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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:10 PM Jun 2018

It's all a flim-flam. We are being played.

Trump shows up with no physicists or scientists of any kind. No sanctions experts. No Korea diplomatic experts. No secretary to official notes. We're supposed to just trust them. It's just a photo op for Trump, where he will claim tremendous success. They will declare it a great accomplishment and peace is near. Great progress is being made. blah blah blah But there will be no details. No timeline. Just a con man's bullshit flim-flam.

I feel disgusted with it. Really sorry I tuned in to watch it.

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It's all a flim-flam. We are being played. (Original Post) vlyons Jun 2018 OP
Mission accomplished Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #1
That's exactly the plan drray23 Jun 2018 #2
Eugene Robinson was practically kissing Trump's ass. triron Jun 2018 #37
God, no thegoose Jun 2018 #50
Maybe Michael Cohen showed Trump how to record it on his iPhone. TeamPooka Jun 2018 #3
Then you just missed Dennis Rodman JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #4
Excuse me but what about Dennis Rodman??? progressoid Jun 2018 #5
He'll have a driver in Singapore so no chance for a DUI. jalan48 Jun 2018 #7
Peace ends in Singapore. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #9
What a travesty. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #6
"We'll see." Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #8
Of course we're being conned..... dawnie51 Jun 2018 #10
Wait til the Dumpster starts bloviating about high ratings. LuckyLib Jun 2018 #11
And telling us this is the single greatest, most Golden Raisin Jun 2018 #32
Everything he does is a freaking show nini Jun 2018 #12
And middle school theater, at that. n/t Beartracks Jun 2018 #24
Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint. lancelyons Jun 2018 #13
I have reached the point where it is impossible to look or listen Enoki33 Jun 2018 #14
Ditto lunatica Jun 2018 #48
"We" aren't the ones being played. n/t woundedkarma Jun 2018 #15
As long as all we do is get outraged we definitely are getting played. lunatica Jun 2018 #49
It's just a reality show photo op kimbutgar Jun 2018 #16
The sad thing is, it's working. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2018 #17
Not me vlyons Jun 2018 #18
Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing ho keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #27
Yes, just like the Repug tax bill... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #33
Of course not you. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2018 #35
Right. Results are all that matters. NK has made many promises to us before & lied. 7962 Jun 2018 #39
Your liberal friends are naive Juliusseizure Jun 2018 #47
Trump's Reality Program Goes International Ccarmona Jun 2018 #19
Well, maybe SOME are being conned FakeNoose Jun 2018 #20
been saying that for over a month Hamlette Jun 2018 #21
Absolutely. Flim flam photo op. TryLogic Jun 2018 #22
And the media will eat it up and vomit back out all over us day after day. Kablooie Jun 2018 #23
Yes. Heard on tv he already had his post-mtg speech ready to go..claiming success. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #25
All that being said...that is not the worst outcome of this charade. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #26
yep! I certainly hope the meeting is successful renate Jun 2018 #29
Yep workinclasszero Jun 2018 #28
To paraphrase Lawrence O'Donnell... IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2018 #30
Same bullshit... Different topic world wide wally Jun 2018 #31
Yep. Like fucking Groundhog Day. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #42
Un, Trump, and Rodman are gathering for the Three Stooges revival. Efilroft Sul Jun 2018 #34
Of course it is. ooky Jun 2018 #36
MSM talk on and on and on for hours. moondust Jun 2018 #38
I already figured that this fraud StarzGuy Jun 2018 #40
I've been watching the news and the press coverage is not good TNLib Jun 2018 #41
Well played vlad Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #43
PUTIN WINS AGAIN BadGimp Jun 2018 #44
And not being played well. Orsino Jun 2018 #45
It was all Blather and Bullshit... Raster Jun 2018 #46
Evelyn Farkas .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #51
I think this whole thing is about the midterms DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #52
You forgot the con man's bullshit film flam KPN Jun 2018 #53
The whole thing looks staged KrazyinKS Jun 2018 #54
I just don't see the benefit of assuming the worst. Life is depressing enough. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #55

drray23

(7,587 posts)
2. That's exactly the plan
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jun 2018

And the deplorable will lap it it up. Probably a few pundits as well. Disgusting.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
50. God, no
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jun 2018

Did he really? This is such fucking bullshit. If Robinson is buying the Con's shit, it's another sad day for whatever country we have left.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
8. "We'll see."
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jun 2018

His big reply. Meanwhile, "Now, I'm going golfing for a few months and I'm billing it to YOU GUYS."

dawnie51

(959 posts)
10. Of course we're being conned.....
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jun 2018

Dump no doubt has a woody right this minute, on every channel, endless camera time, world wide. Nothing will be said, or done, and he will bask in the glory of being himself, which is nirvana for a narcissist like him.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
13. Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint.

Perhaps Trump asked for some hacking help in the mid terms.

If he says we will pull all our troops out of the region, we will have lost and betrayed our allies.

If we have peace announced then thats a win for the NK since peace in the region undermines the reason US is in South Korea.

Enoki33

(1,584 posts)
14. I have reached the point where it is impossible to look or listen
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

to any of the absurdity, vileness and absolute ignorance spewing from tRump’s foul mouth. He does not exist beyond what news, and other information l choose to read. That is how l will retain a sense of reality while working for a better tomorrow. And yes, it really is a flim - flam.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
48. Ditto
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jun 2018

If you want to know the truth it is necessary to avoid listening to Trump. He’s the master spinner on steroids. Listening to him leads to one of two places. You either believe his shit like the deplorables or you get violently ill.

It’s time to get serious and know the truth. Anything else is only a distraction. Outrage doesn’t cut it anymore.

kimbutgar

(20,876 posts)
16. It's just a reality show photo op
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jun 2018

Everyday PT Barnum twitler has to distract the ignorant masses to keep them energized in their support of him.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,461 posts)
17. The sad thing is, it's working.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:31 PM
Jun 2018

Even many of my liberal friends are saying things like “I hate Тяцмр but you have to give it up for him here.”

I don’t want to say it but I sure am thinking it.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Not me
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jun 2018

Show me the results. Show me the written and signed agreement. There isn't any. It's bullshit.

keithbvadu2

(36,362 posts)
27. Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing ho
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jun 2018

Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing how honorable Donald is in keeping his word?

With Bolton expressing his preference for a ‘Libya solution’, where the leader of Libya was killed.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
33. Yes, just like the Repug tax bill...
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jun 2018

Loaded up-front with lies, flim-flam and deception for the show. Give it ten years, then we'll discuss end results. Of course by then, this reality show will have been long ago canceled.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,461 posts)
35. Of course not you.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:06 AM
Jun 2018

You’re plugged in, most people aren’t. Which is how we ended up here in the first place.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
39. Right. Results are all that matters. NK has made many promises to us before & lied.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jun 2018

So lets see if this is different. I doubt it

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
47. Your liberal friends are naive
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jun 2018

Do we not recognize that Trump is full of shit and loyal only to those who pay him off (Russia/China/oligarchs).

The only thing Trump appears to have done is deter outright NK aggression by appearing willing to bomb the whole region into oblivion. That was a bluff. The NK aggression was a bluff too.

This is what bullies do. They instill fear to control the other and test reaction.

North Korean dictator appears to have backed off. In fact, he’s just strategizing with China, and maybe even Russia, playing peacemaker.

I fully expect China and/or Russia to have some arrangement with Trump thats money related. We’ve already seen Trump try to get that Chinese telecom company thats a spy network into the US. He trolled G7 for Putin. Trump is playing along. He won’t get anything resembling a peace deal,but he’ll play it up as a grand accomplishment.

The US may be doomed because too many people are infantile, vapid and shallow, haven’t learned from history, immersed in commercialized simple answers created to satisfy dopamine receptors, eat up Trump’s marketing ability, lack a moral foundation, lack the effort to think in depth or comprehend long term consequences.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
19. Trump's Reality Program Goes International
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jun 2018

A mayonnaise & ketchup sandwich has more substance than this charade.
NK is legitimatized and Trump gets Bupkus but his string puller is very happy in Moscow.

FakeNoose

(32,345 posts)
20. Well, maybe SOME are being conned
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:48 PM
Jun 2018

... but we DUers saw through this from the get-go.

I really wish the intelligent people at MSNBC weren't playing it up like the pikers at Faux News are.
I know they know better.

Hamlette

(15,388 posts)
21. been saying that for over a month
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:55 PM
Jun 2018

Trump's base and Fox news will agree, he brought peace to the Korean peninsula, ended a 70 year old war, etc.

it will be unbearable.

TryLogic

(1,721 posts)
22. Absolutely. Flim flam photo op.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jun 2018

And, he is making "great progress," so he/Trump "must not be impeached" as that would ruin such a "great opportunity" to work out a deal with N Korea. The con man is playing us.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
23. And the media will eat it up and vomit back out all over us day after day.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jun 2018

And votes for Republicans will increase.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
26. All that being said...that is not the worst outcome of this charade.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jun 2018

My worry was that it would turn out to be very acrimonious, end up with one or both storming away from the table and making things worse than they've been in decades.

Compounding that "worse" would be the WH crowing about T
ough guy Cred.

renate

(13,776 posts)
29. yep! I certainly hope the meeting is successful
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jun 2018

I suspect Trump is going to get played, with his profound lack of preparation and absolute lack of knowledge, but I hope it all goes well. I certainly don't want them to get into a pissing match.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. Yep
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jun 2018

I bet Putin, Dump and rocket man set it all up weeks ago.

Trump stabs the western alliance in the back at G7 then pulls this BS con with NK a day later.

Whatever Trump does it ALWAYS benefits Putin and mother Russia!

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,072 posts)
30. To paraphrase Lawrence O'Donnell...
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jun 2018

... when two liars meet, which liar do we believe in the morning?

He was speaking of that as his time slot began.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
42. Yep. Like fucking Groundhog Day.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jun 2018

Spanky stages a production, claiming some sort of phony achievement.

The cult cheers, the media fawns over him, many on the left wring their hands and gnash their teeth.

Those of us who have been paying attention for the past 30 years sit back and wait for the rest to realize that the whole thing was nothing but a stage production that only made things worse for this country. (Well, except for the cult. They'll never figure it out.)

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Same shit. Different day.

Efilroft Sul

(3,573 posts)
34. Un, Trump, and Rodman are gathering for the Three Stooges revival.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jun 2018

I hope somebody litters on the street and makes it look like one of the three did it.

StarzGuy

(254 posts)
40. I already figured that this fraud
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:04 AM
Jun 2018

would make a no deal, deal and call it a success. It's a complete fraud and no one in their right mind should accept this as anything else.

The US is in deep doo-doo.

The lame media also gets a huuuuge chunk of the blame for sucking up to this tool and refuse to do any of their own investigation. Damn it.

What will it take to remove this MF from office? It is going to damage the station of the US in the world.

God help us all....

And I am an atheist!

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
41. I've been watching the news and the press coverage is not good
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jun 2018

I can't see how pulling our military out of SK, with nothing in return is going to play well with the military or former military. But it's starting to feel like Bizzaro world where our Nato Allies are US enemies and Russian, China and NK are now US allies.
This shit is moving fast. We are living in scary times.



Orsino

(37,428 posts)
45. And not being played well.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

The only people this will fool are those with an interest in being fooled. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of them.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
51. Evelyn Farkas ....
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jun 2018

Is actually holding out hope, and wants to "see" what happens moving foreword between tRump & Kim Jong-Un. Wants to see what's in the details of the agreement fatso 1 & fatso 2 signed 🙄

PJ. Crowley, who I'd have though would have had a more discerning eye, wants to also give tRump the benefit of the doubt, because he feels that amongst other things, tRump MIGHT be getting Kim Jong-un comfortable enough before a world stage, which might possibly make him give up something (his nukes) Wait, isn't Kim Jong-un the same guy who amongst other things murdered his half-brother and who fed his uncle to a pack of hungry dogs? Yep, that sounds like a guy that can be reasoned with (Are they forgetting about the Human Rights abuses going on over there --->?).

tRump is an evil, rotten, insane, racist, sexually-abusive, treasonous mad dog with NO brain whose only is in "it" for himself so that he and his family/friends can make money. tRump is OWNED by putin, and these so-called experts on Ari's show are actually thinking that this situation between tRumputin and Kim Jong-un is REAL.

2 of the 3 persons on Ari's panel worked in the Obama administration, and I'd have thought that they would have known what type of thing tRump is, yet they want to give tRump the benefit of the doubt after seeing that Fat Dog & Fat Pony show yesterday, where tRump got almost NOTHING.

Rich Galen, the 3rd member of Ari's panel Said that while what tRump did in going to meet Kim Jong-un may be first step, one has to know that tRump can turn on anybody on a DIME IE: You trust that guy? Galen worked for Dan Quayle, yet he spoke with the most sense of the 3 foreign policy experts on Ari's panel about tRumputin/Kim Jong-un.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,904 posts)
52. I think this whole thing is about the midterms
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jun 2018

They are gonna milk this for all its worth. Use it draw attention away from things in the summer, then around September/October, right before the Midterms, I guarantee they will try to swing a big high profile treaty signing, maybe the official end of the Korean War, or some vague nuclear deal thats easily ignored, or something like they hand over the USS Pueblo to us. Something big and flashy right before the midterms, to try to stave off losses. The sad thing, MSM will eat it and the public will probably buy it.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
53. You forgot the con man's bullshit film flam
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:32 PM
Jun 2018

designed and carried out specifically to distract from and fuel political opposition to the Russia collusion investigation.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
54. The whole thing looks staged
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jun 2018

At first he calls him little rocket man, pushes him around scaring people into thinking there will be a war and now he is making peace so he can look good. It does look scripted, I mean really!

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