is it even though there are a few democrats that are not faggots, all faggots are democrats? Is it just a requirement of perverts that they be democrats, or is it simply that the democratic party just seeks out perverts? Everyone knows that you have to be a total idiot to be a democrat, but why perverts as well?

DU RESPONDS: Very funny, Russell. But you won't be laughing when we take over this country and pass a law requiring the forced buggery of all white men.


Hi! My Name Is Disgruntled
From: ---------------@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:53:02 EST
To: admin@democraticunderground.com
Subject: reinstate

Progressive change may only come through intellectual debate. Your hypocrisy is noted and will be known through as many venues as possible. YOUR SITE IS ANYTHING BUT DEMOCRATIC, and will infamously be known as such when I get to writing articles of this blatantly biased site.

DU RESPONDS: Oooh, look out! I smell a blog! We're trembling!


Whoops, I've Been Brainwashed
From: ---------@cs.com
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:17:57 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: Hate Mailbag

I see that you've managed to acquire a few hateful letters from conservatives, but they rate NOTHING like the drivel and bile that is spewed out daily by Daschle, Gebhardt, and the Clintons, not to speak of the bias of CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC.

Keep trying. You're PATHETIC. And one more thing -- you give tax cuts to people who PAY taxes -- I guess all of you were asleep when you were attending your government indoctrination schools. How do you give a tax cut to someone who doesn't PAY taxes?

DU RESPONDS: You mean like Enron, who didn't pay taxes for four years by laundering their money through offshore accounts, and then tried to grab $254 million in special tax breaks? Sounds fair. And I hate to tell you this, but income tax isn't the ONLY tax people pay, you know. Although I guess Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are happy to have you believe that.


Break Out The Swastika
From: "glorianne ------" <---------@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 18:46:27 -0700
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: confederate flag!!

A flag is a flag... it does not mean slavery or anything obscene.
here in utah and wyoming there are alot of people that wave the
confederat flag as a matter of pride in the south..where our ancestors
came from and alot were not much better off than the SLAVES .
sorry for their plight..but not my design nor my deal..We as a people
have the right to fly any flag as we choose and along with MY STATE
FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES STARS AND STRIPS, I FLY THE STARS AND BARS TOO.
for those who ask..I have black cousins and uncles.
the american indians who were so downtrodden in this country do not object.
g.kesler

DU RESPONDS: 1) A flag is a flag? Tell that to Hitler. 2) You must be very proud of the Confederacy if you've fooled yourself into thinking that Utah and Wyoming were part of it. 3) STRIPES. 4) When you say, "downtrodden," do you mean, "massacred?"


Short And To The Point
From: "----------, Adam" <Adam.----------@dgs.ca.gov>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:37:26 -0800
To: "'mail@democraticunderground.com'" <mail@democraticunderground.com>

Terrible website!

DU RESPONDS: Up yours, numbnuts!


Even Shorter But Still To The Point
From: "Allen ------" <-------@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 04:40:11 -0800
To: mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: HI

YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!

DU RESPONDS: That's right, and your mother!


RTFM
From: john ----- <John_-----@go.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:53:04 -0800 (PST)
To: admin@democraticunderground.com
Subject: The purpose of you forum?

is questionable. To be locked out after two posts without reason is a joke. Perhaps you should change the title to the Socialistunderground or Marxistunderground. I'll spread the word for you. The truth shall set you free. ;)

Respectfully, John -----.

DU RESPONDS: Tell you what, we'll change our name to Marxist Underground if you change your name to John I'm A Dumb Conservative Who Should Have Read The Rules Before I Signed Up. Deal?


Stroke Me, Dick
From: "Pace Maker1" <----------@-----.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:46:54 -0500
To: <admin@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Nice

I come to the board to give it a little flavor and you can't take it. So I'm banned. if you failed to notice people were responding to my posts and we were have decent debates.

Guess you don't want to debate. You just want other democrats stroke you dick.

Figures.

DU RESPONDS: Well we like a bit of flavor, but not when it tastes like someone else's vomit.


A Dumb Question From A Dumb Ass
From: ------------@aol.com
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:42:45 EST
To: mail@democraticunderground.com
Subject: occupation of

Do the democrats really believe in a socialist government and not a democratic republic?

DU RESPONDS: Uh... okay, sure! Whatever you say!


Clinton: Obsession Or Addiction?
From: "Paul" <----------@snet.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:56:52 -0500
To: <mail@democraticunderground.com>
Subject: Powell

Stumbled on your "High Plains Grifter" rant re: Colin Powell and was amused at his being dubbed by you as the "chairman of public appeasement. Did you forget about the great William Jefferson Clinton.

DU RESPONDS: Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. Is that all you guys ever think about? Do you see him hiding around every corner? Does he haunt your dreams? I dunno, if I was you I'd probably WANT to forget about the great William Jefferson Clinton. Unlike the current president, he managed peace, prosperity, balanced budgets, lower poverty and child poverty rates, 21 million new jobs, 50,000 new teachers, 100,000 new cops, the lowest crime rate in 25 years, greater worker protections, the highest home ownership rate in history, the protection of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security... Mind you, he did also have a penis, the evil bastard.



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