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Tue May 29, 2018, 01:51 PM

America's Presidents, Ranked

Trump is making Buchanan look competent https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/05/americas-presidents-ranked/

Thereís a new poll of presidential experts out that ranks our nationís chief executives, and Lincoln leads the list with an average rating of 95.03 out of 100. William Henry Harrison got a score of 19.02. I decided to rescale the whole thing going from 0 to 100, with Lincoln on top at Harrison at zero, since, letís face it, Harrison is sort of zero by definition, right? Besides, I think it also more accurately represents the bottom of the range too.

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Gothmog May 2018 OP
Gothmog May 2018 #1
muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #4
muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #6
Gothmog May 2018 #7
inanna May 2018 #2
Iliyah May 2018 #3
bearsfootball516 May 2018 #5
Glorfindel May 2018 #8
rock May 2018 #9

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 01:55 PM

1. Trump does not do well even with conservatives

This from the study https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Greatness.pdf

The rankings generated by Republicans and those who self-identified as eitherc onservative or somewhat conservative had greater differences from the overall list, however. Republicans were significantly less favorable to Barack Obama, rating him 16th, as well as to Lyndon Johnson (19th), James Madison (22nd), John F. Kennedy (24th), and Jimmy Carter (32nd). They were considerably more favorably disposed to William McKinley (9th), George H.W. Bush (11th), James Polk (13th), William Howard Taft (14th), Calvin Coolidge (21st), George W. Bush (23rd), Herbert Hoover (30th), and Martin Van Buren (33rd). Self-identified conservatives and somewhat conservatives are largely the same population and thus generally consistent with the Republican pattern, though that group is also unfavorably disposed to Woodrow Wilson, dropping him from 12th place to 21st , and Ulysses S. Grant (down to 27th), but more favorable to James Monroe, moving him up from 18th overall to 12th. Both groups are somewhat more favorable, though not overwhelmingly so, to Donald Trump, ranking him 40th in each case, compared to the overall ranking of 44th.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #1)

Tue May 29, 2018, 02:00 PM

4. Sing it with me: "Don't know what you've got till it's gone ..."

After these first seven places, however, there are several significant changes from 2014. Barack Obama now occupies the 8th slot (71.13), up ten places from 2014.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #1)

Tue May 29, 2018, 02:05 PM

6. I just noticed - conservatives ranked GW Bush above Kennedy???

That's outrageous.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #6)

Tue May 29, 2018, 02:40 PM

7. They are crazy

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 01:56 PM

2. The Shitler ain't gonna like this!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 01:59 PM

3. LOL, and I bet t-rump talks to himself via mirror of how

wonderful he is . . .

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 02:01 PM

5. History is not going to remember Trump fondly.

When it's all said and done, there won't be a single credible political ranking that doesn't have him in the bottom 3 or 5.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 02:48 PM

8. It hardly seems fair to rank W. H. Harrison and James A. Garfield at all

They were both in office for such a short time, and Garfield spent most of his time in office dying, slowly and excruciatingly. Having said that, the list looks pretty good to me, though I'd rate Reagan much lower. Maybe swap places with Reagan and Polk. Thanks for a very interesting post, Gothmog!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2018, 03:47 PM

9. All in all

I find the graph reasonable and fairly accurate.

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