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Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:19 PM

reps dont need a single dem to avoid shutdown

if anyone tells you its a dem shutdown, tell them that reps do not need a single dem to avoid shutdown. They only need simple majority that they have except that 4 reps voted for the shutdown. 60 votes threshold is a madeup rule has no mention in the constitution and they can easily change all the rules they want - they are the majority.

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Reply reps dont need a single dem to avoid shutdown (Original post)
AlexSFCA Jan 2018 OP
lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #1
unblock Jan 2018 #2
kentuck Jan 2018 #3
Demit Jan 2018 #4
unblock Jan 2018 #5
AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #6

Response to AlexSFCA (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:22 PM

1. we don't want them to change the rule

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Response to AlexSFCA (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:25 PM

2. They dont even have to go nuclear. They can just use reconciliation rules.

They’re too yellow to do that because they would have to pass a budget resolution first and they don’t want their name on the trillion dollar deficit they created.

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Response to unblock (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:26 PM

3. Yep.

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Response to unblock (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 05:21 PM

4. They already used reconciliation in order to pass the tax reform bill.

 

Under Senate rules, reconciliation can be used only once per fiscal year.

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Response to Demit (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 05:48 PM

5. hmm, looks like i goofed....

well it does appear that they did pass a budget resolution for fy2018.
not sure where i was told otherwise. anyway, you're right in that the tax bill was passed using reconciliation (which also means they must have passed a budget resolution).

however, they are allowed 3 reconciliation bills each fiscal year: one for spending, one for revenue, and one for debt ceiling.

i would think the tax bill would count as a revenue bill, which would leave republicans with the ability to pass one omnibus spending bill using reconciliation rules to keep the government running.

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Response to Demit (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 06:15 PM

6. they can change senate rules

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