Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Tom of Temecula

(1,446 posts)
Sat May 11, 2024, 09:02 AM May 11

A guilty verdict? Donald Trump and allies are bracing voters for the worst

When former president and 2024 candidate Donald Trump claims that the judicial system wants to put him in jail, he's not just protesting the ongoing hush money trial. Trump is also bracing voters for the possibility of a guilty verdict.

At political rallies, on social media, and to reporters gathered at the courthouse in New York, Trump's attacks on the trial are designed in part to persuade voters to disregard a bad verdict, according to aides, legal analysts, and a review of his remarks. "The New York judicial system has been absolutely abused," Trump told reporters Friday. "The whole world is watching."

Trump is accused of improperly influencing the 2016 presidential election by paying hush money to women, seeking to keep them from publicizing sexual liaisons. He has pleaded not guilty.

Trump has not explicitly said he expects a guilty verdict, and occasionally expresses public optimism about the outcome of the trial. "Many good things are going on in the case," the former said Thursday. But he has spent much more time claiming political bias by the judge, prosecutors and the jury pool, and argues without evidence that his political opponents will do anything to put him behind bars.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/11/trump-guilty-verdict-allies-prep-voters/73630657007/

16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

BoRaGard

(430 posts)
2. "Don't believe the foul stench infesting your schnozola." - Smelvis (R)
Sat May 11, 2024, 09:39 AM
May 11

"Many people say, "Sir, you're as sweet as a freshly laundered Dy-dee Diaper," believe me. I'm not lying, to tell you the truth. If you imagine you smell something fugging corrupt and rotten, then it's a lib plot. Trust me. Believe me. I'm a republican." - Smelvis (R)

Response to efhmc (Reply #5)

flying_wahini

(6,818 posts)
7. Like he thinks if he complains about being subjected to laws the rest of us follow....
Sat May 11, 2024, 10:54 AM
May 11

They will just let him slide. Right…..

Warpy

(111,663 posts)
9. I think this will result in a suspended sentence and a large fine
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:21 AM
May 11

which he'll appeal, of course. This isn't the one that will put him into jail, unfortunately.

What will put him there is the IRS going over his books and finding that he did deduct that repayment to Cohen as a legitimate legal expense. The IRS takes an extremely dim view of things like this and they always get their man, as mobsters who skated on every rap including murder eventually found out.

It's obviou the scholarly and deliberate Merrick Garland doesn't know what he's doing as AG, so don't expect any action from the DOJ until and unless he is replaced in a second Biden term.

meadowlander

(4,415 posts)
10. They'll just move the goal posts again.
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:27 AM
May 11

All the people saying now that a conviction might change their mind about voting for Trump are either straight up lying or, as soon as he is convicted, he will appeal and they'll say let's wait and see the outcome of the appeal before they change their mind.

Those people are just full of shit. Anyone with their eyes open knows everything they need to know about Trump right now. I think we're playing into their hands by pretending that a conviction in any of these cases should significantly change anyone's views. Better to focus on getting the facts we already know out there.

Nasruddin

(758 posts)
11. There's a low below
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:02 PM
May 11
Anyone with their eyes open knows everything they need to know about Trump right now.

I'm with you, but I think there are a lot of low, zero, and even negative- information voters out there.

drmeow

(5,067 posts)
13. You never know
Sat May 11, 2024, 05:44 PM
May 11

what will trigger a breakthrough when you are dealing with cult members. For some of them it might - people who reject the government may see a peer based jury verdict differently. Likely a very small minority but every cult member we can peel away is good.

republianmushroom

(14,383 posts)
12. If there is a verdict of not guilty or a hung jury,
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:38 PM
May 11

then and only then, the New York judicial system will have been absolutely abused !

Tickle

(2,651 posts)
16. He is doing things for his
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:31 AM
May 12

appeal. He knows he'll be convicted and is setting the stage for his appeals. I believe he wants to go to jail for sympathy to increase his base. He'll run his campaign from prison and then come back with prison reform or something crazy

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»A guilty verdict? Donald ...