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lordsummerisle

(4,649 posts)
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:15 PM May 2018

Mike Pence Says More Americans Believe in God Now That Trump is President

alternet.org

Vice President Mike Pence delivered the commencement address to graduating students at a small, private, ultra-conservative Christian college in Michigan Saturday afternoon. Many consider the former Indiana governor a devout Catholic, and his speech certainly supported that perception.
https://www.alternet.org/watch-mike-pence-says-more-americans-believe-god-now-trump-president

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Mike Pence Says More Americans Believe in God Now That Trump is President (Original Post) lordsummerisle May 2018 OP
Not to mention Jack Daniels, Dos Equis and Grey Goose. dameatball May 2018 #1
To be fair, more people ARE saying "oh my God" regularly. uppityperson May 2018 #2
+1 n/t. rzemanfl May 2018 #19
*Nailed* - and also begging for divine/fantasy intervention. UTUSN May 2018 #53
PRAYING HARD for karma. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #61
he's actually made about 65% of the population stand up and scream mnmoderatedem May 2018 #64
Oh right, elleng May 2018 #3
Maybe if he believed in science he could offer some proof Blue Owl May 2018 #4
Exactly. That statement of his should be disqualifying for any office. brush May 2018 #28
I will say Matthew28 May 2018 #5
He is a born again something. dhol82 May 2018 #6
The guys sick Matthew28 May 2018 #7
He probably thinks this because Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #8
He scares me a thousand times more than 45. redstatebluegirl May 2018 #9
I've Been Praying To God To Remove This Guy.... global1 May 2018 #10
Good thing that thou shalt not lie is not one of the big 10 matt819 May 2018 #11
He already is Matthew28 May 2018 #13
He's pretty much wiped his ass with the constitution and the 10 commandments. Initech May 2018 #16
Americans are becoming less religious, Pence. John Fante May 2018 #12
The Rump has convinced me to denounce all organized religion ProudLib72 May 2018 #14
It's time for churches to start paying taxes. Initech May 2018 #15
Maybe more Americans use God's name in vain when talking about doc03 May 2018 #17
Republicans praise God , Democrats follow Jesus more. pwb May 2018 #18
I refuse to pray to his FALSE GOD!!! (RUMP GOLDEN CALF) bluestarone May 2018 #20
The fact that he is VP and Spanky is in the White House have pushed me closer and closer to atheism. GoCubsGo May 2018 #21
has nothing to do with proof, it has to do with belief Hamlette May 2018 #41
Nope. GoCubsGo May 2018 #43
key word is "believes" Hamlette May 2018 #47
For you, that's good enough. GoCubsGo May 2018 #48
whatever Hamlette May 2018 #60
Whatever. GoCubsGo May 2018 #65
Because now they know the Devil is real. nt TeamPooka May 2018 #22
Not yet Mike Downtown Hound May 2018 #23
Mike Pence is not a Catholic, he's a fundie. Kingofalldems May 2018 #24
I noticed that too lordsummerisle May 2018 #25
Jesus wanted a bigoted con man who fucks around on his pregnant 3rd wife and then ... Botany May 2018 #26
Yes perfecto lunasun May 2018 #55
More alternative facts Roland99 May 2018 #27
I do not know about that, but I am far more open about being a non-believer Freethinker65 May 2018 #29
Lord. NurseJackie May 2018 #30
You made me choke!! BootinUp May 2018 #50
1 in 5 Americans have no Religious affiliation. Pence dreaming he is ruler of Gilead. sarcasmo May 2018 #31
Pence is running scared. If tRump goes down he gets exposed. njhoneybadger May 2018 #32
May Pence please go to hell where he belongs and quit pretending he's a good guy. The guy is RKP5637 May 2018 #33
mike is a devout republican. nothing more. a shitstain on america. spanone May 2018 #34
I think more of us believe in the devil. CanonRay May 2018 #35
Alternet universe... they never stop ....seeing only what they want to see Thekaspervote May 2018 #36
Not proud. I'll pray to anything that throws 45 & Pence the fuck out of out office and our lives. VOX May 2018 #37
Hillsdale College ' Erik Prince/Betsy Devos JustAnotherGen May 2018 #38
Live nearby Hillsdale College. gibraltar72 May 2018 #39
Americans are calling on the Lord more: "Oh, dear God, what next? Somebody make it stop!" struggle4progress May 2018 #40
I think he's full of shit about more people believing in God MurrayDelph May 2018 #42
With Trump in office lordsummerisle May 2018 #44
As a Xian, Pence is predisposed to believing in make believe stopbush May 2018 #45
Mike Pence is a Creepy Perverted Scumbag JI7 May 2018 #46
Pence the Dense can go fuck himself. roamer65 May 2018 #49
I hope he gets raptured right now ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #51
He's probably heard so many people saying things like The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #52
Horse shit. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #54
I read stuff about him and his bud trump and often exclaim Oh Jesus Christ ! Or God damn lunasun May 2018 #56
Meanwhile, Pence henchmen are laying low, whispering Mike's name. oasis May 2018 #57
Maybe more people say "my god what an idiot" drray23 May 2018 #58
Gag me. Lugnut May 2018 #59
If anything, Trump re-enforces my belief there is NO GOD. no_hypocrisy May 2018 #62
More Americans believe in God now so as to be able ask God: WTF? Alethia Merritt May 2018 #63

Matthew28

(1,796 posts)
5. I will say
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:20 PM
May 2018

that in my case that is quite the opposite.

Trump has nearly destroyed any faith I ever had an a god.

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
6. He is a born again something.
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:21 PM
May 2018

Knows how to sling the shit.


Pence was raised in a Catholic family, served as an altar server, and attended parochial school.[4][307] He became a born-again Christian in college, while a member of a nondenominational Christian student group, and identified his first year – and specifically "a Christian music festival in Asbury, Kentucky, in the spring of 1978"[308] referring to the Ichthus Music Festival at then Asbury College in Wilmore, Kentucky – as the moment he made a "commitment to Christ."[4][307] After that point, Pence continued to attend Mass (where he met his wife) and was a Catholic youth minister.[307] Pence called himself Catholic in a 1994 news piece, although by 1995, he and his family had joined an evangelical megachurch, the Grace Evangelical Church.[4][307] In 2013, Pence said his family was "kind of looking for a church."[4] He has described himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order," and as "a born-again, evangelical Catholic."[4][307] Pence's designation as an "evangelical Catholic" means that he is an evangelical Protestant, who considers himself to be catholic in the sense that he identifies with the historic Christian Church, believing that the early ecumenical councils and the Protestant Reformation were both part of the progressive illumination of the Holy Spirit.[309]

When asked by Chris Matthews if he believes in evolution, Pence answered and repeated minutes later, "I believe with all my heart that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that is in them. How he did that, I'll ask him about some day."[219][284] In a 2002 statement on the floor of the House of Representatives (reported in the Congressional Record), Pence told his colleagues "... I also believe that someday scientists will come to see that only the theory of intelligent design provides even a remotely rational explanation for the known universe."[310][311]

Matthew28

(1,796 posts)
7. The guys sick
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:24 PM
May 2018

to throw all the evidence, science and centuries of hard work away means that he is a very evil and screwed up man.

global1

(25,168 posts)
10. I've Been Praying To God To Remove This Guy....
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:37 PM
May 2018

from office. I'm sure a lot of people are doing the same.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
11. Good thing that thou shalt not lie is not one of the big 10
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:46 PM
May 2018

Otherwise, this little perv would be heading to the bad place. All the legitimate polls say just the opposite, especially among the under 30 crowd.

BTW, how does this creep observe Mother’s Day?

Matthew28

(1,796 posts)
13. He already is
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:49 PM
May 2018

the guy has broken most of the 10.

7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not covet.

Initech

(99,915 posts)
16. He's pretty much wiped his ass with the constitution and the 10 commandments.
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:53 PM
May 2018

And given his diet, I'm sure it would take multiple copies of both!

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
12. Americans are becoming less religious, Pence.
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:49 PM
May 2018

Last edited Sun May 13, 2018, 06:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I thought lying was a big offense in the Bible? This administration seems to have issues with that one.

Initech

(99,915 posts)
15. It's time for churches to start paying taxes.
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:51 PM
May 2018

If they want to preach politics, they pay. Otherwise they really need to shut the fuck up.

pwb

(11,205 posts)
18. Republicans praise God , Democrats follow Jesus more.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

Pence and his evangelicals ignore Jesus and still call themselves Christians. Sorry Pence we don't buy you fake religious views any more. Evangelicals have been exposed as phonies.

bluestarone

(16,722 posts)
20. I refuse to pray to his FALSE GOD!!! (RUMP GOLDEN CALF)
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:20 PM
May 2018

I will pray to MY GOD!! WE will see who's God is the TRUE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not worried one bit on this!!!!!!!!!!!!

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
21. The fact that he is VP and Spanky is in the White House have pushed me closer and closer to atheism.
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:24 PM
May 2018

I am an agnostic. You can't prove the existence/non-existence of "God" or gods either way. But, when I see who is now in the highest political offices, I can't help but lean toward "There is no god." I AM sure that the god Pence worships does not exist, however.

Hamlette

(15,394 posts)
41. has nothing to do with proof, it has to do with belief
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:45 PM
May 2018

and agnostic is the socially acceptable way to stay out of the discussion. My bet is you're an atheist like the rest of us.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
43. Nope.
Sun May 13, 2018, 11:07 PM
May 2018

An atheist believes there is no god. An agnostic doesn't know either way. If you have some proof that there is no god, i'd like to see it.

Hamlette

(15,394 posts)
47. key word is "believes"
Mon May 14, 2018, 08:07 PM
May 2018

I don't say "there is no god" I say "I don't believe in god". No proof needed.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
48. For you, that's good enough.
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:21 PM
May 2018

I prefer to have evidence. Like I said, I don't know either way, so I'm not the atheist you claim I am. I have no reason to believe either way.

Hamlette

(15,394 posts)
60. whatever
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:51 AM
May 2018

I don't believe in God but I don't believe there are any agnostics either

I called myself an agnostic for 20 years or so. But then I realized I lived my life like an atheist and couldn't imagine any "proof" that would convince me to believe in God.


GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
65. Whatever.
Tue May 15, 2018, 07:17 AM
May 2018

I honestly don''t care. If you want to argue with someone over agnosticism and atheism, I'm sure there are plenty of takers in the Religion forum. I am not interested. Good day.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
26. Jesus wanted a bigoted con man who fucks around on his pregnant 3rd wife and then ...
Sun May 13, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

... paid hush money to keep it quite.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
32. Pence is running scared. If tRump goes down he gets exposed.
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:34 PM
May 2018

He will say any fucking thing to prop up the orange grifter

RKP5637

(67,032 posts)
33. May Pence please go to hell where he belongs and quit pretending he's a good guy. The guy is
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:48 PM
May 2018

really bad news, a diabolical creature pretending to be a good guy. F is he gross. I'm not a religious person, but I remember from way back being told, beware of those speaking with a false tongue, something like that. Pence is that entity if ever.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. Not proud. I'll pray to anything that throws 45 & Pence the fuck out of out office and our lives.
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:35 PM
May 2018

These "people" are the lowest, noisiest, scummiest, most dangerous bunch of criminals in the history of the United States. They ALL need to be GONE.

gibraltar72

(7,486 posts)
39. Live nearby Hillsdale College.
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:41 PM
May 2018

I have studied them for over 60 years. Hypocrites is them. Many examples to back that claim. The most blatant being College President carrying on long long term affair with his assistant/daughter in law. When she became an inconvenient woman she was suicided. Long sordid story local police destroyed evidence to point Michigan state police said it was worthless. Law And Order did an episode loosely based on the story I believe it was Midvale College. Many Many stories that aren't told.

MurrayDelph

(5,281 posts)
42. I think he's full of shit about more people believing in God
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 PM
May 2018

but I'm willing to bet that since Trump took over more people believe in Hell and the Devil.

lordsummerisle

(4,649 posts)
44. With Trump in office
Sun May 13, 2018, 11:33 PM
May 2018

The Evangelicals supporting him have *completely* lost the moral high ground. Never again will they be able to credibly accuse their opposition of a lack of a moral compass. It's gotten so polarized that if Trump was discovered to have paid for an abortion involving one of his affairs the religious right would somehow find a reason to justify it...

stopbush

(24,378 posts)
45. As a Xian, Pence is predisposed to believing in make believe
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:23 AM
May 2018

so I’m quite sure he believes the make believe he is spouting in this instance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
52. He's probably heard so many people saying things like
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:51 PM
May 2018

"Oh, my God!" or "God help us!" or "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" and has taken these expressions of desperation by people who have been watching their country slide toward despotism and kleptocracy, as an indication that more people believe in God than before Spanky became president.

Alternet is wrong in saying Pants is a devout Catholic. He was at one time but became a born-again fundie loon some years ago.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
56. I read stuff about him and his bud trump and often exclaim Oh Jesus Christ ! Or God damn
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:48 PM
May 2018

But it's just frustration not faith
But I would be willing to lay some non human non animal sacrifice or cash at an alter if it results in them leaving the WH

drray23

(7,587 posts)
58. Maybe more people say "my god what an idiot"
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:42 AM
May 2018

When they see how Trump behaves, but I'm not sure this count as more believers.

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