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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:39 AM Mar 2019

Let's face it. We got punked.

From the moment that Trump selected Barr, the fix was in. Actually, the fix was in way back when Trump selected Manafort and Flynn. Even before that, when Republicans refused to meet Gorsuch. We got punked when Mueller omitted interviewing Don Jr. and Kushner and Princess Ivanka.

Even if Mueller had done the honorable thing and listed Trump as a co-conspirator and laid out the case for his obstruction, Republicans would have lied and claimed the report was all lies. There is only one way to divest ourselves of this Trump-Republican criminal conspiracy, and that is to win back the WH and the Senate in 2020.

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Let's face it. We got punked. (Original Post) vlyons Mar 2019 OP
I didn't get punked Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #1
100%! True Blue American Mar 2019 #5
I don't feel punked either... Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #6
Wait a minute Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #8
Me either. I was pretty damn sure nothing would come of this. Tipperary Mar 2019 #9
And what is your take on the whole thing? Perseus Mar 2019 #13
My take is simple Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #16
I don't see Republican governance as legitimate, so no, I didn't get punked ck4829 Mar 2019 #2
maybe you did but most people were saying Barr was going to cover for Trump JI7 Mar 2019 #3
Let's face this: It's too early for conclusions whathehell Mar 2019 #4
I am not sure America can stand 2 more years of drumpf without democratisphere Mar 2019 #7
Pretty hard to say we got punked, watoos Mar 2019 #10
Who is "we"? GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #11
I don't agree with that assessment. ForgedCrank Mar 2019 #12
Mueller is no dummy. He purposely punted to NYS, VA and DC secondwind Mar 2019 #14
I have a neighbor who is a melm00se Mar 2019 #15
This +1000 Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #17
Relying only on myself to save myself prevents a lot of disappointment. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #18

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I didn't get punked
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:56 AM
Mar 2019

Perhaps you feel as if you did but I really have a completely different take on the whole thing.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
6. I don't feel punked either...
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 06:58 AM
Mar 2019

I didn't get my pony, but at least I got satisfaction knowing that he wasn't let off Scott free about obstruction of Justice, except by his hand picked toadie.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
9. Me either. I was pretty damn sure nothing would come of this.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:37 AM
Mar 2019

The posters who were sure this would be the end of rump are the ones who feel punked.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. And what is your take on the whole thing?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:11 AM
Mar 2019

My take is, and I repeat myself because I have written the same thing in other blogs.

Barr cut the investigation short, lets not forget that both Flynn and Gates sentencing had been postponed because Muller was getting more information from them. They did not fire Muller publicly, that would have prompted a lot of talk and news, so they did it surgically, from within. Barr's line in his letter about not refusing anything the special council asked to investigate was just a CYA, it is a lie. Ari Melber had a guest the other day, a lawyer who always wears a bow tie, and he was trying to get his message across, which is the same as I am writing here, and for some reason Ari did not want to hear it, he cut him short and never called him back after that. Are we in denial?

You have to think that if Gates' sentencing had been delayed for six months, and Barr comes in and suddenly Gates' six months is too much? The report is out, Barr will do, and has done whatever he pleases with it, and of course the first thing he does is exonerate his master, an orange buffoon...What does the orange buffoon have on these people that they are so willing to pull down their pants when the buffoon tells them to do? His ass-leaking performance last week told us everything we needed to know. No man with integrity and dignity will stoop so low as he did in the ass-leaking exercise which the orange buffoon enjoys so much. Don't they know the orange buffoon is laughing at them? To see Pence do it has become a normal, his tongue must be like sandpaper by now from leaking the orange buffoon's behind so much, but Barr??? A life protecting the law now being reduced to becoming a puppet to a vile human being that is the orange buffoon? How sad, how can these people go home and feel good about it, how can their family be proud of that?

Anyway, I hope the democrats can pull some good trick out of their hats because what is coming is not good. I cannot understand what compels republicans to support someone like the orange buffoon, they have to know he is damaging the country, that he is slowly but surely destroying our democracy, he is destroying their party, that he has no loyalty to anyone but himself...people always say "and his family", but I don't think he has any loyalty to even his family, maybe except for Ivanka, but they have to know that he will bury them alive if he needs to, so what brings so much loyalty? Has he been able to compromise so many people?

Things better start moving fast to dethrone these crooks, the longer it takes the more difficult it gets.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
16. My take is simple
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 09:38 AM
Mar 2019

the Cable Noise Infotainment tends to hyperventilate far more often than necessary.

All that has been released is a very short summary and nothing more as more is released either by the DOJ or The House we will learn more details. The investigation by the State of NY will also likely lead to some interesting finds, but time will tell and these things take considerable time to unravel and to prosecute.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
4. Let's face this: It's too early for conclusions
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:40 AM
Mar 2019

and, btw, it was Garland with whom Republicans refused to meet, not Gorsuch, who now sits on the Supreme Court

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
7. I am not sure America can stand 2 more years of drumpf without
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:00 AM
Mar 2019

being in total ruins. Subpoenas should be flying for hearings on the Mueller report damn soon. Rethugs can't drag this on through 2020 allowing drumpf to run again and win by our rigged electoral college system of voting.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. Pretty hard to say we got punked,
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:41 AM
Mar 2019

when only White House lawyers and Barr have seen the actual Mueller report. What the public is seeing is the Barr report that the M$M is calling the Mueller report.

I will say that Barr did say in his confirmation hearings that he felt a sitting president cannot be indicted for obstruction of justice, so that should be no surprise.

ForgedCrank

(1,723 posts)
12. I don't agree with that assessment.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:50 AM
Mar 2019

It's important to note that anything Bob Mueller came up with was and is going to be very heavily scrutinized. Everything within has to be by the book, letter of the law. Exercising caution is a key element in this process.
For us, we are forced to wait and see.
Bob Mueller just spent 2 years gathering information on Trump and his lying machine. Everyone from his support staff and financials to Donald Trump himself.
I believe the information contained within that investigation, not the report, will ultimately be key in taking this loudmouth offline for good. I'm more concerned with criminal charges because once convicted, the rest comes naturally.
We do have elected officials still willing to do the work, and they are already stating their position of demanding a further look into these findings.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
14. Mueller is no dummy. He purposely punted to NYS, VA and DC
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:41 AM
Mar 2019

to keep investigations going forward. Where there can be NO PARDON

melm00se

(4,974 posts)
15. I have a neighbor who is a
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:46 AM
Mar 2019

lawyer and was a prosecutor and she will always remind people:

"There are things that you "know" and there are things you can "prove". The two don't always overlap".

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