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The Toledo Blade identified the guard in the video as Tom Clingo, 32. Hes seen brutalizing a 16-year-old black girl who he suspected of stealing miscellaneous items.
The physical confrontation lasts more than five minutes, during which the security guard strikes the girl, chokes her, slams her to the floor and holds her down while waiting for police to show up.
There is a link at the bottom of the article that will take you to the full video.
MagickMuffin
(15,886 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Easier access to the vid.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)msongs
(67,193 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)They have instructions to observe only.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Kroger has been on a National Campaign to cleanup their Imagine in a effort to pull Minority Customers from Wal Mart and Albertson/Safteway.
Kiss that good bye.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Store Managers are going through after reading about this happening in one of their Stores.
March and April time frames are tough in Retail Groceries,and Managers are up for reviews in this time frame. That store Manger in Ohio will be reassigned if he worth his or her Salt,if not see you sucker. All in the Trainer of your Employees and that includes Security People.
Going to get expensive.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts). . .why would a security guard not just make observations and wait for the cops to arrive?
They get paid enough to get into a scrape and assume they can handle themselves? If they wrong, they get killed or the crap beat out of them for supermarket security pay?
That seems stupid.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I called it the Zimmerman complex above, and I think that holds true. Give someone like this a little authority. Put that person in a "situation". He overreacts because he thinks he has more authority than he really does and that it's down to him to save the store.
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)I had a shitty job in loss prevention. Not the job I wanted, but a college job is a college job. I worked at a Hermans Sporting Goods in College Park Maryland. People would put on shoes and try to run out of the store, grab high end items and walk out like it belonged to them to only return it 20 minutes later and fight over their right to return what is stolen. It was the job I had to pay my tuition and I took pride in my job.
This poor fool tried to stop someone from stealing and if you watch the front end of it, there was a second person who looked to be twice his size trying to run him over and pull the thief away. No one knows what happened on the front end of this and how emotions can ramp up quickly but the skinny redneck kid is doing his job. His job is loss prevention and she is a thief. Maybe, just maybe we are a little (lot) judgmental with "above his station".
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)It means he was hired to look out for shoplifters, keep track of them, and report them to the real police.
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)Higher than is appropriate for your position or rank
I have worked in loss prevention and have a pretty good idea of what the job is and is not. I remember clearly that you have the authority to detain someone (make a citizens arrest) until the police come. You better be right if you do it though because if you are wrong, you can be charged with a host of offenses including false arrest, assault, battery and false imprisonment.
One who uses terms like "Above their station" and "Obviously you don't know what that phrase means" may want to rethink their comments cuz I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about, and pretty sure I know what that phrase means.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You predicate your entire argument on your own dated and anecdotal experience. Hence, I'm not confident at all you know what you're talking about or what the phrase means.
But I get it... you need to dig in on this one.
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)the laws have only become more strict as I held other jobs in retail since and see how they have gotten better training and more instruction.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)It doesn't matter if he was making a citizens arrest, there is still the issue of excessive force. Was he trained to be a cop? Did he go through courses on how to properly arrest someone? Did he read her her rights as he had her in a half-nelson? If he was not trained for this, if he was not a law enforcement official, then I call it acting above his station. Simple as that.
bottomofthehill
(8,261 posts)I dont believe in cast system shit like "Know your station". I also resent being told I dont know what I am talking about when I have walked in that persons shoes. I would still be a busboy, barback, loss prevention specialist, merchandiser at Caldors and house painter if I believed that. Simple truth, for liability issues the store made sure he had the training required before they let him working that capacity in their store, it is not his job to read her her rights, that is the job of the police. His job is to safely detain her. was he aggressive, yes. Was he also assaulted in the beginning of the video, yes. Was he charged with a crime even though all those people have video, not yet but who knows. Will the store be sued, we will see. Defending a man who beat up a girl, nope, thats a little too simple.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)Their employers do not care. Property protection is the mission, and if you can't uphold the mission, there are plenty of others out there who will because god forbid anybody get something they don't deserve.
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)aka sociopath.
KT2000
(20,544 posts)Did he even identify himself? He looks like just some guy - how is anyone supposed to know he is a security guard to begin with?
Big tough sociopath gets to beat up a girl. That was assault. Charge him.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Igel
(35,191 posts)He didn't pick her up and slam her on the ground; I doubt he could have if she'd have assisted.
But it stokes outrage and gets clicks.
As for the up-thread "above his station," there are other words that mean the same thing that, to be honest, are offensive. But mean precisely the same thing.