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Remember, Rome burned. Down to the ground. (Original Post) Ninga Mar 2018 OP
Definitely NOT laughing. dchill Mar 2018 #1
But to paraphrase: "Rome wasn't burned in a day". BSdetect Mar 2018 #2
Who's laughing?! democratisphere Mar 2018 #3
Actually, it didn't. DetlefK Mar 2018 #4
I see. Thank you. In 2018 we have our own unique set of facts that point to the complete Ninga Mar 2018 #6
The Bishop of Rome might quibble with your last graf. Also... malchickiwick Mar 2018 #9
It was more like urban renewal FarCenter Mar 2018 #15
Sound a lot like USA actually. KPN Mar 2018 #16
The problem is. We've never been here before. People have no idea how much Ninga Mar 2018 #5
It's a hard reality to grasp. kentuck Mar 2018 #8
Found this article. Ninga Mar 2018 #11
1/3 of us do Cosmocat Mar 2018 #12
Yep. Spot on, well said. Ninga Mar 2018 #13
If you are talking about the Great Fire under Nero, Rome was ALREADY a dictatorship when it burned. malchickiwick Mar 2018 #7
Trump is a pro ... GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #10
It is has been developing at an exponential rate Cosmocat Mar 2018 #14

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
3. Who's laughing?!
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:42 AM
Mar 2018

drumpf thinks he should be dictator for life, then his daughter would take over from there. redumbliCONs are actually insane!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Actually, it didn't.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:45 AM
Mar 2018

Rome was spread out over seven hills. The rich lived on the hills, the poor lived on the swampy areas down-below. When Rome burned, only the poor quarters were hit.

The Roman Empire collapsed because their economy was built on pillaging foreign countries, not on taxation. Once there was nobody left to pillage (or strong enough to fend off the roman army), Rome could no longer afford to maintain it's army. It had to cede more and more territory and rely more and more on allies and mercenaries. Most notable were their german allies. Once the Roman Empire had shrunk so small that it was no longer noteworthy, the Germans staged a coup and simply took over.

From a major capital, Rome's status dropped to being a poverty-stricken ghetto. Many antique roman buildings were destroyed during that time due to neglect. It took many centuries before the city of Rome would become noteworthy again.

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
6. I see. Thank you. In 2018 we have our own unique set of facts that point to the complete
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:49 AM
Mar 2018

dismantling of our government as we have known it....burning democracy to ashes.
I'm not kidding.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
9. The Bishop of Rome might quibble with your last graf. Also...
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:53 AM
Mar 2018

...the Byzantines were looking for a shout-out.

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
5. The problem is. We've never been here before. People have no idea how much
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:47 AM
Mar 2018

dismantling has taken place, at breakneck speed.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
12. 1/3 of us do
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:01 AM
Mar 2018

1/3 see it and don't give a fuck because, "LIBERAL!"

1/3 have their heads stuck in the ground.

Unless that last 1/3 get in the game, we are going along for the ride.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
7. If you are talking about the Great Fire under Nero, Rome was ALREADY a dictatorship when it burned.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:50 AM
Mar 2018

The Senate and the people's assemblies had by that time become largely ceremonial.
In our case, we still have a chance to ensure OUR legislative bodies have the power to check an addled would-be despot.
November sixth, to be precise.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
14. It is has been developing at an exponential rate
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:03 AM
Mar 2018

my entire life, and hit warp speed when 45 came down the escalator.

I don't see how we turn it around.

our 1/3 cares.

Their 1/3 could give a fuck because "liberal!"

The middle 1/3 have their heads somewhere between up their asses and the ground.

Unless that final 1/3 gets into the game, we are fucked.

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