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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:21 PM

 

Ari Melber did it again

I'm getting sick of watching the Beat with Ari Melber on MSNBC and him giving time to Trump suckers. Tonight he had Annemarie McAvoy on who was Rick Gates' defense attorney. She is a FRIEND of Roger Stone. And Ari let her tell the world why she thinks Andrew McCabe is lying about everything he said about Trump.

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Reply Ari Melber did it again (Original post)
Vidal Feb 2019 OP
NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #4
NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #5
lame54 Feb 2019 #13
Elwood P Dowd Feb 2019 #2
OliverQ Feb 2019 #3
manor321 Feb 2019 #6
NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #9
Baltimike Feb 2019 #39
SCantiGOP Feb 2019 #7
ariadne0614 Feb 2019 #12
Vidal Feb 2019 #18
SCantiGOP Feb 2019 #26
elleng Feb 2019 #38
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #56
BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #8
Me. Feb 2019 #55
BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #57
tableturner Feb 2019 #10
IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2019 #14
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #17
Vidal Feb 2019 #20
Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #41
bobbieinok Feb 2019 #11
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #21
Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #30
GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #15
Vidal Feb 2019 #22
Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #37
doc03 Feb 2019 #16
Vidal Feb 2019 #23
doc03 Feb 2019 #33
MontanaMama Feb 2019 #44
Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2019 #19
Vidal Feb 2019 #24
OnDoutside Feb 2019 #25
Bev54 Feb 2019 #27
democratisphere Feb 2019 #28
Gothmog Feb 2019 #32
Rebl2 Feb 2019 #45
democratisphere Feb 2019 #48
Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #29
Gothmog Feb 2019 #31
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #34
Mr. Ected Feb 2019 #35
agingdem Feb 2019 #36
B Stieg Feb 2019 #40
kimbutgar Feb 2019 #42
Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #43
Woodycall Feb 2019 #46
lilactime Feb 2019 #47
radius777 Feb 2019 #49
triron Feb 2019 #50
Hoyt Feb 2019 #51
obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2019 #52
radical noodle Feb 2019 #53
Me. Feb 2019 #54
Quemado Feb 2019 #58
Gothmog Feb 2019 #59

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:23 PM

1. Boycott.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:26 PM

4. You can't *boycott* something you aren't buying or paying for,

but you don't have to watch his show. He does have an annoying habit of interviewing the most biased and disreputable Trump apologists he can find, as well as looking like a clueless dork who tries unsuccessfully to look cool by interviewing rappers.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:30 PM

5. Stop watching. Get friends to stop watching.

They need an audience to sell ads.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:48 PM

13. I call it the Starbucks dilemma

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:25 PM

2. I stopped watching his show because of crap like that.

You might want to do the same. Also, no longer watch Cuomo, Wolf, or Chuck Todd.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:26 PM

3. I saw that too. Joyce Vance said she found McCabe and his book

 

very compelling.

I didn't know McAvoy was close to Stone.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:30 PM

6. I stopped watching months ago. We should all stop watching.

 

He will keep on bringing on Trumpsters unless his ratings go down.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:40 PM

9. This

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Response to manor321 (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:14 PM

39. I stopped watching ALL broadcast and cable news* election night 2016

and I am more accurate for doing it

*Sometimes I watch Rachel Maddow. Sometimes.

But nothing else. I *promise* that you will be able to identify ratfucking coming as a result.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:30 PM

7. Maybe it is because it is a news show?

Which typically presents both sides of a story or issue so the viewer can make informed decisions.
His show is not a Trump tweet or a DU thread; why are so many people here opposed to journalism?

on edit: Of course anyone is free to not watch a show if they believe it is inherently unfair or if they simply don't like it. But I am growing increasingly concerned about the number of people on this forum who want all content on their TV, especially anything on MSNBC, to present only the liberal/Democratic point of view.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:48 PM

12. +1

I give Ari the benefit of the doubt. It makes me uncomfortable too, but I value his willingness to strive for comprehensive coverage. Watching Faux Noise is more than I can stomach, so this is the best I can do. Also, I kind of admire Ariís sly ability to maintain his equipoise while rightwing creepy crawlers ooze their evil slime. They never come off well. It isnít his job to protect me from exposure to the monster.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:58 PM

18. Didn't present both sides

 

In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stoneís. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnít counter them in any way.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:04 PM

26. I didn't mean to attack you, Vidal

My comments were more general about a trend here where people say they wonít watch any show that has RW pundits. If this episode was unbalanced, as you point out, I can understand your concern.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:04 PM

38. Thanks

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:40 AM

56. I, for one, want ALL content on my teevee, phone and radio to present

The Liberal and Democratic POV, The Whole Liberal and Democratic POV, and nothing but The Liberal and Democratic POV, so help me Dog.

That's the ticket. 🤗


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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:35 PM

8. Yesterday he had a really big ass on.

I had to stop cooking and google the guy. Of course he was from some "Conservative America" type group. I changed the channel and waited a long time until I was sure he was gone for good. My remote control gets quite the workout during the past two years. The "mute" button is almost worn out due to Kellyanne and Sarah Fuckubee alone.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:34 AM

55. Matt Schlapp?

Whose wife works with the Huckabee?

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Response to Me. (Reply #55)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:45 AM

57. That's the guy!

I knew his face from CNN but I guess I am not familiar with the details of his group's work and his wife since I try to avoid "that type" of BS propaganda. I know I have turned him off of CNN in the past.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:40 PM

10. I don't want a lefty Fox News! I'm not afraid of hearing righties! They expose THEMSELVES....

.....as liars and buffoons when they speak. The more exposure they get, the better it is for our side.

Irrespective of all of that, guests of that type do add needed perspective. Again.....I don't want a lefty Fox!

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Response to tableturner (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:51 PM

14. I agree. Thanks for the post.

I don't like to listen to them. My blood pressure goes up. My hand reaches for something to throw at the TV.

"The more exposure they get, the better it is for our side." Because their statements lack rationale and logic and people need to know that.

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Response to tableturner (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:56 PM

17. I agree, but Melber seems to like interviewing the most extreme and ridiculous Trumpers,

like Jerome Corsi and Sam Nunberg and other such crackpots, and I don't know why. If the purpose is to make them look ridiculous he isn't doing a very good job of it. I don't want a liberal Fox either, but maybe they at least could invite a few GOP guests who aren't complete loons (yes, I know the majority are loons) so maybe they could at least have a somewhat rational discussion.

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Response to tableturner (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:58 PM

20. No disclosure, no rebuttal

 

In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stoneís. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnít counter them in any way.

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Response to tableturner (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:39 PM

41. But ONLY if there is a rebuttal

if they get to spit out their nonsense and hate with no light shining on the lies then FUCK THAT. That's what Faux Snooze is for.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

11. Has he changed? I used to really like him. Has pressure been put on him to be pro-Trump?

What do you all think?

IMHO we're going to see more and more pressure to slant reporting to push GOP and attack all dems.

The mid-terms were a surprise. More and better voter suppression. More snide attacks on dems, esp women.

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:59 PM

21. I don't think he's gone pro-Trump as much as he wants to seem edgy and controversial.

So he gets crackpot guests like Jerome Corsi and talks like a rapper wannabe. It's kind of tiresome, IMO.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:18 PM

30. yes

He's aiming for a particular audience that may not exist.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:51 PM

15. It's news! The last thing I want is cnn to become the FOX of the left.

I want news that has all perspectives. And for blatant lies to be challenged which CNN and NPR, at least in my opinion have been doing a better job at.

Apparently even a few of the Fox daytime guys are doing some of it. But I donít watch FOX because they show only has one perspective. If FOX ever starts being about the truth rather than Trump spin I would watch them as well.

When CNN, NPR and MSNBC start delving into the inherent challenges of Medicare for all, which they are obligated to do, all hell will break out on DU.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:59 PM

22. OK, but . . .

 

In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stoneís. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnít counter them in any way.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:43 PM

37. She kept deflecting, saying that McCabe is in hot water and lied about everything.

Ari didn't push back and clarify exactly what McCabe did.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:52 PM

16. It is a news commentary program we can handle both sides of an issue

we don't need a Democratic Faux News network.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:59 PM

23. No Both Sides tonight

 

In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stoneís. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnít counter them in any way.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:29 PM

33. So MSNBC should do like Faux and have 5 Democrats talking over

every Republican guest.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:56 PM

44. I'm catching this thread late

but I agree...Ari has hosted a shit shoe the last two days. He is on probation in my book. Done with both sides do it. Done with giving RWNJís a platform. Ari was owned by Matt Schlapp yesterday. It was embarrassing.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:58 PM

19. I thought he was fairly tough on her, making her state her position clearly, no weasel words.

Like a prosecutor he likes nailing people down on stuff and she didn't look comfortable with the whole thing.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:00 PM

24. No nailing by Ari

 

In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stoneís. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnít counter them in any way.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:04 PM

25. I watched the show, and it was grand.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:07 PM

27. Tired of it too

I used to like Ari except for on Fridays but I have had it with him and Chris Matthews bring on the Trumpsters quoting their talking points, they are trying to be CNN when CNN ratings are lower so why would you imitate them. I quit watching CNN for that very reason so I have stopped watching Ari and Chris Matthews as well until they get their brains back.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:10 PM

28. It is always important to know who the enemy is and what they are thinking

and saying. Better get used to seeing the opposition because there will be more of it as we get closer to the election.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:27 PM

32. Last night, Ari did a good job of crossing that trump idiot

Cross examination is an art and Ari got some great admissions


Ari set up Jill Wine Banks well with his cross


I will watch Ari tonight when I get home but I doubt that I will agree with the attacks set forth above.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:09 PM

45. You are right.

The thing is I want the host to stand up to them and point out all the lies or questionable things they are stating.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:51 PM

48. I believe Ari was doing that.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:16 PM

29. Let him know.

He has a FB presence

He has twitter presence.

Surely he also has email.

Let him know!

Light up his twitter.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:21 PM

31. As a lawyer, I really like Ari and The Beat

I dvr ths show every day and watch it when I get home after I watch Rachel. I saw some clips on twitter and I agree with Ari's analysis on whether a POTUS can be indicted




It is not easy getting good coverage of legal issues and Ari does a good job.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:32 PM

34. If I had a show I would have adversaries on all the time. I'm sure there are other outlets or shows

 

to watch if you just want to hear what you want to hear.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:34 PM

35. Not sure how it works....does Ari pick his own guests and craft his entire program?

Or are there limitations to his creative and political license?

I respect his ability to dissect legal entanglements. I loathe his schoolboy fascination with rappers juxtaposed to a consequential discussions.

It seems that we were fed an early diet of dialed-in Ari; lately, it feels like he's been neutered. Sad.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:34 PM

36. If I wanted to watch a trump stooge spout crap as fact

I'd tune into Fox...not going to happen ever

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:32 PM

40. I'm watching McCabe on Chris Hayes right now...

and he seems fairly credible.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:44 PM

42. Daytime msnbc sucks, only gets betters after 5 pm pst

That said only watch msnbc occassionallyafter the 2016 I stopped watching msmbc allthe the time feeling they gave too much press to the orange maggot. Watch occasionally now.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:53 PM

43. I refuse to watch Ari.

His program and guests are just too annoying. Likewise, Chuck Todd has far too many people on who are all too willing to paint Democrats as this vast far-out crowd of left-wing nuts who want no one to work for a living and the government to give them everything.

And when Noah Rothman is on Morning Joe, I usually mute or turn off completely. He is generally clueless white and thinks white privilege is a figment of everyoneís imagination. What I donít understand is why MSNBC, a cable outlet with liberals as 80% or more as its viewers chooses the people they do to portray the Republican side. Iím willing to listen to rational Republicans, who granted are a scarce species these days, but I hope never to see the likes of Hugh Hewitt on MSNBC. Who the hell do they think garners them all those viewer ratings? It isnít Trumpís Republican deplorables who have their Stepford eyeballs glued to Fox to get their daily dose of state propaganda.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:13 PM

46. He is a clueless fuckhead...

on the same level as Chuck Todd.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:42 PM

47. He's like the Chris Cuomo of MSNBC now

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:20 PM

49. I like Ari, he 'reps' Gen-X/90's

culture well, with the old school hip-hop references.

Ari's style is about trying to juxtapose disparate elements of culture (like with the "fall back" segment he does), to see how it all aligns, ie a postmodernist approach that defines Gen-X and the 80's and 90's era.

I think this is what he's trying to do with bringing on Trumpers, to get that contrast.

Don't care to hear them, but Ari often goes at them hard, while being fair.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:10 AM

50. Yeah, he says it's to be 'fair'. Bullshit.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:23 AM

51. Did you believe her? If not, don't you think other people will know she's lying too?

 

Some people wonít care about the truth, but most folks will know sheís lying. Iím fine giving these liars exposure. Most people know the truth.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:26 AM

52. Ari needs to be a

Hannity for the left. Nah ...

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:26 AM

53. I often watch him

He is absolutely anti-trump. Sometimes I think he interviews these folks so he can trip them up. He's an attorney so he often does a great job of interrogating (rather than interviewing). One night he got Corsi (I believe) to admit he was "telling the truth about a lie." I don't care for the shows that have that bunch on, but I've seen him use those shows against them later.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:32 AM

54. And He Never Once Asked Her To Cite A Lie

also, I'm pretty tired of him interrupting people just as they're saying something I'd like to hear. And his jokes are so lame, I guess he never heard that if you have to explain it...

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:23 PM

58. Ari not happy

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:49 PM

59. Ari had a great interview of McCabe tonight

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