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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAvenatti just confirmed on O'Donnell that the payoff to Daniels was
all about hushing it up before the election. It's breaking news on O'Donnell.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,063 posts)computer fast enough. This is big.
shraby
(21,946 posts)he can back up what he's saying.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Yes, this is important. We'll have to see the evidence ourselves of course, but Avenatti is very strongly saying he has the evidence himself. He claims the evidence shows that Cohen and Stormy's previous lawyer extensively discussed that the payment had to be made before the election. It will be very strong evidence of campaign finance violations and will refute claims that the timing was accidental.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)triron
(21,916 posts)He's not just throwing it out there like Giuliani.
highplainsdem
(48,731 posts)D_Master81
(1,822 posts)I mean it was a couple weeks before the election. Common sense would assume that it was election related.
But that is very different than having documentary evidence of it. The evidence is needed to prove the crime.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Calista241
(5,584 posts)and it's not important, it's not illegal, and if Trump wasn't President it wouldn't even be interesting.
I mean, i guess you could call it scandalous since Trump, by paying her off, is admitting that he banged this girl. She's publicly said it was consensual, even though i would think it's disgusting. Here she is, a 30ish year old pornstar, and she's banging a mid-60's rich guy?
I would imagine Trump is a little below her usual standard in bed partners. I mean, she worked for Vivid, which is the Ritz Carlton of porn production companies.
eggplant
(3,893 posts)It has always been about the cover-up regarding the payment. Let's stay focused here.
Calista241
(5,584 posts)Rudi has said hes on a regular, contractual retainer, and we know he was an employee of the Trump Org.
Everyone is assuming that campaign funds were used to pay her off, but nobody knows that yet.
If i had to guess what happened, Id guess Cohen fronted the money to her, and Trump has paid him back just in the last few weeks or so. Trump is widely known for stiffing people.
Stormy Daniels is a sideshow. Shes the ultimate distraction.
garybeck
(9,932 posts)Are you a judge or a lawyer?
I have read in several articles recently that there are FEC laws against deliberately preventing truthful information from coming out for the purpose of influencing voters choices
GusBob
(7,286 posts)They planned on protecting Trump the candidate. If it came out after he lost, no big deal
What they didn't plan on is how it could affect Trump as president
It's just like the Russian thing. If they had lost, it would not be a big deal.
shraby
(21,946 posts)This can never be allowed to happen. Our system needs to be taken off line and back to paper and pen. Pencil is easy to erase and change.
What Mueller is trying to determine is if trump and company facilitated and encouraged that interference, as well if trump obstructed the investigation into the Russian interference.
JohnnyRingo
(18,581 posts)...but I've never seen a lawyer work like he does. If he's charging by the hour, Daniels will have to pick up a second job holding cue cards on the movie set.
Kidding aside, I'm sure that Avenatti will be either famous or infamous after this is over. He could end up the country's most desired attorney, or not. I believe he and Daniels are working toward a common goal and we get the fringe benefits.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,483 posts)Maybe big city mayor....or hell, even Congress.
He's almost beating tRump on free publicity in the media.
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Cha
(295,925 posts)confirmation, Avenatti and shraby
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Or was that not confirmed before?
But for Stormy Daniels' purpose, that's irrelevant, I think.
canetoad
(17,089 posts)This was precious:
Laurence: I just wanna make sure we've got this straight. You are aware of clear and convincing evidence that Michael Cohen was communicating with Stormy Daniels lawyer at the time about the urgency of getting this settlement and this payment done in October 2016 because it needed to be done because of the presidential campaign?
Avenatti: Yes
oberliner
(58,724 posts)When he actually wasn't.