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Why the NRA is so politically aggressive (Original Post) Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 OP
Surprising statistic to me. defacto7 May 2018 #1
Many people do Downtown Hound May 2018 #6
Thanks for the reply. It clarifies the situation. defacto7 May 2018 #13
I don't understand why you are surprised. Blue_true May 2018 #9
Well I'm glad to be updated. defacto7 May 2018 #11
Just 3 percent of Americans own nearly half of the nation's guns. dalton99a May 2018 #2
It's becoming less a hobby thucythucy May 2018 #3
... or an addiction. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #5
Paranoia has a feedback loop ThoughtCriminal May 2018 #7
Personally. Blue_true May 2018 #12
An arsenal need more guns to protect those guns, and those new guns need more guns... . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #14
Exactly. They know they're in the minority, and only MineralMan May 2018 #4
that's why the NRA works so hard to perpetuate fear and paranoia Takket May 2018 #8
Their latest framing (I'm a glutton for punishment who reads RW sites just to see what they r doing. Odoreida May 2018 #10

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
6. Many people do
Sun May 20, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

And that's because of record gun sales in recent years, mostly due to right wing paranoia that Obama was going to order the jack booted thugs to come and seize everybody's guns any minute now. But the truth is, guns are being more and more concentrated in the hands of fewer owners, and those owners today don't own a few hunting rifles or shotguns or whatever like in olden times, they own whole arsenals. It's common gun humper propaganda to state that we have had record gun ownership and yet less gun homicides in recent decades, proving that guns aren't the problem.

What they are not telling you is that we have way less households today that have a gun in them. And if you go back in history and look at the rates of gun violence, it started going down in the 90's. And if you look at the chart above, you can see that the number of households bearing arms went down a full 10% from 1990 to 2012. And what happened during those years? Gun homicides plummeted.

The bottom line is that the gunners are completely full of shit. The evidence is overwhelming that guns not only fail to keep us safe, but that the less armed the population is, the less violence we have. The sad part is that even though that seems logical on the surface, and even though the evidence irrefutably backs it up, you will never get a single one of them to admit it or believe it.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
13. Thanks for the reply. It clarifies the situation.
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:19 PM
May 2018

I seem to have taken too much for granted and not kept my nose in the statistics.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. I don't understand why you are surprised.
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:10 PM
May 2018

The statistic has been out for a while that sonething like 25% of Americans own something like 80% of the guns in the country. There are more people than don't own a gun at all and never have.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. Well I'm glad to be updated.
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:13 PM
May 2018

I haven't until now seen the stats. One gets the feeling that gun ownership is on the rise but the stats overtide the impression.

dalton99a

(81,091 posts)
2. Just 3 percent of Americans own nearly half of the nation's guns.
Sun May 20, 2018, 11:59 AM
May 2018
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/gun-ownership-america-super-owners/
This Is the Craziest Stat About Gun Ownership In America
Meet the firearm “super owners.”
Bryan Schatz Sep. 19, 2016 9:26 PM

Just 3 percent of Americans own nearly half of the nation’s guns. That’s one of the major findings from what researchers are calling the most authoritative survey on guns in more than two decades. According to the Guardian, which received the an advance copy of the survey, “super owners”—some 7.7 million Americans—own between 8 and 140 guns apiece, 17 on average.

In a series of interviews, researchers at Harvard University and Northeastern University found that super owners are made up of firearms instructors, gunsmiths, collectors, competitive shooters, and preppers. Some have separate rooms in their homes to display their collections; others hoard them alongside water, food, and other survival gear in case disaster strikes. Collectively, they own approximately 130 million of the country’s estimated 265 million guns. (Other estimates put the total closer to 350 million.)

As surprising as that may sound, concentrated ownership is common for most products. The Guardian points out that, according to market experts, the most dedicated 20 percent of consumers typically buy up 80 percent of any given product. The survey’s lead author, Deborah Azrael of the Harvard School of Public Health, says that there’s no research stating “whether owning a large number of guns is a greater risk factor than owning a few guns.”

The new data also sheds more light on the shrinking proportion of Americans who own guns, which dropped from 25 percent in 1994 to 22 percent in 2015, when the survey was conducted. A recent Mother Jones investigation into the nation’s 10 biggest gunmakers noted similar findings: While gun ownership is on the decline, gun owners are stockpiling weapons in record numbers, keeping aloft the nearly $8 billion firearms industry.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,011 posts)
7. Paranoia has a feedback loop
Sun May 20, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

When I've asked why so many guns? The answer I get seems to be consistent along the lines of imagining situations where one particular gun might not be the right one. Apparently, zombies require a different range of weapons from say a combined North Korean/Cuban invasion or a person who claims to be a UPS driver but looks Mexican.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. Personally.
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:17 PM
May 2018

If I came after the gun hoarders, I would just take a B1, drop a huge-assed bomb on them and their guns, call it a day. And send congratulations and cookies to them if I find out that they survived.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
4. Exactly. They know they're in the minority, and only
Sun May 20, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

political power can prevent gun control laws. That's why they are so actively funding gun rights candidates.

With any luck, the NRA's time is about to run out.

Takket

(21,425 posts)
8. that's why the NRA works so hard to perpetuate fear and paranoia
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:01 PM
May 2018

if less households are owning guns they need to sell more guns to the households that do own them. So they keep creating the boogeymen (blacks/muslims/democrats) and the byproduct is eventually that paranoia boils over into violence (Dylan Roof, Charlottesville, etc).

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
10. Their latest framing (I'm a glutton for punishment who reads RW sites just to see what they r doing.
Sun May 20, 2018, 04:13 PM
May 2018

Get ready to hear this a lot.

"Civilian disarmament" instead of "gun control".

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