Morning Joe -John Kasich is an efn idiot

[LiberalFighter]

Says the TFS trial won't impact the election.
He makes shit up.
Says we have two wars. We are not at war.
During TSF we were in Afghanistan.
Says people had it better economically under Trump. Sure prices were lower during the pandemic because businesses lowered prices to sell.

Kasich never ran for President in the general.

[spanone]

1. I turn the channel whenever they have him on....

[Upthevibe]

2. LiberalFighter......

I agree with you.

I saw him on a show a couple of weeks ago and he said a couple of things that upset me.

Thanks for your post!

[hlthe2b]

3. So, he's back to endorsing TSF? (He backed Biden in 2020)

[cachukis]

4. He is all that, no question.

But, he speaks republican. They twist themselves, David Brooks like, to justify the opposition as the enemy.
They are a machine guided by a psyops of motivated money.
Honor and good looks only go so far to respond.

[Wounded Bear]

5. He's not backing trump, but he was pointing out all the "difficulties" the Dems have...

He spouted the old "it's the economy, stupid" line from Clinton and studiously ignored the women's issues like abortion and general women's healthcare. He's still an old guard republican.

[LiberalFighter]

10. His campaign against Trump in 2016 was a failure.

He didn't know the issues then. So why would he know now?

[TxGuitar]

27. Right. And getting on tv now to criticize Biden

Is essentially him working for Trump. Sick of seeing that fucker Kasich being normalized. He's a POS republican fascist through and through.

[brooklynite]

6. I would agree with him.

Committed Biden and Trump voters are already locked in. Low-engagement voters aren't following the trial.

[SocialDemocrat61]

14. Yeah but you also thought Biden would lose New Hampshire

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218619929#op
And how did that turn out?
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/23/1225663027/joe-biden-wins-nh-primary-results

[brooklynite]

15. And the relevance of that is.....?

Are you claiming that undecided voters ARE following the trial?

[SocialDemocrat61]

16. I have no idea

if they are or not.

[LiberalFighter]

18. Trump has his nut base.

Put Republicans and some independents on a ten ruler. Put all of his nuts in the 9 to 10 inch band. The remaining fall anywhere from zero to nine. Each group will have voters that will not vote or not vote for Trump or Biden. Each of them will be a one vote gain for Biden.

There will likely be many that will vote for Biden for various reasons. Abortion, the hush money case even if it is a hung jury, his connection to Russia and opposition to Ukraine, his feelings about dead military, the January 6 attempt to overthrow the government, his intent to be a dictator, and more. Each one that votes for Biden will result in a two vote switch to Biden.

As for the trial. They all don't need to follow the trial. We are in the age of social medial. Many will know the results. Many will read the reports and or headlines. Local news fit some of it in their broadcasts. There will likely be third parties with campaign ads highlighting those issues. Both on the air and on social media.

[Liberal In Texas]

7. Apparently he hasn't heard of the SCOTUS and the anti-abortion ruling.

Because I didn't hear him put that into his important things voters will be voting on.

He's still a repub.

[LiberalFighter]

19. There are many issues.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. I agree

I listened to about 30 seconds and then muted the TV. Kasich is an idiot

[brush]

9. I watched and his whole diatribe was a collection of half truths and lies about Biden's poor chances...

in the coming election. One particular stupidity is Biden looks weak and trump looks strong. Yeah, sure, trump looks very strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out. And a porn star disclosing how she only had sex with him because he undress quickly while she was in the bathroom and what happened next was rape-adjacent.

That looks real strong of trump, sure Kascich, while Joe is out campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy. Kascich sure has a peculiar view of things.

And of course he never thought to mention the anti-abortion anvil around the necks of trump and other repug candidates in November. Women are still pissed.

[LiberalFighter]

20. I guess he hasn't seen Biden riding his bicycle.

Stood with auto workers on the picket line.

Or hasn't shoot any of his dogs.

[doc03]

11. I agree with one thing, the trial will have no impact on the election.

We do have an uphill climb, Biden has been under water his entire presidency. Then there
is worm for brains Kennedy. It doesn't look so good. Biden should be at least 10 points ahead.
Hopefully the polls are wrong.

[Demsrule86]

13. I don't agree at all...first of all after many discussions and flucuations...polls are meaningless. Let me tell you,

I worked on Obama's campaign...I wept when I saw the first internal polls. And yet, he won by 9:30 on election night. Also, I check the polls, and if Roe isn't included in the poll, I know it is bullshit...doom and gloom dampen the vote. I can say this unequivocally after a couple of decades of working campaigns. So have heart, we will win this election.

[LiberalFighter]

21. If the trial won't have an impact why is TSF fighting it?

There will be some that will not vote for him because of the trial. Even if all counts end up in a hung jury. But more than likely will be found guilty on some if not all.

The trial is not the only issue that will be of concern to voters. Some issues like abortion will play big. Some will be small but will still eat away votes from Trump. In some cases it will be a combination of issues.

Biden has not been underwater his whole presidency. You only feel that way because of what you think of current time.

Polls are useless at this time. And they are only nationwide polls. What are the questions used?

Keep in mind that Trump killed off over a million with Covid that won't be able to vote. And there are about six million that voted for him in 2020 age 65 or older that would be able to vote for him because they are dead.

[NanaCat]

22. You make a good point

We don't necessarily need one big thing to bring someone like TSF down. The accumulation of many small things can do the job, too.

Death by a thousand paper cuts is still death in the end.

[LiberalFighter]

23. It can also be brought up that most people are smarter than him.

He doesn't know the meaning of ambidextrous.

Do clips of him talking nonsense. Making words up.

By the way there must be something with the way he moves his hands when he talks.

[doc03]

25. I don't remember a time that Biden was over 50% unless his first few weeks. nt

[Cosmocat]

26. it is how it always is

Dem president objectively being successful, but the churn of relentless republican bullshit leads the dull masses to want to think something is horribly wrong.

I agree the trial itself won't effect anything, but if he is convicted it will flake a small group of those who are already close to having enough of him of him.

Still, I too don't like where this is at.

[Demsrule86]

12. Half my neighbors ended up at the food bank as there were massive layoffs...and unemploymnent took forever to come

through. Food was scarce as was toilet paper... Prices are up because of greed...not sure Biden can fix this. People should stop buying the shit. I only buy at the lowest price possible, and I don't buy convenience food or overpriced treats like Oreos. And of course, people were dying like flies due to Trump's incompetence.

[NanaCat]

24. I've all but stopped buying name-brand products

We're mostly fresh meat-and-veg types at Nana Manor, but we still buy a few treat-type products. Rarely name-brand, though.

We're lucky that our local store's house brand is almost always as good as the big name stuff, because newsflash: The big names often make the store brands, too. Not all, of course, but a surprising number of them are the exact same product inside; only the wrapper is different.

In most cases, I'll buy name-brand only if the store doesn't make its own version, or if there's a good sale. Otherwise, I pretty much ignore them. On the rare occasions when I notice the name brands at all, am always shocked at some of the prices. $5.50 for a bag of Funyuns? Bloody highway robbery for fried corn meal with onion powder on it. A small bag of corn meal and onion powder costs less than that--and you'll be making more than what's in one bag of Funyuns with it to boot.

Not that I eat Funyuns. It's simply one of the product prices that made me do a double-take so hard I got whiplash.

[karynnj]

17. On the economy, i hope the Democrats make it clear the unsustainable Trump tax cuts are on the ballot

Biden has SLIGHTLY changed the long term multi decade increase in the percent of money the top one percent gets. The percent is becoming more like that of a third world country, where a small portion of people are very wealthy and most are impoverished. The Trump taxes cuts contributed to that long term trend.

When the tax cut was implemented it was for a limited period of time because even with the assumed stimulation of the economy it was far too expensive if there were not an expiration. Yet, if Trump wins, it WILL be made permanent.

This will do two big things. It will explode the debt AND the cost of paying the interest on the debt. This will result in the second big thing. It will starve the government, limiting everything from subsidies for food etc, infrastructure improvements, and ACA and will lead to Republicans screaming that SS and Medicare are costing too much. Ignoring the reason for the budget deficits is that they cut the income (taxes). Amazingly, only the very top - say 10 percent at most benefit, while everyone else is harmed. ( In fact, many of the wealthy might not prefer the gated life they would need if this were a third world country.)

Just as democracy and abortion rights are on the ballot, so is economic justice.