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Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:23 AM

Why is it that CNN is the main target of

Trumps war on the media? Seems it would be MSNBC. Just wondering.

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Reply Why is it that CNN is the main target of (Original post)
ALBliberal Aug 2018 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #1
oberliner Aug 2018 #7
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #34
oberliner Aug 2018 #35
Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #45
Rene Aug 2018 #22
unblock Aug 2018 #26
Moostache Aug 2018 #2
no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #3
JohnnyRingo Aug 2018 #4
DBoon Aug 2018 #5
mobeau69 Aug 2018 #28
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #31
mobeau69 Aug 2018 #32
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #33
Freethinker65 Aug 2018 #6
jodymarie aimee Aug 2018 #12
Freethinker65 Aug 2018 #13
jodymarie aimee Aug 2018 #14
Different Drummer Aug 2018 #27
Hortensis Aug 2018 #8
comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #11
NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #16
jcgoldie Aug 2018 #9
Qutzupalotl Aug 2018 #10
LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #29
Qutzupalotl Aug 2018 #39
LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #41
Qutzupalotl Aug 2018 #43
Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #46
Control-Z Aug 2018 #38
Qutzupalotl Aug 2018 #40
tparrett62 Aug 2018 #15
kimbutgar Aug 2018 #17
hlthe2b Aug 2018 #21
nolabear Aug 2018 #18
moondust Aug 2018 #19
oberliner Aug 2018 #24
Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #47
displacedtexan Aug 2018 #20
oberliner Aug 2018 #23
displacedtexan Aug 2018 #44
Nevernose Aug 2018 #25
mahina Aug 2018 #30
AwakeAtLast Aug 2018 #36
ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #37
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #42
Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #48
Leith Aug 2018 #49

Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:24 AM

1. CNN is much bigger, better known, with a larger audience.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:42 AM

7. That's not true

 

The top 25 cable news shows are all Fox News and MSNBC shows.

The first CNN show shows up at #26.

Of the morning shows Fox and MSNBC also dominate, CNN is not close.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:20 PM

34. I stand corrected. But maybe Trump thinks they're bigger.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:21 PM

35. That is possible

 

He does seem to live in an alternate universe sometimes (usually the Hannity-Limbaugh alternate universe).

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #34)

Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:40 AM

45. My guess.. although CNN may have fewer viewers it is

Shown more widely. Say you are trying to keep the MAGAts from seeing the truth. You scare them not to turn on at home. Check. But, you can't stop them from seeing it in an airport, for example. And CNN is worldwide right ?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:07 PM

22. isn't the target for drumpf....the owner of CNN....is that Bezos?

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Response to Rene (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:24 PM

26. No, bezos owns the washington post

CNN is owned by Turner Broadcasting system, which is ultimately owned by at&t.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:26 AM

2. MSNBC is assumed "liberal Fox" by his fans...CNN must be equated with "fake" for them.

CNN has a general reputation of "middle of the road" (Fox = right, MSNBC = left in the most simplistic minds)...

For Trump, where ANY conflicting narrative is an existential threat, it is more important to attack CNN than an already assumed 'enemy network'...it also plays to his desire to control ALL media (hence the constant haranguing about NYT and Wash Po as well...).

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:26 AM

3. How bullies behave on the Playground.

You're a bully. You don't want to waste your time beating *every* kid up to make them your obedient servants.

What you do: You select the biggest kid on the playground and beat the snot out of him and make sure everyone knows it. All the others will fall into line for you after that.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:28 AM

4. I seem to recall a couple incidents during the campaign

I can't remember specifics right now because it was minor, but he started out on the wrong foot with CNN. Since then, they've become his poster child for anti-Trump media, something he felt he desperately needed.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:30 AM

5. with Trump, it is probably a trivial personal affront

Someone said something mean about him and he has vowed vengeance ever since, like an angry 2 year old

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:32 PM

28. It was the scheduled announcement where he was to admit to the birther lie.

He used nearly the entire tv time to promote his renovation of the old DC post office where the announcement was being held and only at the very end did he sheepishly say "President Obama was born in the US". CNN finally woke up and realized they were being used like a cheap whore. From that moment on they have been on him like white on rice.

The epithany was on full display right after they broke away. I was like "finally"!

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #28)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:51 PM

31. As a train enthusiast, I demand a retraction.

It was the old post office, the one on Pennsylvania Avenue, that was renovated and eventually became the hotel. Union Station is still in use as a transportation center. Amtrak serves it, as well as Maryland and Virginia commuter rail services.

This outrage cannot go unchallenged.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:53 PM

32. Thanks for the correction.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:58 PM

33. They're both handsome buildings. Union Station is Beaux-Arts, and the old post office

is Richardson Romanesque.

{Edited: "They're," not "There." Sheesh.}

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:42 AM

6. All of the above plus the Ted Turner/Jane Fonda connection to CNN

Older fringe conservatives have been conditioned to hate anything tangentially associated with Jane Fonda, thus CNN is obviously liberal and unpatriotic. Fake memes are still made about Jane Fonda and reposted on FB and other social media for the over 40/50 crowd.

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:53 AM

12. got to correct your age group

 

65/80......I am 67 and the 40s could care less about Jane....way before their time...

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:59 AM

13. I actually added the 40 because of a hunter friend that posts the Jane Fonda memes

I found it odd that he would care about her and pointed out that his meme was entirely false. He gave me some lame ass excuse that she deserved it because he had buddies that served and knew some POWs. I now hide him from my newsfeed, but he had likes on his posted memes from friends in his age group. I was surprised.

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:04 AM

14. I think I got it...

 

parroting his DAD'S views...we have many of that kind in my small WI town....sad kids who never have had an original thought...

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:28 PM

27. The same phenomenon happens in my small GA town. n/t

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:43 AM

8. Perceived "betrayal" maybe. CNN's previous CEO, Jeff Zucker,

basically created Trump as a national figure. He sold Trump across the nation as a strong authoritarian "winner" on The Apprentice, a show he created for Trump. And he gave Candidate Trump many millions of dollars worth of free air time. and priceless 24/7 media puffery, on CNN. He covered everything. Zucker claims he did it strictly for profits; but whatever his goals might have been, and whoever he could conceivably have conspired with, only a fool would believe that.

Then, after using him to expand right-wing power over the nation, CNN "turned on" Trump by starting to cover him more honestly and responsibly.

Let's remember, Trump was elected as part of a Republican populist rebellion against Big Money that right off the bat rejected all the candidates they brought to the primary. For them, this has all been making lemonade for themselves out of the lemon they have to work with, until they are able to discard it.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:48 AM

11. Indeed one can't overstate CNN's role in electing Trump.

The press has studiously avoided any sort of critical self-examination in the aftermath of 2016.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:06 AM

16. I think that might be part of it

I remember CNN turned on Donny Dollhands when he had called a big news conference and then showed up to promote his soon to be opening hotel in Washington DC. CNN people were pretty pissed if I recall. I think it was late August 2016?

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:43 AM

9. CNN is down the middle

Its been a concerted effort for 25 years to cast unbiased reporting as "liberal bias"... that's how you move the entire conversation to the right and convince 40% of the population that any news they read is fake.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:47 AM

10. I've heard rumors CNN is holding a damaging story

at the request of the Special Counsel. The way Trump singles out Acosta makes me think he’s the reporter who has it.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:33 PM

29. Sounds Intriguing

 

Where did you hear these rumors?

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:42 PM

39. It was on Twitter, so take that FWIW.

The implication was that it involved sex trafficking of minors through Trump’s modeling agency and that Ivanka is complicit.

I admit this is a hard one to swallow. But it does not seem out of character for a guy who feels empowered to walk in on teenage beauty contestants dressing. There are also rumors that Trump went to parties hosted by Jeffrey Epstein, who is also accused of statutory rape by multiple people.

If true, and I stress IF, it does make Pizzagate look like desperate projection.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #39)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:54 PM

41. Why Would Mueller Care About That?

 

There is proof that he is involved in sex trafficking, and the story is being suppressed?

Sounds like one of those things, that if true, will never come out.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:31 PM

43. The sources implied that the story will come out,

but it has to be timed so as not to jeapordize other investigations.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:47 AM

46. How would trump know they had the story? Very

Interesting....because Trump's MO is to attack and diminish credibility of anyone who knows more or is smarter or criticizes him. So that part definitely fits

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:30 PM

38. Would love to hear more about this! eom

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #38)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:50 PM

40. please see my post #39 above yours.

Unfortunately, I only have rumors at this point.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:06 AM

15. Working the refs

Keep moving the center right.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:13 AM

17. Don't forget MSNBC is owned by NBC which ran the Apprentice show. Twitlers only source of legit

Income. If he pissed off NBC who’s to say they won’t force mark Burnett to release the apprentice outtakes. Twitler won’t mess with NBC. Lawrence O Donnell has said this several times on his show. He is very criticial of Twitler yet no attacks on him.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:43 AM

21. yes.. this is why I think he targets CNN rather than MSNBC

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:15 AM

18. Three letters is easier than five.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:30 AM

19. May be an old target.

Apparently Spanky used to rail at the NY tabloids years ago. Maybe CNN became another target because of something they did or didn't do back in the 80s or 90s and he never forgot it.

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Response to moondust (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:14 PM

24. Trump was fine with CNN all through the campaign

 

Did interviews with them and got tons of coverage. Definitely the most of any of the R candidates.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:56 AM

47. Good point. MSNBC too. At some point it all

Changed on a dime. Why? Someone convinced him not to speak at all. No press conferences either. Not sure when Chris Mathews got him to say "punish the women if they get an abortion" but know that ended up hurting MSNBC's chances to get him to speak to them.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:32 AM

20. Don Lemon.

Trump hates him with a purple passion.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:11 PM

23. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks with CNN's Don Lemon

 


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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:16 PM

25. CNN breaks more original stories than NBC media

At least regarding the WH. I suspect it’s a combination of that and all the above reasons.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:49 PM

30. Of course I have no idea but long have guessed it was that to speak the name MSNBC

would bring more attention to a voice he did not want them to hear.

If the other half of America listened to Rachel once or twice, they would listen more. Then he would be exposed for the obscenity that he is.

He thinks he must fight back or he's giving up. Giving up for him means he looses his gold apartment and plastic wife and his family members are imprisoned, and so is he.

He knows what he has done was wrong and still thinks there's a chance the law can be intimidated; I pray to God he is wrong.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:26 PM

36. Who owns CNN?

As always with this president, follow the money.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:30 PM

37. I think he picked a random target

Maybe not random, maybe he thought CNN more vulnerable. He is creating a perception of a “left” version of Fox News, one which anyone on the left knows is bullshit. PR in reverse. Media manipulation

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:26 PM

42. I have noticed that he always mentions CNN and NBC (not MSNBC)

but never mentioned ABC, CBS, or even PBS. Does he have a bug up his butt about NBC in particular among the broadcast stations?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #42)

Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:59 AM

48. Wasn't he pissed at NBC for trying to keep apprentice

Going without him ?

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:48 AM

49. Typical Predatory Behavior

Find a weak member of the herd and keep attacking until the prey is yours. Instead of fighting back as a group, the rest run away.

rethugs don't expect any of us to fight back. They become angry and abusive when we do.

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