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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Clinton's via their foundation, the Clinton's via their service to the nation
both in the WH and Senate, have accomplished more than ANY body I can think of at the moment.
Their foundation alone does more for people in need in ONE day than any 100 armchair knowitalls will do combined in their lifetimes.
triron
(21,915 posts)And the repukes try to throw as much mud as they can in those directions.
Even some others in the media.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)lauded for that, absolutely.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I thought it was likely the Clinton Foundation had gotten behind a lot of PlayPump-like projects feel-good, sound-great ideas that attracted Clintons wealthy and well-known friends but didnt really have much of a measurable impact the world.
But I was wrong. After reviewing foundation documents and talking to numerous people in the philanthropy and global health sectors familiar with its work, Ive come to the conclusion that the Clinton Foundation is a real charitable enterprise that did enormous good. Its projects are of varying effectiveness, but its work is supported by credible, discriminating funders, and the foundation has least one huge accomplishment under its belt an HIV/AIDS program that saved an untold number of lives.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/22/12893444/clinton-foundation-effectiveness
Read about their efforts with Gates when it comes to malaria. Impressive to say the least.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)If only the millions of armchair experts who tell us how bad our candidates are only knew what the fuck they were talking about.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have zero doubt they are good people who have accomplished great things, almost always for others. Even with my issues I dont see them as a mixed bag. I see them as great yet flawed people who have put their amazing life on display for the betterment of society.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)Sure they got their fame and some fortune from it, but when I think of the DO NOTHINGS who sit around and whine and that they whine about THESE people?
Why that just makes me mad as hell.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Another Hillary Clinton shitstorm was kicked up when the Associated Press reported on Tuesday that during the Democratic presidential nominees tenure as secretary of state, she met several dozen times with donors to the Clinton Foundation. Hot damn, the Trumpsters declared, heres evidence of the corrupt, pay-to-play ways of the Clinton mob. Donald Trump called for the foundation to be shut down. Rudy Giuliani could defend his accusation that the Clinton Foundation was racketeering, a harsh legal term with which the former prosecutor must be familiar. And media commentators, including the Washington Posts Chris Cillizza, proclaimed this revelation a blow to Clinton, fixating on the supposedly awful optics.
Most of the reaction was overreaction. The article contained no real allegationslet alone evidenceof any corruption or breach of ethics. Most of the meetings cited were the sort of one-on-ones a secretary of state could be expected to hold, whether or not the person in the room with Clinton was a donor to the foundation. The story dwelled on a meeting she had with Nobel Prize winner and foundation donor Muhammad Yunus, a pioneer in microlending Clinton has known for 30 years. In one instance, the article cited a meeting Clinton held with the head of an AIDS foundation, which was developing projects in Africa with the State Department. And OMGthis foundation also gave to the Clinton Foundation, which has long been involved in the global fight against AIDS.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/clinton-foundation-controversy-actual-work/
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)75% of the republican party are sure that none of that is true.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother with any of this anymore.