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Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:35 PM

 

I just want to say HA to all the surrender monkeys saying Kav was inevitable....

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You were (literally,factually) wrong.
You are STILL wrong.
Youíve been discouraging activism for weeks, if not months.
Sit down and stuff a sock in it. (If this applies to you)
Do the work!

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Reply I just want to say HA to all the surrender monkeys saying Kav was inevitable.... (Original post)
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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:38 PM

1. Please, tell us what work can be done about this confirmation.

I've already made a dozen calls to senators, and I live on the west coast, so can't go in person to protest.

Everyone says to fight, but what can we really do to minimize the helplessness?

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:46 PM

5. More calls, letters to the editors, registering voters and supporting Flake and an FBI investigation

 

Iím not talking to people who are and have been doing the work. Iím talking about the ones whoíve been trying to convince us this is all a waste of time. It is not.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:39 PM

2. I hope you are right.

 

I still think there's a 90% chance this is a charade and he gets confirmed.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:00 PM

11. Predict gives him a 63% chance, down 11 from this morning.

Thing, he dropped a lot when Ford testified, then ounced back with his Emmy-award performance. But with the FBI, it's a different story. They don't care if you yell at them and no Senator will be there to call the investigators off when they zero in on that night.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:40 PM

25. Sunday there is a big interview w Avenatti's client.... the winds change every moment.

 

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:43 PM

29. You are doing a good job following that site and market

 

Provides some needed perspective toward the so-called wisdom of the crowd at a point in time.

I am still holding my Yes shares averaging 44 cents. While I'm glad there will apparently be an FBI investigation I'm not confident it will be full scope and able to satisfy GOP senators that Dr. Ford's version is correct. If not, they'll simply confirm and start chirping that it was all a big witch hunt and that Kavanaugh has been vindicated. Trump will use it as the single example toward the midterm on how the system is rigged against himself and conservatives.

Plenty of risk on our side. That's all I'm saying. The term FBI investigation on this type of thing may sound a lot more comprehensive and conclusive than it actually is.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:40 PM

3. I left Jeff Flake four voice mails last night.



I may get discouraged at times but I never give up.

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Response to Anon-C (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:46 PM

7. Looks like it worked! ❤️👊❤️

 

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Response to Anon-C (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:13 PM

15. You beat me. I only left him TWO.

Lindsay Graham is not taking calls. His mailbox has been full.

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Response to PA Democrat (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:43 PM

28. I couldn't leave a message either

I have lots of relatives in South Carolina so itís even more personal for me

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:43 PM

4. Sometimes I love it

when Iím wrong! 😘

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:35 PM

65. HA! We all need to keep our sense of humor, as well as hope.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:46 PM

6. i haven't seen any "surrender monkeys" here or elsewhere.

and saying "kav is inevitable" and "discouraging activism" are very different things.

personally, i have (low) faith in the republican party i've come to know and therefore i think they'll vote to confirm kavanaugh almost no matter what. i wouldn't quite say "inevitable", but i would say it would take something much more odious *to republicans* to derail his confirmation.

that's not to discourage activism by any stretch. on the contrary, i think we should be working the crap out of this situation and carrying that energy over to november and beyond.

i don't think our activism will derail a confirmation, but there are multiple goals of activism and it's well worth it to be active as hell right now; it will pay dividends later.

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Response to unblock (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:50 PM

8. I've seen many people told calling Collins or Murkowski is a waste of time...

 

Because he is inevitable.
And theyíve ignored all new information and pushback if the last several weeks.

There are many many trolls Tweeting the same discouraging message to Dems. When you find yourself echoing trolls, what do you do? Me? I shut the hell up.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:55 PM

10. me, i correct the trolls; or, i ignore them entirely.

if trolls are discouraging activism, i'll encourage it.

personally, i don't think clarifying that the main goal of activism today is for a payoff in november and beyond is problematic.
after all, i don't want activists to be disappointed if and when kavanaugh is confirmed and then to lose their enthusiasm for november.

activism with open eyes is the only thing that makes sense to me.

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Response to unblock (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:01 PM

12. I didn't say anyone was "clarifying" anything, perhaps you think activists are starry eyed novices

 

who need to be level set about their expectations? I think thatís pretty patronizing, but whatever floats your boat.

There have been great shifts in public opinion over the past month and I see a lot of folks ignoring that in order to go back to their favorite gloom and doom predictions. Itís reflexive, repetitive, and serves no good purpose. It does help depress people though- and bolsters what trolls are saying by adding some liberal voices into the mix.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:26 PM

17. patronizing?

you're saying that we need to tread lightly around activists, and sometimes keep our analysis and opinions to ourselves, in order not to depress them?

but *i'm* being patronizing?

personally, i think activists can handle realistic analysis and opinions, and can be motivated to action even if the payoff is down the road.

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Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:39 PM

23. real nice. real helpful, too.

guess you think more highly of republicans than i do.

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Response to unblock (Reply #23)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:42 PM

27. Says the person who didn't notice the confirmation actually HAS been derailed today.

 

Nice twisted take on things.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:52 PM

38. Goodness. Get a grip.

Be happy. Today is a good day.

Why waste time trying to gloat at your fellow Dems (or whomever the surrender monkeys might be lol)?

Smile. Maybe this asshat will not be confirmed.

Iím still worried, but Iíll take a good development as it is.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #38)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:02 PM

42. After accusing me of loving Republicans now it's "get a grip"?!? Ha ha. Get over this crazy notion-

 

Youíre not very good at this fake nice shit, HA HA HA.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:56 PM

40. again, you're welcome to have more faith than i do in republicans.

predictit has confirmation at 63%. hardly a lock, but still clearly more likely than not.

i've seen a small number of republicans take semi-reasonable postures only to allow themselves to be arm-twisted or bribed back into the republican fold when it counts. not always, it's true; mccain did prevent the aca repeal, for instance. but we've been toyed with far too often for me to get my hopes up. counting on republicans to do the right thing works less and less well these days.

won't keep me from encouraging people to be all up in arms about what's going on and voting in november, and if we can keep this criminal off the court, i'll be more than happy to dance a jig. i like being pleasantly surprised.

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Response to unblock (Reply #40)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:10 PM

44. Again, thanks for all the commonly known information. Not patronizing at all.

 

As you said before, Iím just a snowflake who canít handle the truth. Hope youíre as happy as I am about the derailment today. Iím genuinely delighted!

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #44)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:18 PM

48. happy indeed there was enough to pressure donnie to actually authorize a further fbi investigation

i very much hope it leads to this nomination going down in flames, and ideally, that republicans can't then get their act together to confirm a replacement before a democratic senate takes over in january.

our hopes are aligned even if our expectations differ.

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Response to unblock (Reply #48)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:22 PM

49. To explain more fully, I hope when we despair (as we all do) we take a moment to think about what we

 

Put out there. If a bot or troll is likely to RT or quote you in order to suppress activism or a vote... maybe rephrase too sound more like you do in the post above.
Apologize if I misjudged you.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #49)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:55 PM

58. pitfalls of discussion boards.

i'm a strong liberal and constantly push for effective government in the interests of ordinary americans of all stripes, equal rights, fair play, strong democratic principles and protections for women and minorities, etc.

that's plenty evident if you've read allll my posts here since 2001, but i appreciate that's a tall order....

one hint as to interpreting my own posts is that i tend to be rather precise in my statements (dad was a nuclear physicist, precise statements are in my genes....) if i say an outcome is "likely", i'm *only* making a statement about the odds of it happening vs. not. i'm not saying anything about whether that outcome is my preferred outcome.

i realize not everyone speaks or writes this way and therefore not everyone reads my posts this way. i'll give some thought to trying to minimize ambiguity where possible. not always easy in short posts, but i'll try to keep this in mind....


glad this sub-thread is ending better than they usually do....



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Response to unblock (Reply #58)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:03 PM

61. I'm pretty precise- or literal- too. And since it's a vote that hasn't happened yet I was dismayed

 

to read here ďitís overĒ. I actually thought the vote had happened and it wasnít, literally over!

I did rag on Mineral Man for that first thing today. Iím sure heís forgotten it already but I hate OPs that are factually inaccurate. Didnít expect him to be so hopeless this AM. I was bamboozled. Itís exhausting to hear itís over but so see itís also for some, a way to commiserate.
Iíve had trolls twisting things I sad so badly lately, I donít want to give them any fodder.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:51 PM

9. Manchin and Murkowski asking for an FBI investigation.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:07 PM

13. I'm standing in a deli with a really stupid grin on my face.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:24 PM

16. I'm hoping the FBI or GTFO will stick together on this. Instead of handicapping odds, reporters

 

Should maybe be doing an investigation on Kav instead.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:12 PM

14. Never surrender. I spent my morning making calls.

I also donated through Act Blue to the Nutmeg PAC which is focusing on taking control of the Senate.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:32 PM

18. There are "surrender monkeys" here?

And what IS a ď surrender monkeyĒ anyway?

New term for me.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:35 PM

21. Oooh, JAQing now, are we? Well maybe you do your own homework today, eh? I'm not here to fill in

 

gaps of your education. You are.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:45 PM

32. "JAQing" - sorry you've lost me. What the f does that mean?

The gaps in my education must be vast.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #32)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:49 PM

35. Well there's this thing called Google- ask a friend to help you find it, then it's off to the races!

 

BTW, thatís a turn of phrase- off to the races!- not a literal thing. It means, youíre off on your endeavors!

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #35)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:58 PM

41. For such a good day for all of us, you seem very unhappy.

Iíll find google on my own.

Your sarcasm really doesnít make you cool, ya know. Sorry, Iím not up on all the cool internet terms. Woe is me.

Cheer up! Kav is sliding downhill! Why are you attacking fellow Dems?

Iím happy for today, and my fingers crossed for the coming week!

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Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:12 PM

46. Hmm. So, first I'm stupid because I don't know your silly insult (I assume) term.

Now, Iím just ďplaying dumb.Ē

Wooee, Iím trying to keep up here!

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Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:41 PM

54. Curious. Why would you have to look it up if you already knows what it means?

Makes no sense.

In the time it took you to insult me, you couldíve explained the term. Hilarious.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #54)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:51 PM

55. Poor baby can't figure out what "surrender monkey" might mean... ha ha ha.

 

You funny, but yeah Iím not buying anything youíre selling here.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #55)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:27 PM

63. I've no idea why you've become so hostile to me.

You used to be one of my favorite posters.

Iím no oneís baby, but please, continue on with the insults. Does it make you feel good? Superior? Calling names reminds me of what I just witnessed in the Senate recently. Sigh.

Insults are ugly, so Iíll just assume something is going on with you. Doesnít fit with what I previously thought of you.

A shame that this horrid SC crap has turned you against your fellow Dems. Have a good night dear.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #63)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:34 PM

64. I'm not feeling any sort of a way about you. I didn't call you any name, but called you out

 

for playing games. Which makes you not stupid. Just playful on an icky way. I donít play.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #64)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:49 AM

76. Lol.

Seee ya!

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Response to cwydro (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:54 AM

74. I had to look it up too, and it seems to make no sense in the context of your comments.

 

I suppose I am not hip to all the ďcool internet termsĒ either. Oh well. Op seems a bit overwrought for some reason.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:33 PM

20. Oh FFS, lighten up. nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #20)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:38 PM

22. I'm laughing, but thanks for trying to tell me how to act. Always appreciated! HA.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:07 PM

78. Still think its funny? nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #78)

Tue Oct 16, 2018, 09:00 PM

80. I doubt it but I find it hilarious

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:39 PM

24. FWIW: I am not a surrender monkey

I have been advocating for investigations now and after his confirmation. Yes, I think that he stands a good chance of being confirmed, but even that won't stop me from advocating for investigations. This is not a "in and done" appointment.

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Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:47 PM

34. Excuse me? You're trying to gossip about me here because what?

 

I think you failed to note that poster was agreeing with me. Again. HA.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #24)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:45 PM

31. I'm with you. I'm pragmatic and a realist but I zip my lip before echoing trolls who only discourage

 

Everyone is saying Dr Ford was credible, the majority are calling for the FBI to get involved because yesterday was largely a farce. Avenattiís client has a big interview on Sunday. It is not over.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:42 PM

26. I second that HA!

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Response to whathehell (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:46 PM

33. HA HA! We can enjoy and acknowledge today's small win, and work for another.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #33)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:51 PM

37. HA HA..Yes we can!

been awhile since we could say that. .

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:50 PM

36. Sometimes people feel discouraged...

I know I did. I don't think the chances are good that we'll stop it, but it feels good that it's at least slowing down.

Besides, I don't think this kind of attitude serves anyone at all. 99% of people here do not want him on SCOTUS. But some people can't help what they feel oftentimes.

This has been me.

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #36)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:56 PM

39. I totally get that. It's difficult to have hope. But if you're posting literal discouragement -

 

If youíre Tweeting how useless it all is, etc. ... please remember there are trolls sending the same messages and retweeting honest Dems to spread this disaffected paralysis. This is what they (Trump/ Putin) want more than anything.
This has been a difficult week for many of us for huge and sad reasons. Not helpful to hear ďitís overĒ when actually we are watching a big derailment. There is hope.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #39)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:24 PM

50. Sure, might be agitators, but I prefer to err on the side of "sometimes people need encouragement"

Either we can ignore or we can engage. Ask why they feel that way.

I get encouragement here, but sometimes it's outright depressing as hell no matter what.

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #50)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:32 PM

53. That's kind of you! My reaction was to still hearing "it's over" while in the midst of today's

 

derailment. Something struck me really wrong there, but I was told Iím not being realistic. Also told I was not happy enough about today? I wasnít trying to gloat, but to really correct people who said last week, last month and in July that ďit is overĒ. Maybe Iím being more pedantic than anything. I seem to have upset the pessimists among us.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:10 PM

45. He's still most likely going to get confirmed.

 

But this at least gives us a chance to stop it.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #45)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:15 PM

47. Lol, watch out now.

Donít give anyone a mad!

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Response to cwydro (Reply #47)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:53 PM

57. Ooh, look who is trying to get together a little brigade.

 

So cute, how riled up you are. And youíre not even sure what I said, either. This is gold.
HA.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #45)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:52 PM

56. Another chance is a good thing. Thanks.

 

Obviously Iím not talking about you.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:28 PM

52. I want to be wrong but I still think eventually he will be confirmed.

That's not to say every attempt to prevent that from happening shouldn't be made. But I've been disappointed too many times by cowardly members of congress who cave to the desires of Trump despite great pressure from the public, so I'm not holding my breath. That doesn't make me a surrender monkey, since I am not by any means advocating surrender. It's just such a drag to so often wind up being Charlie Brown holding the football for Lucy.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #52)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:56 PM

60. I appreciate your thoughtful response. It's not about you- and I suspect you realize that.

 

Nobody I know is holding their breath either. Weíre still working the refs, because thereís really no other choice.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:56 PM

59. He is nowhere near stopped

He still looks damn inevitable.

I've made the calls. Flake, Collins, my states two, and a couple others. I'd love to be proven wrong.

But I think counting on 3 or more Republicans to do the right thing is a recipe for disapointment.

I also think counting on righty Mueller is a recipe for disappointment. He will slap a few flunkies on the wrist, to keep us on the line, but no more, and definitely not in the lead up to a tough election for his rw compatriots.


I don't want to see us broken by this, because my intuition is we need every ounce of motivation possible to overcome the dirty tricks they will bring to play come November. And November looks to me to be our last chance. We win elections in November, or we lose everything. That's where I'm pinning my hopes. Not on some republican on a white horse. On the people

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #59)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:37 PM

66. You're not encouraged by the FBI investigation? I'm so proud of the Dems tonight....

 

I think every day for the past week itís been less and less inevitable.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #66)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 01:25 AM

73. Dont get me wrong

I am quite happy with our elected dems right now. They are standing strong, together, and it looks good on them. Id be happier if one of them would flat out call K a liar, as I count something like 8 easily verifiable (and not necessary) lies while under oath. But I think this spine thing they showing us how to use is pretty dang awesome.

But on the other side, I dont think the R's can afford not to vote him in. If they dont, they leave the door open to losing EVERYTHING. With spineless dems, that would be less likely, but with strong dems standing together, they dont dare give an inch. If the court doesnt refuse to play along with Republican election tampering, they face not a blue wave, but a blue tsunami, followed by big blue waves. If the courts and legislature dont protect trump, he becomes superbly vulnerable to the rule of law. If trump goes down.. I'd bet the strings of corruption reach into hundreds of elected republicans. They have put themselves in a spot where they can not afford to lose, even if it means turning the american people fully against them.

Im skeptical of the FBI investigation. Trump gets to carefully set the terms of the investigation. And he got to chose his own FBI director, who has now had over a year to spread the Trump corruption into an agency which I believe its safe to say, was never much of a friend to liberals at the best of times. So I am sure the terms of investigation will be carefully set and fully circumscribed in a way to neuter it as effectively as possible. And I am equally certain that the agents given the job will be very carefully chosen.


I really think this will come down to the election. I think the rest is spitballs and theater.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:16 PM

62. K&R!

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:42 PM

67. Sorry but it's unfortunately inevitable despite our wishful hoping.

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Response to Owl (Reply #67)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:46 PM

68. It literally is not. This post committee FBI investigation is unpresidented!!!

 

The old rules do not apply anymore. His odds plummeted today.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #68)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:48 PM

69. I'd like to believe you but we hold no cards in this game; we are getting played.

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Response to Owl (Reply #69)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:51 PM

70. We have another week we didn't have this AM. So try not to despair yet.

 

Plenty time for that, when it is actually and literally done.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 06:26 PM

71. From the same "Dems don't fight" sources. Clicked on "It's all over"

posts several times thinking the vote was over. One long End of the World one in particular made me radiant with optimism.

The U.S. is not going to be a dictatorship, Kavanaugh is going down in flames, as is Trump. Democrats will eventually be in a position to try to clean up Republicans' mess, everyone will forget what happened or get mad it isn't being done fast enough, refuse to vote to teach Democrats a lesson, Republicans gain power again and start the wreckage again, and the cycle continues. Or does it?

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Response to betsuni (Reply #71)

Fri Sep 28, 2018, 06:36 PM

72. That is exactly what inspired me today!!! I felt misled by an OP this AM.

 

I thought the vote was over. And these past two weeks I noticed every good revelation was met by ďdoesnít matterĒ or ďitís all overĒ no matter how it was actually going. It maybe good to vent, but some is identical to trolling.

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:13 AM

75. I try to avoid castigating or categorizing our fellow DUers BUT

I will never ever forget the day before the election the thread here, I paraphrase:

"across the nation tomorrow morning, republican wives will be telling thei husbands they voted for Trump, after they pulled the lever for Hillary"

And everybody was like: a-yep you got that right!

Except from my Facebook feed I knew white married GOP women were bragging about voting for him in early voting, and he ended up getting 53% of them

And in 3 states, WI, MI and PENN, 600,000 folks voted 3rd party. She lost there by 80,000

Talking about being wrong about the inevitable......you just never know

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Response to GusBob (Reply #75)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:29 AM

79. Good post

 

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Response to bettyellen (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:16 AM

77. The fight is not over...

Don't spike the ball on the 5 yard line.

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