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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAvenatti back on TV already.
Hmm. He got criticized a bit by the Judge today over his "publicity tour," but he's back on TV already. I know he decided not to get involved with the Cohen hearing so maybe that's why he's doing it. Still figured he'd take a break.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)he's not constrained from going on TV.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)He said on Ari's show that one of the tapes definitely has Orange Anus on with Cohen. He didn't say what was discussed, but it's got to be some good shit.
lamp_shade
(14,796 posts)Link to tweet
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)What is he arguing at this point? Is it still that Trump should let SD out of the NDA? Didn't she already go on TV and tell her story? What truth is he searching for?
malaise
(267,799 posts)I say go for it
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I just literally don't know what he means in terms of what he is fighting for with respect to his client at this point. What does Stormy Daniels want right now?
malaise
(267,799 posts)but Avenatti is the reason they have the buffoon noun/verb/9/11 all over cable and network TV making a fool of himself. Go Avenatti!!
Kingofalldems
(38,360 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I thought there was a separate defamation lawsuit against Trump for accusing SD of lying about the goons, in addition to the lawsuit against Cohen with respect to the legality of the NDA. (And a third defamation lawsuit against Cohen as well?)
shanny
(6,709 posts)--is on a crusade. It ain't just money (although money is always nice) it's personal. TRump and his goons threatened her, she hates/despises him and it's payback time.
As she said on SNL in response to the question from tRump/Alec Baldwin, "how can I make this go away? She answered, "Resign."
They say all comedy has an element of truth. I think she meant it, and I think that is why Avenatti has been "unleashed."
chowder66
(9,010 posts)He is concerned about SD's previous lawyer working (against SD) with Cohen and wants information to come out about this as well.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)What is the best case scenario for Avenatti and Daniels?
chowder66
(9,010 posts)He is trying to prove that Cohen's NDA is invalid and in the process is exposing Cohen (and Trump's) lies and cover up.
SD also has a defamation lawsuit against Cohen, I think.
Then there is the matter of the physical threat. Avenatti doesn't like that these men have used their power to intimidate her and to try to shut her up.
So, the best case scenario is to show that the NDA is invalid, that there was a cover up and prove SD has been telling the truth. I suppose this could also help the other women who may have had NDA's with Cohen and (Dennison) lol.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Though it does seem like the NDA has already been rendered functionally invalid at this point.
chowder66
(9,010 posts)that prohibit her from other actions. Either way, she does need to get that resolved so she is not sued by people with a lot more money than her [on edit] down the road.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)I think he fashions himself a bit of a crusader for truth with respect to the crimes of Donald J. Trump, wishing to take whatever evidence he can uncover that implicates Trump in criminal activity and introducing it directly to the people. I see it as a dangerous but potentially effective strategy to refute the propaganda and lies of the right. I trust his judgment to know where lines are drawn, legally, and to honor and abide by those lines. I think his action today - to withdraw from further involvement with the ongoing Cohen criminal case - aligns with that sentiment.
Mr. Avenatti is a media spokesperson first and an attorney second. He used to latter to access the former.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am not entirely sure I agree with that assessment but it does seem reasonable.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)between Cohen and Daniels' former lawyer, Davidson, in which Davidson discloses to Cohen material protected by the attorney-client privilege. He does not want that tape disclosed to the public because of information it contains, which is a reasonable concern. He does want the other tapes disclosed to the public but I don't know that he's in a position to demand that.
manor321
(3,344 posts)He's one of the heroes of this story.
And Kimba Wood can go take a short walk on a long pier for trying to shut down his first amendment rights.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)and make statements that could jeopardize a person's right to a fair trial if that lawyer is representing another party in that case. He's perfectly free to say whatever he wants about Cohen (that isn't defamatory) as long as he's not involved in Cohen's case. The rules of professional conduct of the NY Bar specifically prohibit a lawyer who is involved in a case from making any public statement that might be prejudicial toward a party in the case:
" (a) A lawyer who is participating in or has participated in a criminal or civil
matter shall not make an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or reasonably
should know will be disseminated by means of public communication and will have a
substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding in the matter."
And more, here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10674351
The judge is following the law. She told Avenatti, in accordance with the rules of professional conduct and the court's duty to protect the rights of a probable criminal defendant, that he could choose between getting involved in the Cohen case or talking about it on tv. He chose tv.
onenote
(42,374 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,360 posts)LakeArenal
(28,713 posts)Call him a camera hound and a publicity stunt.
Whatever it takes, hes smart and cagey. Hes on the right side as far as Im concerned.
And hes great to look at.
monmouth4
(9,663 posts)spanone
(135,632 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Wrapping up a heated one-hour hearing this morning, U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood emphasized that the proceedings here are a potential precursor to a criminal trial if charges are filed against Mr. Cohen.
I either want you to participate, or not be in the matter at all, Wood told attorney Michael Avenatti. I dont want you to have some existence in a limbo where youre free to denigrate Mr. Cohen, and I believe potentially deprive him of a fair trial by tainting a jury pool. I know a jury, if there is one, is way down the road, and memories certainly may fade, but this conduct is inimicable to giving Mr. Cohen eventually a fair trial.
The dressing-down came after Cohens attorney Stephen Ryan urged the court to exclude California-based Avenatti from the proceedings.
https://www.courthousenews.com/lawyer-for-stormy-daniels-paints-cohen-as-leaker-at-hearing/
Tarc
(10,472 posts)Why is that, you think?
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)tazkcmo
(7,286 posts)It was interesting hearing Donald reading the transcripts of the hearing and exciting to hear about the tapes. Just when I was thinking what a great segment that was, on comes Jill Winebanks to give her comments on it all.
But wait! There's more!
The trio then went on and had a Ghouliani slam fest.
I love Donald's show.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Geez, that's good pot...
Lawrence I meant. Lol
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sorry - that was my foolishness - I get it now.
Thanks for pointing it out. Peace.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... context and was asserting Avenatti couldn't be so public if he was actually taking a part in the proceedings, that's it.
Come on, there was no criticism about his actions
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I either want you to participate, or not be in the matter at all, Wood told attorney Michael Avenatti. I dont want you to have some existence in a limbo where youre free to denigrate Mr. Cohen, and I believe potentially deprive him of a fair trial by tainting a jury pool. I know a jury, if there is one, is way down the road, and memories certainly may fade, but this conduct is inimicable to giving Mr. Cohen eventually a fair trial.
https://www.courthousenews.com/lawyer-for-stormy-daniels-paints-cohen-as-leaker-at-hearing/
triron
(21,914 posts)He has a right to disagree. OTOH perhaps the judge was trying to give
an appearance of fairness to Cohen's attorneys.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... right?
What you posted is in the context of Avenatti being a part of the proceedings.
I read what LO read
fallout87
(819 posts)because he had to choose between TV time and court.
That really tells us what kind of a lawyer he is.
Ambulance chaser at its finest.