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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:51 PM May 2019

Hillary on Maddow: "China, if you're listening...."

According to the Mueller report, asking China to get Trump's tax returns is fine, since it's done out in the open. So she says, "China, if you're listening, if you can get Trump's tax returns, I'm sure our media would richly reward you." LOL!

Too funny.

She stressed, though, that the Russian interference is STILL a threat. That we COULD lose because of it. Then she goes into...both sides can benefit from foreign govt interference and hacking, depending on when and which country.

Great interview.

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Hillary on Maddow: "China, if you're listening...." (Original Post) Honeycombe8 May 2019 OP
I loved that! Watch rethugs cry bloody murder! nt ecstatic May 2019 #1
China listens and "murders" Jeffersons Ghost May 2019 #49
BTW, Xi (pronounced Shee) cannot be trusted Jeffersons Ghost May 2019 #50
Thank You, Hillary! Cha May 2019 #2
I about fell off the chair, that was awesome. dewsgirl May 2019 #3
HRC says Sen. Lindsey Graham is a disgrace. I agree. nt oasis May 2019 #4
He just went totally off the rails, when McCain retreated to AZ near the end. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #7
McCain kept him in check. Graham's true nature emerged after oasis May 2019 #17
Based on Lindsay's interview upon leaving the committee chamber pazzyanne May 2019 #19
He McCain And Ayotte were pretty off-the-rails in their own right. Gore1FL May 2019 #34
Hillary said that on Cha May 2019 #30
Yep. TO make a point of how ridiculous everything is. triron May 2019 #31
Thank You, triron! Cha May 2019 #32
Graham opened today's hearings with a rehash of Obama/Clinton oasis May 2019 #35
omg! Graham is much more than a "Disgrace".. Cha May 2019 #37
Great moment, but clearly only hypothetical thought experiment greyl May 2019 #5
Of course not. It was a joke. No one would make such a request for real, in public. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #8
It was not a joke, either. nt greyl May 2019 #9
My post was a joke. That's what Trump said about HIS request. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #11
What part? This? greyl May 2019 #12
Go away. There are bigger things to argue about. Sheesh. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #13
It's important to be accurate, even about lesser things. nt greyl May 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita May 2019 #21
True. But do you mean to say Barr, not Mueller? nt greyl May 2019 #22
I thought the OP was talking about Hillary and Rachel talking about how Mueller punted on the ancianita May 2019 #23
I sensed that as well. triron May 2019 #26
Hillary was identifying the Republican Senate's complicity, not criticizing Mueller at all. greyl May 2019 #43
Thanks. I'll re-watch it. ancianita May 2019 #46
Agreed. Rachel and Hillary were talking about how serious it was that Mueller let that Trump ancianita May 2019 #25
I thought they were targeting Barr's ridiculousness today, not Mueller's report. greyl May 2019 #29
They were ... when she said 'according to Mueller's report' what she meant was ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #40
Watching repeat now, Hillary is specifically going after Republican Senate. greyl May 2019 #42
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #16
I'd say there are people who don't seem to have a sense of humor. pazzyanne May 2019 #20
Right, but our joyous, giddy reaction to Hillary's China statement wasn't because she was joking. greyl May 2019 #27
Hmmm. Not okay for Hillary, but okay for tRump? pazzyanne May 2019 #33
Not what greyl was saying at all ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #39
Peculiar interpretation. greyl May 2019 #45
Most excellent dalton99a May 2019 #6
What an impressive woman she is. Taraman May 2019 #10
We would have crushed Trump if not for Comey. (eom) StevieM May 2019 #18
A crushing victory wouldn't have been so razor thin close... Baconator May 2019 #51
You are totally wrong about everything. StevieM May 2019 #55
America didn't deserve her. LuvLoogie May 2019 #41
Oh yah, I can see faux noise picking that up....... a kennedy May 2019 #15
She was trying to make a point I think about where we are at and possibly to take a jab at mueller. triron May 2019 #24
Fatal jab was at Republican Senate, not Mueller. greyl May 2019 #47
This interview was powerful and informative and that underthematrix May 2019 #28
re: Hillary on Maddow marieo1 May 2019 #36
My President Speaks Again!! blue-wave May 2019 #38
It was a GREAT interview. Sparkly May 2019 #59
Hey China... Gothmog May 2019 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author greyl May 2019 #48
It's highly unlikely that China or anyone else can hack Trump's tax returns. Quemado May 2019 #52
Really. That's too bad. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #53
Just got finished watching on DVR. I was pleased to hear her make what ooky May 2019 #54
I agree with that. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #57
Hey China Mr. Spock May 2019 #56
It was a beautiful moment that showed the absurdity of what Barr was arguing. pdsimdars May 2019 #58
One smart cookie. National treasure. Unbelievably strong. Karadeniz May 2019 #60

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. He just went totally off the rails, when McCain retreated to AZ near the end.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:59 PM
May 2019

He became another person. Disgraceful.

oasis

(49,150 posts)
17. McCain kept him in check. Graham's true nature emerged after
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:29 PM
May 2019

it was clear he would no longer have to answer to the person he most admired. Graham is now as shameless as the most deplorable Repub.

pazzyanne

(6,518 posts)
19. Based on Lindsay's interview upon leaving the committee chamber
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:40 PM
May 2019

I'd say he was more than a little angry. Perhaps he realized that he is chose to play for the wrong team? One can hope anyway!

Gore1FL

(21,030 posts)
34. He McCain And Ayotte were pretty off-the-rails in their own right.
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:33 PM
May 2019

He is just taking it to new heights now that he is playing a solo.

oasis

(49,150 posts)
35. Graham opened today's hearings with a rehash of Obama/Clinton
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:35 PM
May 2019

suspected wrongdoings that need to be "investigated". Hillary discussed w/ Rachel how she was cleared after 7 investigations and then came the Bengazi-Email 11 hour marathon. Through it all she's taken it in stride and keeps on keeping on.

I'm so proud of her, the Obamas and our Dem leadership. They endure.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
37. omg! Graham is much more than a "Disgrace"..
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

he's a slimy, Whiny, Gaslit "Whatabout?"!

Mahalo, oasis.. I absolutely agree Hillary and President Obama just keep on keepin' on throughout all their setbacks.. for us!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. My post was a joke. That's what Trump said about HIS request.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:05 PM
May 2019

And yes, she was using humor to make the point.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
12. What part? This?
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:07 PM
May 2019

"According to the Mueller report, asking China to get Trump's tax returns is fine"

Response to greyl (Reply #14)

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
23. I thought the OP was talking about Hillary and Rachel talking about how Mueller punted on the
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:54 PM
May 2019

public request, so Hillary made the joke that it's now legal to call on a foreign power, and so her on air joke.

Did I misunderstand?

greyl

(22,990 posts)
43. Hillary was identifying the Republican Senate's complicity, not criticizing Mueller at all.
Thu May 2, 2019, 01:04 AM
May 2019

Part in question starts at about 4:30

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
25. Agreed. Rachel and Hillary were talking about how serious it was that Mueller let that Trump
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:58 PM
May 2019

request to Russia go, and while they joked, they knew what new precedent could be set with candidates.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
40. They were ... when she said 'according to Mueller's report' what she meant was ...
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:18 AM
May 2019

'According to Barr's BS interpretation of Mueller's report' ...

greyl

(22,990 posts)
42. Watching repeat now, Hillary is specifically going after Republican Senate.
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:59 AM
May 2019
Hillary Clinton: "There are a lot of people, you can read them online, you can read their academic work, they have all kinds of ideas about what to do to protect our systems. The Republicans in the Senate wouldn't at all go forward with some of the bipartisan legislation that was meant to secure our elections, under orders from the White House. Now, why is that? It's because they think it helped them."
...
"Imagine, Rachel, that you had one of the Democratic nominees for 2020 on your show, and that person said, "You know, the only other adversary of ours who's anywhere near as good as the Russians is China, so why should Russia have all the fun?""
Etc.

Hillary was definitely not commenting about Mueller there.

pazzyanne

(6,518 posts)
20. I'd say there are people who don't seem to have a sense of humor.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:43 PM
May 2019

If you can't find humor in things, life can be a pretty dreary experience. I loved Hillary's interview tonight. She has managed to keep her sense of humor in the face of fire. Kudos to her!

greyl

(22,990 posts)
27. Right, but our joyous, giddy reaction to Hillary's China statement wasn't because she was joking.
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:00 PM
May 2019

It was because it was just such a damn true and novel point that resonated. It was indeed a serious, clever point, not quite a joke, even though people laughed at it. If you hear a Trump supporter claim that Hillary asked China for Trump's tax returns, a correct response would be "Not really, here's what she was really doing...".

pazzyanne

(6,518 posts)
33. Hmmm. Not okay for Hillary, but okay for tRump?
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:24 PM
May 2019

Sorry that the irony in Hillary's comment seems to have illuded you. Some of us caught that and found the humor in that remark.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
39. Not what greyl was saying at all ...
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:16 AM
May 2019

Can't believe how much misunderstanding is happening here ...

greyl

(22,990 posts)
45. Peculiar interpretation.
Thu May 2, 2019, 01:15 AM
May 2019

At 9:48 tonight I texted my out-of-town SO also watching Hillary on TRMS, "Oh shit, China if ur listening..!!", giggling.

However, Hillary's sharp point was OF COURSE ITS NOT OKAY, put in such a way that even a stupid conservative should be able to grapple.

Taraman

(371 posts)
10. What an impressive woman she is.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:02 PM
May 2019

I really don't like this alternative universe we've been thrown into. 70,000 votes. Sheesh.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
51. A crushing victory wouldn't have been so razor thin close...
Thu May 2, 2019, 03:13 AM
May 2019

... that a bad news cycle could tip the whole thing.

Let's at least be realistic about strengths and weaknesses so we don't make the same mistakes again.

A stronger candidate competing against the most disliked contender in modern history would have had greater margins.

At best, she would have squeaked by.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
55. You are totally wrong about everything.
Thu May 2, 2019, 01:24 PM
May 2019

Democrats are the last party to not freak out about some ones strengths and weaknesses. We didn't know that the FBI and State Dept. IG office would swift boat her the way they did in the final 6 months. And they did it multiple times throughout the race, which effectively redefined her.

We nominated a candidate who at the time of the last election was the most popular politician in America. We nominated a candidate who has sky high poll numbers for about 4-5 years. We nominated a candidate who for many years was polling the best against GOP candidates among the possible Democratic contenders.

She was ahead decisively, according to all the evidence, until a couple weeks before the election. That's when Comey and Putin did their worst. And they did indeed turn the entire election upside down at the end. And that was after they had already done so much damage over the summer.

Without the illegitimate actions that dominated the race we would have absolutely won in a landslide. It would not have been close. And your claim that "at best, she would have squeaked by" is not supported by the facts. It is only propped up by the fact that you are talking about a candidate who has been swift boated, and therefore is more vulnerable to being dismissed in this manner.

The lesson we need to learn here is that ANY candidate we nominated would have been swift boated. They all would have faced a bogus FBI investigation. And that will remain the case in the future.

LuvLoogie

(6,854 posts)
41. America didn't deserve her.
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:39 AM
May 2019

trump showed just how deplorable enough of us are.

Too many stayed home in 2010 and flipped sides in 2016. Not enough of us give a shit.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
28. This interview was powerful and informative and that
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:01 PM
May 2019

China hypothetical was spot on. The LEGITIMATE President of the United States.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
36. re: Hillary on Maddow
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

The voice of reason and sanity. What a brave, intelligent woman. She would have done an outstanding job of running our country and we would not be in the disaster we are in now. Thank you, Rachel and Hillary for reminding all of us how peaceful our lives could have been!!!!!!!

blue-wave

(4,313 posts)
38. My President Speaks Again!!
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:57 PM
May 2019

Love ya Hillary. You never did and never will take any shit from the republiCONS. I gotta try and find this video. I'll be laughing and cheering all the way through.

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
52. It's highly unlikely that China or anyone else can hack Trump's tax returns.
Thu May 2, 2019, 06:42 AM
May 2019

A Form 1040 Individual Income Tax Return filed by someone like Trump would more than likely be filed on paper, not electronically. To my knowledge, IRS does not scan in or otherwise make electronic versions of paper-filed returns. So, in Trump's case, there is only one copy on file with the IRS, and it's on paper. If he has to furnish copies of his 1040 to other tax authorities, like the State of New York, those copies are also most likely on paper, and not electronic.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
53. Really. That's too bad.
Thu May 2, 2019, 08:15 AM
May 2019

But I would think an accountant wouldn't use a software program, like TurboTax, but would at the end of things file electronically, just because it's safer that it would arrive on time and be electronically accepted. The bigger the return, the more likely they'd keep it electronically, I'd think.

Most professionals keep important documents backed up electronically these days.

But you sound like you work in the biz, so I guess you know. I sure wouldn't know how the 1% file their taxes.

ooky

(8,885 posts)
54. Just got finished watching on DVR. I was pleased to hear her make what
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:20 AM
May 2019

I think is a key point, and the same point I have made in multiple DU posts. When asked by Rachel if she was concerned that impeachment might backfire on Democrats, she said not if Democrats keep working on and passing legislation in the House, the legislation Democrats were elected to do, regardless of whether the Senate takes up the legislation or not. I think if Democrats do this we will go into the 2020 elections in a much stronger position.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
57. I agree with that.
Thu May 2, 2019, 03:18 PM
May 2019

That's a lot to do at one time, but I think different committees handle things, so maybe?

 

Mr. Spock

(4 posts)
56. Hey China
Thu May 2, 2019, 02:09 PM
May 2019

Ya know if China comes up with the idiots tax returns it will spark a whole new round cruxify Hillary.

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