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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon May 28, 2018, 12:04 PM May 2018

Important Followup to the 1500 kids twitter thread: "let me say a little bit more to try to clarify"

1) ORR has exclusive jurisdiction over unaccompanied minors (UACs). they are not under ICE's jurisdiction. ICE may apprehend them but then they are given to ORR.

2) ORR is under Health and Human Services not Department of Homeland Security because the idea was that UACs are a vulnerable population and we don't want them under ICE's purview because, as we know, ICE is full of evil people.

3) Traditionally, information given to ORR was NOT shared with ICE. Because authorities realized that these kids would never be able to get a sponsor (90% of the time the sponsor is a family member) if ORR threatened that person with deportation.

But that's been changing under Trump, as I'm sure no one is surprised to know. And as of May 13th, ICE and ORR are working together officially now. The govt released a Memorandum of Agreement about it. Thanks to my bad ass friends I have the PDF but can't find it online. Anyone?

Anyway, what this means is that if a kid is under ORR's care and needs a sponsor, ICE will now run background checks on that sponsor.

So if you're undocumented and your aunt is undocumented, she now basically can't sponsor you because the minute she tries, she'll be placed in removal proceedings. This is another reason you don't want ORR tracking everyone all the time!!

also, kids in ORR custody can essentially stay detained indefinitely. NYCLU - including one of my aforementioned amazing friends - has brought some cases about this.

AND I saw a few responses saying that ORR isn't like jail because the kids aren't facing deportation/removal. But this is false. Kids come to ORR through ICE. ICE orders them to appear for removal hearings within a few months of them being in ORR custody.

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Important Followup to the 1500 kids twitter thread: "let me say a little bit more to try to clarify" (Original Post) oberliner May 2018 OP
And now they separating the kids, previously the kids held were older and had shown up alone, also bettyellen May 2018 #1
Yes, that is shameful, despicable and awful oberliner May 2018 #2
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. And now they separating the kids, previously the kids held were older and had shown up alone, also
Mon May 28, 2018, 12:16 PM
May 2018

Those seeking asylum are being detained when they weren’t previously.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. Yes, that is shameful, despicable and awful
Mon May 28, 2018, 12:20 PM
May 2018

As she wrote in her earlier thread that I posted.

To quote her directly:

"Trumps immigration policy is disgusting. His separation of kids and parents at the border is SICKENING. He’s a tyrant."

Separate from that, though, it is important to understand why some sponsors might not want to respond when called by ORR or ICE.

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