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orangecrush

(19,236 posts)
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:16 PM May 2018

Nunes, Gowdy to get classified briefing on Mueller documents


House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) will receive a classified briefing on Thursday related to documents pertaining to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah) told The Hill that the committee chairmen "are going to get access" to the documents Nunes has demanded in connection to Mueller's probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Fox News reported that the committee chairmen will visit the Justice Department for the the briefing.

The classified briefing reportedly follows a meeting at the White House on Tuesday between Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, his deputy and White House chief of staff John Kelly.

However, the Justice Department has been hesitant to comply with his request, warning that turning over the material could risk lives

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/national-security/386998-nunes-gowdy-to-get-classified-briefing-on-mueller-documents%3famp


Anything Nunes gets his traitorous little hands on goes straight to Trump, and from there straight to Putin.

Look for a high level CIA asset to fall out of a window in the near future.

Nunes belongs in Leavenworth.



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Nunes, Gowdy to get classified briefing on Mueller documents (Original Post) orangecrush May 2018 OP
We may have to have a confrontation with these traitors Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #1
I'm hoping orangecrush May 2018 #11
This should seal Devin Nunes fate; the treasonist bastard! democratisphere May 2018 #2
He may be getting enough rope orangecrush May 2018 #12
Agreed. democratisphere May 2018 #15
I guess it's too much to hope they would Phoenix61 May 2018 #3
That's just what I was thinking and see how fast it gets back to Trump blueinredohio May 2018 #5
I was thinking the same thing. Give him some fake info and see how long it takes for him to spill politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #13
How desperate is Nunes? orangecrush May 2018 #21
Mueller Is A Pretty Smart Cookie Me. May 2018 #4
we will soon see orangecrush May 2018 #20
God-Dam i hope this is TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone May 2018 #29
Also does Schiff get to be there? blueinredohio May 2018 #6
Don't know. orangecrush May 2018 #10
The article does not mention anything about ranking Dem members having acesss!! riversedge May 2018 #30
I hope not mercuryblues May 2018 #34
I'm Wondering Where The Senate Intel Committee Is Me. May 2018 #38
Show him something big and see how long it takes don to tweet about it NightWatcher May 2018 #7
cat and mouse orangecrush May 2018 #19
Shit. If two are briefed they can both say "I didn't leak he did." IADEMO2004 May 2018 #8
it involves high level national security asset orangecrush May 2018 #16
Then you do like in grade school kacekwl May 2018 #42
So, on Thursday night we're all going to get a classified briefing on Mueller documents wonkwest May 2018 #9
my thoughts exactly orangecrush May 2018 #17
I get a weird feeling Gowdy dislikes Nunes JDC May 2018 #14
This is like a LeCarre novel orangecrush May 2018 #18
And if George Smiley is a bombastic idiot JDC May 2018 #28
Was thinking the same thing ProudLib72 May 2018 #24
Nunes connection? Why was his Obsession with Portugal. Wwcd May 2018 #22
Extremely interesting! orangecrush May 2018 #26
It is. No one should be trusting Nunes with anything. Wwcd May 2018 #32
I had read this a while ago but have not seen it mentioned anywhere. I have always thought since riversedge May 2018 #35
I hope the FBI inserts some false harmless stuff to see if Nunes leaks it Freethinker65 May 2018 #23
That is precisly what they should do. Nunes is a nuts. Wwcd May 2018 #25
Crazy But Not Smart Me. May 2018 #40
Nunes expects that. orangecrush May 2018 #27
I'm thinking gowdy has found his conscience. And sees the evil of trump beachbum bob May 2018 #31
Am I missing something? ButSeeYa May 2018 #33
I am surprised to see this happening (Nunes getting access to Mueller information). Angry is more riversedge May 2018 #37
Reality set in. Just like Trump is not beyond Mueller's subpoenas, the DOJ isn't beyond Congresses. PoliticAverse May 2018 #41
THIS bluestarone May 2018 #43
THIS? DemocracyMouse May 2018 #49
GREAT POINT orangecrush May 2018 #51
Numbnuts- The worst of the worst. NBachers May 2018 #36
any bets its 'dumbed down' and Gowdys in on it? samnsara May 2018 #39
This is a good thing. They are about to find out how bad it really is for them... cbdo2007 May 2018 #44
It can be bad, because Nunes will leak it to the White House OliverQ May 2018 #47
The White House already knows what all they have done wrong. cbdo2007 May 2018 #60
that means drumpf gets the same briefing too Takket May 2018 #45
They should give them each a folder to read drray23 May 2018 #46
Shhh! Don't let the evil klown kar in on it! DemocracyMouse May 2018 #50
Oh, F.....F.... Duppers May 2018 #48
+1 orangecrush May 2018 #52
So Trump has this info when he faces the Mueller team. Big deal. oasis May 2018 #53
Isn't Nunes the fuck who would sell his BootinUp May 2018 #54
So Rosenstein's phrase " we won't be extorted" is pretty lame now. triron May 2018 #55
Be sure to slip in some fake traceable info ThoughtCriminal May 2018 #56
Recommended. H2O Man May 2018 #57
Thanks! orangecrush May 2018 #58
How soon will the results appear in the press or from El-Trumpo Historic NY May 2018 #59

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. This should seal Devin Nunes fate; the treasonist bastard!
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:26 PM
May 2018

redumbliCONs in Congress, as usual, remain silent.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. I was thinking the same thing. Give him some fake info and see how long it takes for him to spill
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:02 PM
May 2018

it to Trump and Company.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. Mueller Is A Pretty Smart Cookie
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:35 PM
May 2018

we'll see what's what at the end of the day...maybe it's a trap and Nunes will get himself arrested.

bluestarone

(16,720 posts)
29. God-Dam i hope this is TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:25 PM
May 2018

I would love to see this Lower than snake bastard get his due!!!!!!!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. Show him something big and see how long it takes don to tweet about it
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018

Then when he does, throw devin in jail.

orangecrush

(19,236 posts)
16. it involves high level national security asset
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:04 PM
May 2018

if Nunes leaks it, he goes down.

He knows it.

Wonder if the Russians have enough on him to make him risk trying it?
 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
9. So, on Thursday night we're all going to get a classified briefing on Mueller documents
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:58 PM
May 2018

I'd say we should probably start warning people of defenestration, but Trump probably thinks it's a sex act.

JDC

(10,081 posts)
14. I get a weird feeling Gowdy dislikes Nunes
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:02 PM
May 2018

It is a sad state of affairs when I am rooting for Gowdy to be setting Nunes up.

Gowdy, although a snake of the highest order, seems to have found a little religion on his way out the door. He seems to be dsgusted with Nunes when i've caught his interviews. Maybe he wants to tank him. Or maybe he is still a weasel. Probably the later.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
24. Was thinking the same thing
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:16 PM
May 2018

We are dependent on Gowdy now to restrain Nunes. I cannot read Gowdy anymore, so this could get interesting very quickly.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
22. Nunes connection? Why was his Obsession with Portugal.
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:11 PM
May 2018

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Here, if you can possibly get this full article from NYTimes, do read it.
I had no idea what Nunes really was about until this.
It actually gave me chills & Devin Nunes has NO Business Being Given ANY INFO From Mueller's Investigation

This is a dangerous move, & Nunes involvement in Portugal is just more proof.
He is fking crazy.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/magazine/how-devin-nunes-turned-the-house-intelligence-committee-inside-out.html

Here's a snip of the rather lengthy read:
I'll post as much of it that pertains to Portugal & hope to include how obsessed Nunes was with Intel in that region.

Thus the question as to This Suicide and Nunes hands in any of it.
This is a long SNIP, I realize, but pay attention to the final sentences.



The chairmanship of the House Intelligence Committee is one of the most plum assignments on Capitol Hill. Its holder is a member of the “Gang of Eight” — party leaders of both houses of Congress and the top Democrat and Republican on the Intelligence Committees — and is therefore privy to America’s most sensitive national security secrets.
As chairman, Nunes now had the power to pursue any number of foreign policy issues — from defeating ISIS to containing Russia to checking Iran. The item that topped his agenda, however, was hardly a geostrategic imperative: He was, according to multiple sources, obsessed with the Azores, the semiautonomous Portuguese archipelago in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Nunes’s fixation on the Azores would come to dominate his initial years as chairman and serve as an object lesson in his intense distrust of the intelligence apparatus that he oversees.


In part, Nunes cared about the Azores for personal reasons. His family traces its heritage to the Azores; his wife has roots there as well. Nunes once wrote that because so many Americans of Portuguese descent came from the islands, there was a “unique bond between America and the Azores.” But even those dewy sentiments don’t seem to explain just how fixated Nunes was on the island territory.

For decades, the most concrete bond between the United States and the Azores was an American military installation on Terceira Island called Lajes Field. During the Cold War, American P-3 planes used Lajes to chase Soviet submarines all over the Atlantic; it also served as a fueling station for cargo planes and fighter jets en route from the United States to military installations in Europe and the Middle East.

But the end of the Cold War and technological advances brought an end to Lajes’s strategic importance.
The United States no longer needed to worry as much about maritime supremacy in the Atlantic. Cargo planes and fighter jets had sufficient flying ranges that they no longer needed to make as many stops to refuel.
Lajes was a natural target for cutbacks, and in 2012, the Air Force announced that it planned to scale back its presence there, ultimately reducing its head count to around 165 from 650.

Even before he was Intelligence Committee chairman, Nunes tried to fight the cuts. He proposed locating an Air Force drone base at Lajes that could be used to target Islamic militants in Northern Africa.

He introduced a bill to move the military’s Africa Command from Stuttgart, Germany, back to the continental United States — with the provision that Lajes be made Africom’s forward operating base. He suggested making Lajes a training facility for F-16 pilots. None of the ideas were deemed practical.



More controversial, according to two former government officials, Nunes tried to use his junior perch on the Intelligence Committee to install a National Security Agency listening post at Lajes. It was not a natural fit for the agency, largely because Portugal is not part of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, in which Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and the United States share signals intelligence. And although Portugal and the United States are allies, the American intelligence community doesn’t fully trust its Portuguese counterpart.
(There’s an old saying among spies: “There are no friendly intelligence services”; even allies gather information on one another for leverage should they need it.) Nor was the N.S.A. confident that Portugal had the type of counterintelligence controls to protect American secrets.

According to these former government officials, Nunes pressed Rogers to insert a provision into legislation that would require the N.S.A. to put a listening post at Lajes. Rogers refused.
When Nunes wouldn’t relent, Rogers arranged for Nunes to make his case directly to officials from the C.I.A., the N.S.A. and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. They also rejected the idea.

Once he became chairman, Nunes unveiled a new proposal for Lajes: making it the home of the Joint Intelligence Analysis Complex (JIAC), which included a huge new “intelligence fusion center” for the United States and its NATO allies.
But the Pentagon was already planning to build the JIAC at the Croughton Royal Air Force base near London. Not only was Croughton deemed to be the ideal location for the complex, but Lajes was also singularly ill equipped for the job.
The base’s housing and facilities would need to be expanded, and perhaps more crucial, the undersea communications cables connecting Terceira to Europe and the United States were not sufficiently robust, meaning new ones would have to be laid.

Although Nunes claimed that locating the JIAC at Lajes instead of Croughton would save the Pentagon $35 million a year because of the lower cost of living in the Azores and other efficiencies there, the Pentagon estimated that the infrastructure improvements needed at Lajes would cost $1.3 billion more than those at Croughton. (Nunes would later accuse the Defense Department of inflating its cost estimates and asked its inspector general to investigate; the inspector general’s report showed that the Pentagon’s budget projections were far more accurate than Nunes’s.)

And, cost aside, there was still the fact that Lajes is on an island in the middle of the Atlantic, making it inconvenient for many NATO allies. Nunes liked to call the Azores “the Hawaii of the Atlantic Ocean, only closer to America’s homeland.” But Hawaii, of course, has the advantage of being part of America.

And as James Clapper, then the director of national intelligence, told Nunes at one Intelligence Committee hearing: “In Hawaii, there are high schools, and there are medical facilities, and there are PXs and commissaries.
And that’s kind of lacking right now in Lajes.” NATO’s military commander at the time, Gen. Philip Breedlove of the Air Force, told National Review that putting the JIAC at Lajes “would not make financial, strategic or operational sense.”


Nunes persisted. In May 2015, he led a congressional delegation to Lajes.
The visit got off to a rough start when the delegation’s plane had to abort its landing attempt at Lajes because of high winds —
a not-uncommon occurrence there — and divert to a landing field on another island 165 miles away. After finally making it to the base, Nunes and the delegation toured the facilities to assess their suitability for the JIAC. “It wasn’t a fact-gathering visit,” says a government official who was at Lajes during the delegation’s visit. “They had their opinions, and they were looking to find justification for them.”

That evening, the Azorean president, Vasco Cordeiro, hosted a dinner in honor of Nunes and his fellow congressmen.
A number of senior Portuguese government officials, including the foreign minister, were also in attendance.
According to an American official who was at the dinner, Nunes made a toast in which he committed to finding a solution that would not only please the United States but also get the Portuguese everything they wanted.

As the evening went on, Nunes’s congressional colleagues made their own toasts echoing his sentiments. “It was like a fraternity event where everyone was pledging their loyalty to that mission,” the American official recalls.

Seemingly every time American military or intelligence officials would note an obstacle to Lajes’s hosting the JIAC, Nunes would dismiss it as either a red herring or, worse, a manufactured excuse. “He felt that the reason the Pentagon wasn’t willing to engage on this issue was that the generals didn’t want to give up their lifestyles of being close to London or in Germany,” the government official says.

Jim Townsend, who as President Obama’s deputy assistant secretary of defense for European and NATO policy was the Pentagon’s point person on Lajes, says of Nunes, “He looked on this almost from a paranoid perspective, like we were out to get him.”

In the end, Nunes did not get his way:
The JIAC is still planned for Croughton, and the American presence at Lajes has been drastically reduced.
But Nunes created so much rancor over the issue that some American officials came to question his motives, and even his patriotism. “I was having a hard-enough time being beaten up by the Azoreans and the Portuguese, but it was even harder seeing a congressman being in cahoots with them,” Townsend says. “It was like, ‘Whose team are you on?’?”
A former Pentagon official suspects that during the Lajes negotiations, Nunes was making the Portuguese privy to things they should not have known. “We would have a conversation about some proprietary matters with Nunes,” this official says, “and then the next day, somehow, Portugal knew some of that.”




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Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
32. It is. No one should be trusting Nunes with anything.
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:32 PM
May 2018

He's clearly in with Trump & Russia but after reading this article, Nunes has ties to something/someone else too.

Creepy as f.

riversedge

(69,708 posts)
35. I had read this a while ago but have not seen it mentioned anywhere. I have always thought since
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:38 PM
May 2018

reading this--months ago---this is a main reason why Nunes hates anything Obama--as Nune's dream of making something out of his ancestral islands got the boot from Obama Administration IMHO.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
40. Crazy But Not Smart
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:50 PM
May 2018

he has already tripped up several times, odds are a big fall is in his future. And this is why we need to take back the House and when we do, I wonder if an investigation into Nunes can be opened. Let him be subpoenaed.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
31. I'm thinking gowdy has found his conscience. And sees the evil of trump
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:27 PM
May 2018

And the corruption around him. Nunes is part of it.

riversedge

(69,708 posts)
37. I am surprised to see this happening (Nunes getting access to Mueller information). Angry is more
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:39 PM
May 2018

how I am feeling.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
44. This is a good thing. They are about to find out how bad it really is for them...
Wed May 9, 2018, 09:32 PM
May 2018

and that there is nothing they can do about it.

Nunes, Gowdy, Trump - they all already know how bad it is, now it is about how much Mueller knows, and he knows more than they think.

If anything, maybe they'll see how bad it is and start handing in resignations or be willing to cooperate so they don't spend the rest of their lives in jail. I don't see how this can be a bad thing at all.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
47. It can be bad, because Nunes will leak it to the White House
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:03 PM
May 2018

and try to damage the investigation. Or it will tip them off about how they can further obstruct things.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
60. The White House already knows what all they have done wrong.
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

They just don't know if Mueller knows it or not. Now they will know and once Mueller knows they will know their goose is cooked.

drray23

(7,587 posts)
46. They should give them each a folder to read
Wed May 9, 2018, 09:46 PM
May 2018

With some different doctored information planted in each file . They then sit and see if it gets leaked and who did it..

oasis

(49,150 posts)
53. So Trump has this info when he faces the Mueller team. Big deal.
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:41 PM
May 2018

He's not savvy enough to get through the interview unscathed. He's the perfect asshole for Mueller to trap while he sits at the table with a smirk and a false sense of security.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,009 posts)
56. Be sure to slip in some fake traceable info
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:58 PM
May 2018

That only they will get to see, and then have a pool for how many hours before it leaks.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
57. Recommended.
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:02 PM
May 2018

Nunes is, at very best, only marginally more intelligent than Michael Cohen. Thus, he will soon be facing a similar fate.

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