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Bombshell from Michael Avenatti: (Original Post) Kingofalldems May 2018 OP
Can't wait to hear these tapes manor321 May 2018 #1
I'm a little tired of the bombshells Funtatlaguy May 2018 #2
I'm the same way, I'm getting a little numb to it. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #6
I'm afraid he may truly be Teflon Don. Funtatlaguy May 2018 #8
My neighbor calls him the Teflon Tapeworm meow2u3 May 2018 #13
Took the words out of my mouth berksdem May 2018 #18
Yes, that and another shoe just dropped. C Moon May 2018 #21
I don't know about moving Trump's numbers, but I loved love bombshells...trickle trickle... Demsrule86 May 2018 #26
Thanks, King! - I was just thinking, let's see, if not for Mr. Avenatti, we wouldn't know about Leghorn21 May 2018 #3
Unless you were reading the news in January.... jberryhill May 2018 #5
Yes, sorry; I was referring to May 8, when Avenatti's news of Novartis and AT&T and Vekselberg etc. Leghorn21 May 2018 #12
Don't forget, his client and her baby were threatened Kingofalldems May 2018 #4
What are you suggesting by mentioning this? ProudLib72 May 2018 #7
I don't know but he's right to be fighting for her. Kingofalldems May 2018 #10
Not "his client" anymore... regnaD kciN May 2018 #11
That's incorrect jberryhill May 2018 #15
Which everyone thinks is highly amusing and awesome B2G May 2018 #17
You are going to be busy on this one. Lol grantcart May 2018 #22
the reason he is backing out of the Cohen case azureblue May 2018 #28
Why Cohen Made itcfish May 2018 #35
There's video too - it was in the special master's report filed yesterday jberryhill May 2018 #9
Surveillance video from the assault? alphafemale May 2018 #30
Sure hope so. triron May 2018 #31
If Trump can claim Obama spies had infiltrated his campaign without an iota of proof Mr. Ected May 2018 #14
The discussion on The Beat was extremely interesting. triron May 2018 #16
Lol...I would be more surprised if Trump wasn't on any of them cbdo2007 May 2018 #19
I admire Avanetti and appreciate all he has done so far. He's got nerve something in short supply redstateblues May 2018 #20
I wonder if that's privileged information. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #23
Avenatti has a good track record uponit7771 May 2018 #24
He certainly does. Kingofalldems May 2018 #25
Until we know what is on the tape, this is not a bombshell. LonePirate May 2018 #27
Nothing they do is aboveboard. Kingofalldems May 2018 #29
Oh Donny Boy, the tapes, the tapes are calling... Blue Owl May 2018 #32
Well, let's hope DT is spilling Cha May 2018 #33
They kept asking him how he knew, if he had heard them, or if someone told him bucolic_frolic May 2018 #34

Funtatlaguy

(10,855 posts)
2. I'm a little tired of the bombshells
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:34 PM
May 2018

When will one explode ?
When will something matter enuf to move Trumps numbers into the twenties?

bearsfootball516

(6,369 posts)
6. I'm the same way, I'm getting a little numb to it.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:44 PM
May 2018

If these bombshells are real, great. But it would be nice to actually see something instead of hearing “Oh, we’ve got him this time!” And then nothing ever comes of it.

Funtatlaguy

(10,855 posts)
8. I'm afraid he may truly be Teflon Don.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:47 PM
May 2018

There are so many stupid and poorly informed or manipulated people.
They love the guy.
They won’t believe or will ignore or make excuses for anything he does.

berksdem

(593 posts)
18. Took the words out of my mouth
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:25 PM
May 2018

Becoming a bit sour on the "bombshell" term seemingly always being used. Until something sticks I am not sure of anything these days. Agent Orange, I fear, is as close to as being untouchable as one can get. I have hope that he will go down but that hope is fleeting

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
26. I don't know about moving Trump's numbers, but I loved love bombshells...trickle trickle...
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:21 PM
May 2018

Trump is a criminal.

Leghorn21

(13,520 posts)
3. Thanks, King! - I was just thinking, let's see, if not for Mr. Avenatti, we wouldn't know about
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:35 PM
May 2018

Essential Consultants LLC and all the slimy nasty delicious CASH MONEY flowing in from Novartis and AT&T ETC. and, in one instance that we know of, flowing out to one Stormy Daniels,

and if not for Mr. Avenatti, we wouldn’t be looking at old cspan footage and seeing Viktor Vekselberg wandering into Trump Tower for a - presumed - meeting with Michael Cohen, eh?

So if Mr. Avenatti says there’s recordings, well then, OH HELL YEAH.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Unless you were reading the news in January....
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/michael-cohen-stormy-daniels-essential-consultants-llc/index.html

WSJ: Cohen paid porn star through private LLC created just weeks before election
Sophie Tatum

By Sophie Tatum
Updated 2:20 PM ET, Fri January 19, 2018

...

The company, Essential Consultants LLC, was reportedly created in Delaware -- which offers a higher standard of privacy to business owners -- by attorney Michael Cohen, according to the Journal's report, which cited corporate records and people familiar with the matter.

The Wall Street Journal first reported last week that Cohen had paid the former porn star, Stephanie Clifford, known as Stormy Daniels, $130,000 in exchange for her silence about the alleged encounter. Following that report, Cohen said in a statement that Trump "vehemently denies" any encounter between the two.

Leghorn21

(13,520 posts)
12. Yes, sorry; I was referring to May 8, when Avenatti's news of Novartis and AT&T and Vekselberg etc.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:59 PM
May 2018

$$$$ was found to have been sent to Cohen’s Essential Consultants LLC

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/daniels-lawyer-cohen-got-500k-russian-oligarch-viktor-vekselberg-n872481

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. What are you suggesting by mentioning this?
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:47 PM
May 2018

Do you think there is a recording of the Rump giving Cohen instructions to mess with Stormy? If that turns out to be true...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. That's incorrect
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:16 PM
May 2018

He represents Daniels in the litigation over the hush agreement taking place in California (and currently stayed until at least the end of June).

He had requested to intervene in the matter of the Cohen search warrants in order to prevent disclosure of material which Cohen may have had in relation to his dealings with Daniels over the hush agreement. At the request of the US prosecutors, that motion to intervene has been held in abeyance (i.e. not acted on by the court by agreement of the parties).

People are understandably confused about what role he has in the Cohen investigation, which is primarily to get his hands on things that prosecutors have known about for a long time, and to publicly disclose them, while seeking to avoid disclosure of his own client's communications held with Cohen.


 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
17. Which everyone thinks is highly amusing and awesome
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:24 PM
May 2018

Until he completely fucks up the case against Cohen.

I can't believe the prosecutors don't want to lock him in a broom closet.

azureblue

(2,129 posts)
28. the reason he is backing out of the Cohen case
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:35 PM
May 2018

Is because the judge told him to make choice- stay off TV or be part of the case. Mike got into trouble with the judge for what amounts to pre judging Cohen. And Mike, being the wise person he is, decided that being on TV is more advantageous to his client than digging through the FBI's Cohen records, backed down. He does know that Cohen made a lot of recordings of conversations, and Trump is on one of them. MA's interest is if Cohen and Trump were talking about Stormy, or the payoff, or possibly another woman to whom Cohen made a payoff for Trump. If there was anything like this, it would make his case for Stormy a slam dunk. And open other doors for other women who Trump paid for sex. Plus, it would clear the way for a clean release from the NDA, which is already on shaky ground.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. There's video too - it was in the special master's report filed yesterday
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:48 PM
May 2018

Had anyone bothered to look at yesterday's special master's report cataloguing the evidence. Have a look at bottom of page two to the top of page three:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.491943/gov.uscourts.nysd.491943.65.0.pdf

May 21: Electronic data from a video recorder, two computers, and mobile storage devices. This data includes various video, electronic communications and documents as well as data typically associated with computer usage.
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
30. Surveillance video from the assault?
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:50 PM
May 2018

I said weeks ago this would probably exist.

Gyms are a major assault place for stalkers since women generally go at the same time every day and clubs want to have security.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
14. If Trump can claim Obama spies had infiltrated his campaign without an iota of proof
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

Then I have no problem with a liberal attorney forcefully and efficaciously broadcasting a distinct counterpoint to Trump's mendacity. We don't just need Michael Avenatti's fire to charge us up; we need countervailing voices to offset the deluge of lies and fabrications from the right.

Time will tell, but I think Avenatti's allegation that Trump has been captured on at least one audio-taped conversation with Cohen will be born out by the evidence.

triron

(21,914 posts)
16. The discussion on The Beat was extremely interesting.
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:18 PM
May 2018

All I can say is anything Avenatti can do to fuck up Trump et al I am all for.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
19. Lol...I would be more surprised if Trump wasn't on any of them
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:34 PM
May 2018

They were business associates, thanks for the info Captain obvious. Lol

Just leak the tapes already so we can all move on with our lives. Avenetti is gonna have one hell of a book when he's done with all this.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
20. I admire Avanetti and appreciate all he has done so far. He's got nerve something in short supply
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:39 PM
May 2018

in our political landscape.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. I wonder if that's privileged information.
Wed May 30, 2018, 08:52 PM
May 2018

One way he would know that is if Trump's lawyers asked for any communications directly with Trump be identified to be reviewed for privilege, and Cohen's lawyers or the state's lawyers provided a list which included one tape recording.

If that's privileged information, he's in trouble. But maybe only the substance is privileged, not the fact that there is a recording.

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
27. Until we know what is on the tape, this is not a bombshell.
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:22 PM
May 2018

Cohen was his lawyer. Cohen had tapes and he was on at least one of them. This is not surprising and it certainly is not a bombshell. How do we know the content of the tape isn't something mundane like drawing up some legitimate paperwork?

I am not trying to defend 45. I am trying to temper expectations. The possibility exists the tapes contain nothing illegal regardless of how much we want.

bucolic_frolic

(42,659 posts)
34. They kept asking him how he knew, if he had heard them, or if someone told him
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:11 PM
May 2018

he won't tell ... and I doubt it's either of those sources. I think he's probably heard a piece of testimony or press conference where someone let something slip that everyone in America missed, but Avenatti drew the implication logically and put 2 and 2 together. Again.

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