HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » We are not stupid

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:16 PM

We are not stupid

You are going to pull the troops from Syria cause Putin told you to. You lie and say there is a 'small ISIS presence' in Syria and that's why you want the troops out. Your top military commanders disagree cause they know this is not true. Putin's puppet. Now if you do move them out and I think you will, ISIS will be back with an even bigger presence and they are plotting right now

28 replies, 3718 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 28 replies Author Time Post
Reply We are not stupid (Original post)
SummerSnow Apr 2018 OP
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1
The Blue Flower Apr 2018 #2
SummerSnow Apr 2018 #4
Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #12
PatSeg Apr 2018 #14
Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #21
PatSeg Apr 2018 #28
Moostache Apr 2018 #3
GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #5
Whiskeytide Apr 2018 #6
BamaRefugee Apr 2018 #10
Whiskeytide Apr 2018 #20
former9thward Apr 2018 #22
Whiskeytide Apr 2018 #24
BamaRefugee Apr 2018 #25
atreides1 Apr 2018 #7
Granny M Apr 2018 #9
Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #8
lsewpershad Apr 2018 #11
lark Apr 2018 #13
Duppers Apr 2018 #15
BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #16
LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #17
HenryWallace Apr 2018 #18
onecent Apr 2018 #19
Initech Apr 2018 #23
3catwoman3 Apr 2018 #26
bdamomma Apr 2018 #27

Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:18 PM

1. White House is occupied by a traitor, Russia is at war with us and we sit here.

I sit here too, dont get me wrong, but our enemy stole our election, took over our WH and we sit here HOPING Mueller can do something

...

...

No, I dont have the answer, but I know this is not it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:21 PM

2. The danger of Putin's puppet being in the Oval

The ramifications are dire globally. I think the trade war is Putin's idea as well, considering the damage it will do to our farmers.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:30 PM

4. Our farmers will be devastated.I agree these trade wars were

Putin's idea cause he wants the US to have bad relations with their allies. And Trump listened.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:31 PM

12. No damage will be done to real farmers

Just those abusive pig meat businesses and controlled poison grains sales.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:45 PM

14. I can't believe China wants

our soybeans as 93% of our soybean crops are treated with glyphosate.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to PatSeg (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:42 PM

21. I know, I visited the USDA website the other day about the use of chemicals on exported grains

And they listed the number 1 pesticide used was glyphosate. It's dumped on millions and millions of acres every year. I never thought it was a pesticide but it seems to kill nematodes too. Hell that shit kills anything including people.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:25 PM

28. It is rather surprising

as many other countries have stricter laws about chemically treated crops. Some refuse to import our corn and soybeans.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:25 PM

3. Trump should be hauled out of the Oval Office in leg irons and tried for treason.

He is the first active traitor to hold the office of the President of the United States and as such he should be made an example of for all to see. Public hanging from the Washington Monument. I will volunteer to push him off if such service is required. It may be hard to move that mountain of flesh and gas, but I will do my level best. (Gonna go hit the gym now....just in case.)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Moostache (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:44 PM

5. While I'd love

to get all William Wallace on his fat, ignorant and malicious ass, I think time in the klink is probably more appropriate.

We must maintain a dignified approach to our outrage and exact both judgement and retribution responsibly lest it reflect poorly on us.

We dont want to become a revolution that anyone can relate to El Che: initially Ernesto was a populist revolutionary, then he lost it and became the socialist executioner. He lacked forethought. Hence, his death in Valle Grande via philosophical hubris.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:46 PM

6. ISIS wont be back in Syria. ...

... i think that if US and UN forces are removed, Putin will take control of a puppet regime, provide platoons of military advisors, and crush all opposition - including ISIS.

He canít do that now because if weíre there we will have a stake in the post ISIS government. And because of the risk of US casualties and an international incident. He wants us out of the way. Itís not about ISIS. Itís about oil and territory.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:22 PM

10. Just like Russia *crushed* the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:40 PM

20. Diff scenario. Russia would have ...

... the backing of the Syrian govt. and could go into full extermination mode. Little or no pushback from the US. Advanced weaponry now. Different terrain more suitable to large army movement. There will always be pockets of terrorist, but I think ISIS would be hard pressed to regain actual territory and a significant presence in Syria if Russian Troops were on the ground in strength.

Itís just my opinion. I think acquiring Syria is part of Putinís long game. The oil and easy access to the Mediterranean Sea would help make Russia more sanction resistant. I think heíd be willing to spend a lot of resources to secure it. He just needs us out of the theater.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:13 PM

22. What oil?

Not every Mideast country has oil. Syria has almost no oil production. Russia is the top oil producer in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

Russia wants a presence in Syria because it has a naval base and an air force base. Russia is going to keep those no matter what.

We should be out of Mideast countries. We have done no good there. We messed up Iraq and Syria is no different.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to former9thward (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:11 PM

24. Crude export is 25% of the country's revenue. It ...

... may not be a big player comparatively, but there is oil there, and it is a big part of the state economy.

But I don't disagree that perhaps the port and strategic location are the goals. Either way, Putin has his sights set on it.

And I don't disagree that we should get out. I'm just postulating on why Putin might have directed Trump to withdraw US forces. Trump's not doing it because it's good US policy (even if it happens to be). He's doing it because he was told to do it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:51 PM

25. Trump signs his love notes to Putin "your most obedient servant"

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:55 PM

7. And leave our Kurdish allies, f**ked!!!

What we should be concerned with...is an alliance between Syria, Russia, and Turkey! Because once the Syrian rebels are destroyed, that particular Axis of Evil, will be going after the Kurds.

Remember the Kurds? US allies in the fight against Saddam and ISIS! Trump is going to leave them high and dry...leaving the door open for their elimination by the new Axis powers!

Yet again the United States leaves an indigenous ally to fend for themselves!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to atreides1 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:19 PM

9. This is disgusting.

The Kurds have been loyal allies and deserve support.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:01 PM

8. Putin has teleagraphed his

 

intentions months ago. Major Military Base to control Surface Shipping tensions in the Gulf.. Major Gas and Oil Pipeline that will move his Oil and Gas to Eourpe and India.

Again,it boils down to OIL.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:24 PM

11. Thought

he said he would depend on the generals' advice when taking any position regarding war and troops. LIAR.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lsewpershad (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:37 PM

13. Ah, but you already knew this would be true from the moment he said it.

If his tiny fingers or ass mouth is moving, he's always lying. He's just a lazy prick and so wanted to put all the grunt work of actually looking at intelligence and making plans onto them - EXCEPT - where Russia is concerned. In those instances he calls the shots as demanded by Putin, regardless of the impact on our troops, our country or any other country. He's PUtin's hand puppet and was put in that job by Putin personally.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lsewpershad (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:52 PM

15. Exactly!

The Generals do not respect him.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:05 PM

16. I just read on DU that he may be pulling back on this issue.

He does a 180 all the time...distraction, thrives on chaos, doesn't listen to anyone except Fux Ruse TV, etc. He has to be gone ASAP! A corrupt, stupid, illiterate, crazy, mean moron is running this show. I feels so safe and secure.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:11 PM

17. And the Kurds just love them some Trump

Disturbing but true. If you've ever watched Samanatha Bee's piece on it when she traveled there.




Perhaps from a distance, he is seen as a strong man leader. Maybe it is what they are used to having and admiring in a leader. They are, or had been, getting support from the US for a long time now, through Obama's time, but it seems they respect more a blistering braggart than a diplomatic courteous President. Maybe that was also tinged with racism.

Maybe a few will change their tune now

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:15 PM

18. Yes, yes... endless war, our military can fix everything.

 

Come on people, even a broken clock is right twice a day...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:16 PM

19. Doesn't he have to get it cleared before congress??

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:53 PM

23. The sooner this nightmare of an administration ends the better.

But as long as Pooty is in charge I fear that even if we do get Trump out and install a completely blue government, it still won't be over. He may have even scarier plans in store.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:06 PM

26. IIRC, was not one of Trump's criticisms of...

...President Obama that he announced military intentions ahead of time?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:34 PM

27. Putin meeting with

Turkey, and Iran and the US is totally out of the picture. WTF........tRump is our own homegrown terrorist and taking down this country.

Putin has little man syndrome.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread