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alternet.org
Vice President Mike Pence delivered the commencement address to graduating students at a small, private, ultra-conservative Christian college in Michigan Saturday afternoon. Many consider the former Indiana governor a devout Catholic, and his speech certainly supported that perception.
https://www.alternet.org/watch-mike-pence-says-more-americans-believe-god-now-trump-president
dameatball
(7,380 posts)uppityperson
(115,674 posts)And variations on "Holy crap".
rzemanfl
(29,540 posts)UTUSN
(70,497 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,907 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,706 posts)"Jesus Christ!"
elleng
(130,156 posts)'God Help Us!'
Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)n/t
brush
(53,475 posts)Matthew28
(1,796 posts)that in my case that is quite the opposite.
Trump has nearly destroyed any faith I ever had an a god.
dhol82
(9,351 posts)Knows how to sling the shit.
Pence was raised in a Catholic family, served as an altar server, and attended parochial school.[4][307] He became a born-again Christian in college, while a member of a nondenominational Christian student group, and identified his first year and specifically "a Christian music festival in Asbury, Kentucky, in the spring of 1978"[308] referring to the Ichthus Music Festival at then Asbury College in Wilmore, Kentucky as the moment he made a "commitment to Christ."[4][307] After that point, Pence continued to attend Mass (where he met his wife) and was a Catholic youth minister.[307] Pence called himself Catholic in a 1994 news piece, although by 1995, he and his family had joined an evangelical megachurch, the Grace Evangelical Church.[4][307] In 2013, Pence said his family was "kind of looking for a church."[4] He has described himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order," and as "a born-again, evangelical Catholic."[4][307] Pence's designation as an "evangelical Catholic" means that he is an evangelical Protestant, who considers himself to be catholic in the sense that he identifies with the historic Christian Church, believing that the early ecumenical councils and the Protestant Reformation were both part of the progressive illumination of the Holy Spirit.[309]
When asked by Chris Matthews if he believes in evolution, Pence answered and repeated minutes later, "I believe with all my heart that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that is in them. How he did that, I'll ask him about some day."[219][284] In a 2002 statement on the floor of the House of Representatives (reported in the Congressional Record), Pence told his colleagues "... I also believe that someday scientists will come to see that only the theory of intelligent design provides even a remotely rational explanation for the known universe."[310][311]
Matthew28
(1,796 posts)to throw all the evidence, science and centuries of hard work away means that he is a very evil and screwed up man.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,063 posts)of all the people yelling OMG!!! I can't believe this idiot.
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)global1
(25,168 posts)from office. I'm sure a lot of people are doing the same.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Otherwise, this little perv would be heading to the bad place. All the legitimate polls say just the opposite, especially among the under 30 crowd.
BTW, how does this creep observe Mothers Day?
Matthew28
(1,796 posts)the guy has broken most of the 10.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not covet.
Initech
(99,915 posts)And given his diet, I'm sure it would take multiple copies of both!
John Fante
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I thought lying was a big offense in the Bible? This administration seems to have issues with that one.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I wash my hands of it.
Initech
(99,915 posts)If they want to preach politics, they pay. Otherwise they really need to shut the fuck up.
doc03
(35,148 posts)Trump.
pwb
(11,205 posts)Pence and his evangelicals ignore Jesus and still call themselves Christians. Sorry Pence we don't buy you fake religious views any more. Evangelicals have been exposed as phonies.
bluestarone
(16,722 posts)I will pray to MY GOD!! WE will see who's God is the TRUE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not worried one bit on this!!!!!!!!!!!!
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)I am an agnostic. You can't prove the existence/non-existence of "God" or gods either way. But, when I see who is now in the highest political offices, I can't help but lean toward "There is no god." I AM sure that the god Pence worships does not exist, however.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)and agnostic is the socially acceptable way to stay out of the discussion. My bet is you're an atheist like the rest of us.
An atheist believes there is no god. An agnostic doesn't know either way. If you have some proof that there is no god, i'd like to see it.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)I don't say "there is no god" I say "I don't believe in god". No proof needed.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)I prefer to have evidence. Like I said, I don't know either way, so I'm not the atheist you claim I am. I have no reason to believe either way.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)I don't believe in God but I don't believe there are any agnostics either
I called myself an agnostic for 20 years or so. But then I realized I lived my life like an atheist and couldn't imagine any "proof" that would convince me to believe in God.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)I honestly don''t care. If you want to argue with someone over agnosticism and atheism, I'm sure there are plenty of takers in the Religion forum. I am not interested. Good day.
TeamPooka
(24,156 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)But I might when you and Donald are in a cell wearing orange.
Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,649 posts)it should be edited.
Botany
(70,291 posts)... paid hush money to keep it quite.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Freethinker65
(9,934 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)BootinUp
(46,928 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)He will say any fucking thing to prop up the orange grifter
RKP5637
(67,032 posts)really bad news, a diabolical creature pretending to be a good guy. F is he gross. I'm not a religious person, but I remember from way back being told, beware of those speaking with a false tongue, something like that. Pence is that entity if ever.
spanone
(135,636 posts)CanonRay
(14,038 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)These "people" are the lowest, noisiest, scummiest, most dangerous bunch of criminals in the history of the United States. They ALL need to be GONE.
JustAnotherGen
(31,684 posts)Know your right wing Christian Taliban wingnuts.
Let them stay in that bubble.
gibraltar72
(7,486 posts)I have studied them for over 60 years. Hypocrites is them. Many examples to back that claim. The most blatant being College President carrying on long long term affair with his assistant/daughter in law. When she became an inconvenient woman she was suicided. Long sordid story local police destroyed evidence to point Michigan state police said it was worthless. Law And Order did an episode loosely based on the story I believe it was Midvale College. Many Many stories that aren't told.
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,281 posts)but I'm willing to bet that since Trump took over more people believe in Hell and the Devil.
lordsummerisle
(4,649 posts)The Evangelicals supporting him have *completely* lost the moral high ground. Never again will they be able to credibly accuse their opposition of a lack of a moral compass. It's gotten so polarized that if Trump was discovered to have paid for an abortion involving one of his affairs the religious right would somehow find a reason to justify it...
stopbush
(24,378 posts)so Im quite sure he believes the make believe he is spouting in this instance.
JI7
(89,182 posts)roamer65
(36,739 posts)stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)"Oh, my God!" or "God help us!" or "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" and has taken these expressions of desperation by people who have been watching their country slide toward despotism and kleptocracy, as an indication that more people believe in God than before Spanky became president.
Alternet is wrong in saying Pants is a devout Catholic. He was at one time but became a born-again fundie loon some years ago.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Fuck you pence. If anything, more and more kids are running away from the churches.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)But it's just frustration not faith
But I would be willing to lay some non human non animal sacrifice or cash at an alter if it results in them leaving the WH
oasis
(49,152 posts)drray23
(7,587 posts)When they see how Trump behaves, but I'm not sure this count as more believers.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)no_hypocrisy
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