Sun May 6, 2018, 03:52 PM
Siwsan (17,970 posts)
How do you think Sarah Palin is reacting to the news she's in McCain's regret column?
McCain says he regrets picking Palin as running mate
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he regrets choosing former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) to be his running mate during the 2008 presidential campaign. The New York Times reported on Saturday that McCain, while still defending Palin’s performance, said in his upcoming book, “The Restless Wave: Good Times, Just Causes, Great Fights, and other Appreciations,” that he wishes he had instead selected former Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) His advisers reportedly had warned against choosing Lieberman, who was once a Democrat, stating that Lieberman’s support of abortion rights could divide Republicans. “It was sound advice that I could reason for myself,” he writes. “But my gut told me to ignore it and I wish I had.” http://thehill.com/homenews/news/386392-mccain-i-regret-picking-palin-as-my-vice-presidential-nominee
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Siwsan | May 2018 | OP |
PJMcK | May 2018 | #1 | |
3catwoman3 | May 2018 | #39 | |
PJMcK | May 2018 | #43 | |
OneBlueDotBama | May 2018 | #2 | |
underpants | May 2018 | #3 | |
SummerSnow | May 2018 | #4 | |
Different Drummer | May 2018 | #6 | |
SummerSnow | May 2018 | #10 | |
Different Drummer | May 2018 | #12 | |
vi5 | May 2018 | #5 | |
Power 2 the People | May 2018 | #20 | |
irisblue | May 2018 | #22 | |
Aristus | May 2018 | #32 | |
dameatball | May 2018 | #7 | |
3catwoman3 | May 2018 | #36 | |
dameatball | May 2018 | #38 | |
quartz007 | May 2018 | #8 | |
mercuryblues | May 2018 | #41 | |
Wellstone ruled | May 2018 | #9 | |
PJMcK | May 2018 | #11 | |
Collimator | May 2018 | #13 | |
shanny | May 2018 | #25 | |
lame54 | May 2018 | #14 | |
procon | May 2018 | #15 | |
karynnj | May 2018 | #18 | |
Raine | May 2018 | #21 | |
Cha | May 2018 | #40 | |
Scurrilous | May 2018 | #16 | |
Mr. Ected | May 2018 | #17 | |
Ohiogal | May 2018 | #19 | |
yortsed snacilbuper | May 2018 | #23 | |
msongs | May 2018 | #24 | |
FakeNoose | May 2018 | #26 | |
tammywammy | May 2018 | #28 | |
kskiska | May 2018 | #42 | |
JNelson6563 | May 2018 | #27 | |
mac56 | May 2018 | #33 | |
Turbineguy | May 2018 | #29 | |
Mike Nelson | May 2018 | #30 | |
dembotoz | May 2018 | #31 | |
kacekwl | May 2018 | #34 | |
JI7 | May 2018 | #35 | |
struggle4progress | May 2018 | #37 | |
KG | May 2018 | #44 |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 03:55 PM
PJMcK (15,071 posts)
1. Like she gives a shit
She's probably still pissed that she couldn't give her election night "concession" speech.
ETA: Here's the clip from the movie, "Game Change." |
Response to PJMcK (Reply #1)
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:29 PM
3catwoman3 (16,439 posts)
39. One of my favorite scenes...
...from that movie.
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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #39)
Mon May 7, 2018, 05:51 AM
PJMcK (15,071 posts)
43. Me, too!
Sarah gets appropriately slapped down.
Additionally, Steve Schmidt gave her an American civics lesson, not that she understood it. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 03:55 PM
OneBlueDotBama (836 posts)
2. More Dents...
In the fridge, from cans being tossed at it.
This is the DU member formerly known as OneBlueDotBama.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:01 PM
SummerSnow (12,608 posts)
4. her voice alone makes her unqualified
Response to SummerSnow (Reply #4)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:03 PM
Different Drummer (5,507 posts)
6. Combine the voice and the word salad and...
you have an awful combination.
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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #6)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:06 PM
SummerSnow (12,608 posts)
10. you can get hostages released by just playing her voice
Response to SummerSnow (Reply #10)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:12 PM
Different Drummer (5,507 posts)
12. ...
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:03 PM
vi5 (13,305 posts)
5. Oh brother.....is it all starting now?
I know McCain is dying, and while he doesn't rise to the level of someone who I will gravedance for (unlike Scalia, Brietbart, and a few others), I"m also not going to be willing to rewrite history to play into this completely false notion of him being some kind of "maverick" or independent thinker. He's been a party line Republican for at least 95% of the votes he's cast.
He's repeatedly sold out his dignity and self respect by supporting and backing and providing cover for cowardly men who have denigrated him (both Bush and Trump). I'll feel bad for him and his family, but let's not also make him out to be something he wasn't. |
Response to vi5 (Reply #5)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:27 PM
Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)
20. So true
Couldn't have said it better.
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Response to vi5 (Reply #5)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:53 PM
irisblue (25,255 posts)
22. Vi5 is telling it for me.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:04 PM
dameatball (6,080 posts)
7. Just my reaction, but for what it's worth:
I may be a person that is less well read about Republican politics than many others on DU and elsewhere. But I vividly recall my thoughts when Palin came to be a possible option. When I first heard that there was a female governor from Alaska that was being touted I was sort of impressed. I assumed that it would be a new face and a good direction for the GOP and it sort of worried me. I wanted them to stay old white fogies. Up until then I was not familiar with her at all.
Then, after the first two or three times I heard her speak I could only think to myself "WTF has he done???" The woman was obviously a horrendous choice. Maybe she appeased a certain portion of the party, but certainly not the country. I still don't think he would have won if he picked someone else. The terrible thing is that he (McCain) helped elevate that idiotic voice into the general discourse and gave it even greater "normalcy." His choice is one of the things that eventually contributed to where we are now. |
Response to dameatball (Reply #7)
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:41 PM
3catwoman3 (16,439 posts)
36. "His choice...
...is one of the things that eventually contributed to where we are now."
While I do not wish him ill in his final time on the planet, I will never forgive him for releasing that harpy on the country. She most definitely contributed to the decline of civility that has spread like a plague. |
Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #36)
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:05 PM
dameatball (6,080 posts)
38. The town hall meetings prior to this had gotten progressively bolder and uglier. She made it worse.
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:04 PM
quartz007 (1,216 posts)
8. Why would she care in 2018?
She exploited the limelight provided as VP nominee, and already made tons of money. What McCain thinks now doesn't mean much now, does it? She is washed up.
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Response to quartz007 (Reply #8)
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:41 PM
mercuryblues (11,883 posts)
41. I think they blew through
a ton of that money. Paying off people to not press charges, lawyers, keeping Trail out of jail. Building homes for the kids. All of that does not come cheap.
She shut down her super pac last year. I suspect she was using it as a slush fund to pay her friends and family. She was spending 10x the amount on operations and "consultants" than donations to candidates. IBTimes claims only 4% went towards candidates in the last year it was in operation. She spent 5x more on travel than donations. alone. When was the last time she was invited to CPAC? The only press the Palins get now is in the police blotter. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:05 PM
Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)
9. Sarah and Merry Band of Grifters
are still grifting in Wasilla from what we hear. Like most have said,she could care less what John McCain says. She walked away with plenty of Retirement Money.
This is the DU member formerly known as Wellstone ruled.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:11 PM
PJMcK (15,071 posts)
11. Will she want to give a eulogy?
See my post #1 above.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:34 PM
Collimator (1,138 posts)
13. This was my summation in 2008:
Palin is Bush in a skirt.
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Response to Collimator (Reply #13)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:16 PM
shanny (6,709 posts)
25. She was never even that capable.
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:37 PM
lame54 (29,689 posts)
14. He regrets he didn't make the other horrible choice
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:37 PM
procon (15,805 posts)
15. Lieberman would not have been a good choice either.
Further proof that McCain was off his game. He should never had run. Lieberman would have caused him almost as much grief as Palin, and for what? Was he likely to bring in millions of voters when he was a relatively unknown politician whose only claim to fame was that he was a Democrat who aspires to be the Vice President.
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Response to procon (Reply #15)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:01 PM
karynnj (58,331 posts)
18. Actually, he might have been a genius choice -- even though Lieberman is terrible
Why?
It would have reinforced that McCain was a maverick and was looking to unite the country by creating a bipartisan ticket. He could argue that there were enough things they agreed on - including national security, climate change and the environment (that until then McCain was decent on). The media, which had loved McCain, would have been entranced by the idea that Lieberman, 8 short years before was on the Democratic ticket - where he then cheered by Democrats. I think they still would have lost because the country was against the Iraq war by 2008 and the economic collapse would still have been a negative because McCain seemed completely unable to convey that they could lead on that. If McCain would have picked up that the economy was going to crater, his best choice might have been Romney, who might have been able to look like someone who could lead the country through that. |
Response to karynnj (Reply #18)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:36 PM
Raine (25,907 posts)
21. It certainly would've been a bold choice
I don't like Lieberman and still don't think they would've won but it wouldn't have been as disastrous as Palin.
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Response to procon (Reply #15)
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:55 PM
Cha (269,191 posts)
40. I know, right! Are those the only two choices
he had?!
I was worried at first, too, when I heard he had a female gov as his running mate. I was so grateful when it turned out to be who she is. Sure didn't say much for the majority in Alaska.. and she couldn't even finish that. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:43 PM
Scurrilous (38,628 posts)
16. She's busy smacking the bottom of her PAC tip jar, hoping more change drops out.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:46 PM
Mr. Ected (7,174 posts)
17. Sending her hopes and prayers for an early demise, that's how. -eom
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:08 PM
Ohiogal (18,301 posts)
19. She has no class.
Has she gone to visit him out at his ranch since he's been ill, like Joe Biden and Jeff Flake have done? I'll bet not.
I wonder if she'll even show up at his funeral. Yet she sure was happy to come visit Trumpy at his new digs, bring two crazy kooks along with her, (Nugent and Kid Rock) and mug for the cameras under Hillary's portrait. She is just a low class nobody. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:57 PM
yortsed snacilbuper (7,823 posts)
23. She's with tRump now.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:08 PM
msongs (59,443 posts)
24. choosing palin was proof mccain was unfit to be president nt
Response to msongs (Reply #24)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:21 PM
FakeNoose (17,231 posts)
26. I thought McCain got his arm twisted
I seem to recall reading or hearing that Palin wasn't his choice, but other Republicans wanted her. They wanted a woman, any RWNJ would do. They didn't expect her to contribute much to the ticket, she just had to look good next to him.
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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #26)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:23 PM
tammywammy (26,582 posts)
28. I believe you're correct.
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #26)
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:53 PM
kskiska (26,409 posts)
42. Bill Kristol had a lot to do with it.
I believe she was his "discovery."
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:22 PM
JNelson6563 (28,127 posts)
27. I find it gratifying.
In my mind it buys him a sliver of redemption for his sins against humanity. He does have a decent showing in the redemption column, perhaps though not quite enough...
No doubt more painful realizations coming his way before all is said and done. His time of reckoning. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:23 PM
Turbineguy (32,164 posts)
29. It helps her.
The GOP is looking for the most unqualified person they can find. Getting dissed by McCain is a good thing for her.
It's a school where if you get a solid string of "F"s, you make the Dean's List. |
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:28 PM
Mike Nelson (7,625 posts)
30. He would have...
...lost with Lieberman, also. His best bet would have been to pick someone very plain, safe, nondescript... by the way, his real shot at the Presidency was stopped by GWB... that would have been McCain's best shot, in my opinion.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:31 PM
dembotoz (15,073 posts)
31. it printed in a newspaper she will never know
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:50 PM
kacekwl (5,014 posts)
34. She loves it. Might
get her a couple of faux news appearances.
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:52 PM
JI7 (83,281 posts)
35. She probably already knew during the 2008 campaign
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:42 PM
struggle4progress (111,640 posts)
37. "Yay! My name's in the news again!"
Response to Siwsan (Original post)
Mon May 7, 2018, 07:49 AM
KG (28,338 posts)
44. remember when there was a lieberman group on DU?
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