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Avenatti just confirmed on O'Donnell that the payoff to Daniels was (Original Post) shraby May 2018 OP
Thank you for posting this...I couldn't get to the Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #1
By taking over Daniels case, he got the files from her former attorney so shraby May 2018 #3
Important manor321 May 2018 #2
Avenatti is a thorn in Spanky's side HipChick May 2018 #4
Avenatti also said that his claim is based on facts. triron May 2018 #5
Heard that. Stunning news. Good news. highplainsdem May 2018 #6
I figured this was known D_Master81 May 2018 #7
Sure manor321 May 2018 #8
It doesn't have to be assumed anymore. There is actual proof. shraby May 2018 #9
I would have thought this was understood by all parties involved. Calista241 May 2018 #10
It has never been about their relationship. eggplant May 2018 #13
Nobody knows how Cohen was compensated for it. Calista241 May 2018 #15
""not illegal" garybeck May 2018 #21
Even they thought they were going to lose the election GusBob May 2018 #11
It would always be a big deal because Russia was interfering in our election big time. shraby May 2018 #16
I don't know how much Avenattis charging... JohnnyRingo May 2018 #12
My thought was he could wind up in politics. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #18
Well, yeah! thanks for concrete Cha May 2018 #14
That was known already, wasn't it? Cohen was doing a "search and kill" mission. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #17
Wow! Lugnut May 2018 #19
There's a bit of mongrel in Avenatti canetoad May 2018 #20
Didn't he also "confirm" that Cohen was wiretapped? oberliner May 2018 #22

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. By taking over Daniels case, he got the files from her former attorney so
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:40 PM
May 2018

he can back up what he's saying.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. Important
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:39 PM
May 2018

Yes, this is important. We'll have to see the evidence ourselves of course, but Avenatti is very strongly saying he has the evidence himself. He claims the evidence shows that Cohen and Stormy's previous lawyer extensively discussed that the payment had to be made before the election. It will be very strong evidence of campaign finance violations and will refute claims that the timing was accidental.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. Avenatti is a thorn in Spanky's side
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:45 PM
May 2018
Rudy spin's are no match...hopefully he pop over to CNN tonight too..

triron

(21,916 posts)
5. Avenatti also said that his claim is based on facts.
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:49 PM
May 2018

He's not just throwing it out there like Giuliani.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
7. I figured this was known
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:54 PM
May 2018

I mean it was a couple weeks before the election. Common sense would assume that it was election related.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
8. Sure
Thu May 3, 2018, 10:57 PM
May 2018

But that is very different than having documentary evidence of it. The evidence is needed to prove the crime.

Calista241

(5,584 posts)
10. I would have thought this was understood by all parties involved.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:20 PM
May 2018

and it's not important, it's not illegal, and if Trump wasn't President it wouldn't even be interesting.

I mean, i guess you could call it scandalous since Trump, by paying her off, is admitting that he banged this girl. She's publicly said it was consensual, even though i would think it's disgusting. Here she is, a 30ish year old pornstar, and she's banging a mid-60's rich guy?

I would imagine Trump is a little below her usual standard in bed partners. I mean, she worked for Vivid, which is the Ritz Carlton of porn production companies.

eggplant

(3,893 posts)
13. It has never been about their relationship.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:31 PM
May 2018

It has always been about the cover-up regarding the payment. Let's stay focused here.

Calista241

(5,584 posts)
15. Nobody knows how Cohen was compensated for it.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:46 PM
May 2018

Rudi has said he’s on a regular, contractual retainer, and we know he was an employee of the Trump Org.

Everyone is assuming that campaign funds were used to pay her off, but nobody knows that yet.

If i had to guess what happened, I’d guess Cohen fronted the money to her, and Trump has paid him back just in the last few weeks or so. Trump is widely known for stiffing people.

Stormy Daniels is a sideshow. She’s the ultimate distraction.

garybeck

(9,932 posts)
21. ""not illegal"
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:31 PM
May 2018

Are you a judge or a lawyer?

I have read in several articles recently that there are FEC laws against deliberately preventing truthful information from coming out for the purpose of influencing voters choices

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
11. Even they thought they were going to lose the election
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:27 PM
May 2018

They planned on protecting Trump the candidate. If it came out after he lost, no big deal

What they didn't plan on is how it could affect Trump as president

It's just like the Russian thing. If they had lost, it would not be a big deal.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
16. It would always be a big deal because Russia was interfering in our election big time.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:53 PM
May 2018

This can never be allowed to happen. Our system needs to be taken off line and back to paper and pen. Pencil is easy to erase and change.

What Mueller is trying to determine is if trump and company facilitated and encouraged that interference, as well if trump obstructed the investigation into the Russian interference.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
12. I don't know how much Avenattis charging...
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:30 PM
May 2018

...but I've never seen a lawyer work like he does. If he's charging by the hour, Daniels will have to pick up a second job holding cue cards on the movie set.

Kidding aside, I'm sure that Avenatti will be either famous or infamous after this is over. He could end up the country's most desired attorney, or not. I believe he and Daniels are working toward a common goal and we get the fringe benefits.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
18. My thought was he could wind up in politics.
Fri May 4, 2018, 01:12 AM
May 2018

Maybe big city mayor....or hell, even Congress.

He's almost beating tRump on free publicity in the media.

..... .......

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. That was known already, wasn't it? Cohen was doing a "search and kill" mission.
Fri May 4, 2018, 12:34 AM
May 2018

Or was that not confirmed before?

But for Stormy Daniels' purpose, that's irrelevant, I think.

canetoad

(17,089 posts)
20. There's a bit of mongrel in Avenatti
Fri May 4, 2018, 01:27 AM
May 2018

This was precious:

Laurence: I just wanna make sure we've got this straight. You are aware of clear and convincing evidence that Michael Cohen was communicating with Stormy Daniels lawyer at the time about the urgency of getting this settlement and this payment done in October 2016 because it needed to be done because of the presidential campaign?

Avenatti: Yes

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