Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:12 PM
Mr.Bill (20,201 posts)
Well, O'Donnell dealt with that quickly.
A simple retraction, regrets, then he moved on. I didn't time it but I bet it was under one minute. Handled well, all things considered. I'm sure he did exactly what MSNBC's attorneys said he had to do.
But I'd be willing to bet we haven't heard the last of this story.
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Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | OP |
gordianot | Aug 2019 | #1 | |
lunatica | Aug 2019 | #2 | |
BigmanPigman | Aug 2019 | #3 | |
NewDayOranges | Aug 2019 | #7 | |
LiberalFighter | Aug 2019 | #8 | |
NewDayOranges | Aug 2019 | #11 | |
lunatica | Aug 2019 | #14 | |
Maru Kitteh | Aug 2019 | #16 | |
Joe941 | Aug 2019 | #17 | |
lunatica | Aug 2019 | #10 | |
NewDayOranges | Aug 2019 | #12 | |
lunatica | Aug 2019 | #13 | |
Grasswire2 | Aug 2019 | #18 | |
Qutzupalotl | Aug 2019 | #25 | |
regnaD kciN | Aug 2019 | #4 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | #5 | |
Rstrstx | Aug 2019 | #6 | |
rockfordfile | Aug 2019 | #15 | |
Polly Hennessey | Aug 2019 | #9 | |
Grasswire2 | Aug 2019 | #19 | |
sprinkleeninow | Aug 2019 | #21 | |
ElementaryPenguin | Aug 2019 | #33 | |
NoMoreRepugs | Aug 2019 | #20 | |
Lock him up. | Aug 2019 | #27 | |
PNW-Dem | Aug 2019 | #22 | |
Lock him up. | Aug 2019 | #28 | |
yaesu | Aug 2019 | #23 | |
GreenPartyVoter | Aug 2019 | #34 | |
orleans | Aug 2019 | #24 | |
bobbieinok | Aug 2019 | #26 | |
sharedvalues | Aug 2019 | #29 | |
RockRaven | Aug 2019 | #30 | |
Hugin | Aug 2019 | #31 | |
riversedge | Aug 2019 | #32 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | #35 |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:16 PM
gordianot (15,000 posts)
1. It will be interesting to see who told him.
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:16 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
2. O'Donnell said he would talk about it if there was
More corroboration to the story. He didn’t apologize for what he said. He apologized for saying it before it was corroborated more.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:37 PM
BigmanPigman (48,798 posts)
3. Good point.
Response to lunatica (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:34 PM
NewDayOranges (629 posts)
7. Well, at least now LOD knows that his source is not credible...
Unfortunately, LOD getting duped gives "fake news" ammunition to the Orange idiot!
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Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:35 PM
LiberalFighter (45,572 posts)
8. He was duped?
Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:39 PM
NewDayOranges (629 posts)
11. So, you're insinuating that LOD intentionally put out questionable "facts"?
Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #11)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:51 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
14. Those pesky fake facts!
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Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #11)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:58 PM
Maru Kitteh (26,315 posts)
16. You are assuming they are not facts. It's kinda cute, your faith in
the official Trump family line. Not, you know, puppy or kitten-league cute, but still.
Adorable. |
Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:07 AM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
17. He wanted it to be true so badly he set his journalistic traing aside
He did us no favors in this matter.
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Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:38 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
10. You obviously don't know what happened
His source is probably more than credible. He isn’t the one who has gotten duped.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #10)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:43 PM
NewDayOranges (629 posts)
12. And you obviously don't know either...
We're all speculating here. And my theory is that LOD got duped.
Your theory that LOD's "source is probably more than credible" is pure speculation on your part! |
Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #12)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:47 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
13. I said what Lawrence said
Telling the truth and the facts is not an opinion.
But if you are going to have an opinion worth anything you should base it on what actually happened. What you’re apparently doing is discrediting. |
Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #7)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:30 AM
Grasswire2 (12,921 posts)
18. you are asserting facts that are not in evidence.
Step back.
Breathe. Try again in a few days. |
Response to NewDayOranges (Reply #7)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:10 AM
Qutzupalotl (13,265 posts)
25. No, he said the story still might be true
but the indisputable fact is that the story didn’t go through the rigorous vetting process. One source is not enough, and he shouldn’t have aired it without corroboration from an independent source.
But that’s how you know you’re watching real news: they admit when they make a mistake, or in this case jump the gun. I’m betting we’ll find out later it’s true. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:09 PM
regnaD kciN (25,614 posts)
4. If you think it's been "dealt with," you're dreaming...
The threats from Eric to sue are probably (although not certainly) baseless, but you can count on a full-court press from 45 and his lackeys claiming that no apology is sufficient and that, unless MSNBC fires O'Donnell, it "proves" that they’re "enemies of the people" who will circulate bald-faced lies to bring down Republicans by any means, fair or foul. And, if they do fire O'Donnell (or shift him to a "less-visible position" a la Dan Rather), it will be held up as proof that MSNBC knows they got caught red-handed. In any event, expect this to be brought up for as long as Trump remains in office as Exhibit A about "the lying news media."
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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #4)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:12 PM
Mr.Bill (20,201 posts)
5. I was refering to the amount of time he spent on it tonight.
I also said we haven't heard the last of it.
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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #4)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:22 PM
Rstrstx (1,317 posts)
6. Thing is Trump would probably just as well the whole Deutsche bank stuff just go away
And pressing the issue is just inviting further investigation. If there's anything there it'll come out.
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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #4)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:56 PM
rockfordfile (8,584 posts)
15. Nobody cares what far-right fascists say.Trump is already considered a traitor by a lot of Americans
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:36 PM
Polly Hennessey (5,403 posts)
9. I don't think Lawrence is worried.
First, it is probably true. Second, a tRump threatening to sue is their usual boring mantra. Used to work because it frightened people. Don’t think too many care what Eric says, does, or thinks.
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Response to Polly Hennessey (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:31 AM
Grasswire2 (12,921 posts)
19. I like to think of this as dramatic foreshadowing.
And deliberate on O'Donnell's part.
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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #19)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:38 AM
sprinkleeninow (18,729 posts)
21. Ya know. That's along the lines of how I was thinking. You put it into words. Thx. eom
Response to Polly Hennessey (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 06:52 AM
ElementaryPenguin (7,799 posts)
33. Exactly!
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:36 AM
NoMoreRepugs (7,827 posts)
20. LOD handled it well and as I understood didnt say it wasn't
an untrue statement, just that it could not be verified by multiple sources as being true. Am I wrong?
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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:11 AM
Lock him up. (6,172 posts)
27. No, you're not wrong.
The plus side is, it will put further incentives for Nadler and Schiff, not to mention judges, to get all DB's documents & tax forms of the Trump mafia.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:39 AM
PNW-Dem (244 posts)
22. Roger Stone strikes again?
Seems like Lawrence and team were set up.
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Response to PNW-Dem (Reply #22)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:17 AM
Lock him up. (6,172 posts)
28. I don't think so.
The last thing the orange mob boss wants (or needs, since he's trailing "bigly" in all the polls out of the states he HAS to win, and against ALL Dems in the race) is to keep shinning a light on that topic. There would never have been a lawsuit because it would mandate a discovery phase.
That's the job of the House committees to inquire all DB's docs on the Trump mafia. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:42 AM
yaesu (7,760 posts)
23. comcast removed msnbc from my package tonight, I will happily be canceling service tomorrow. nt
Response to yaesu (Reply #23)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 09:30 AM
GreenPartyVoter (71,414 posts)
34. I watch it on Hulu, now.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:59 AM
orleans (32,164 posts)
24. what happened????? (for those of us not in the know) n/t
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:10 AM
bobbieinok (12,858 posts)
26. Didn't Rachel a bit ago talk about how much more careful they now had to be?,,,,,,,
People constantly trying to trap them?
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:19 AM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
29. He didn't really retract. He just apologized.
He still has one source. He didn’t retract the info. Just said he shouldn’t have reported based on one source.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:23 AM
RockRaven (12,351 posts)
30. I didn't see tonight, but a retraction was not necessary, nor would it be appropriate.
Last night he stated all the appropriate caveats about the source/information and the limits thereof. For all of Trump's lawyers' bluster, there was nothing actionable there (that they would *win* anyhow; anyone can *bring* any kind of lawsuit of course).
It is a separate question whether reporting unnamed single-sourced, unconfirmed information is the best use of his airtime. It is not, and he should not do it. Acknowledging that having done so was in error was probably appropriate, if that was indeed what he did tonight. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:46 AM
Hugin (31,218 posts)
31. Some grey morning they will find some document storage boxes locked in the back room of a...
Parking garage. These documents will outline the whole sordid story of the Republican crimes of this administration.
An article will appear on page A26 of some newspaper which almost nobody will read. Very much like Iran Contra or Nixon's interference in the Vietnam War. The Status Quo will march ignorantly on. Nothing will be learned and nobody will be saved. This is how the world works and how criminals go free. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:32 AM
riversedge (65,399 posts)
32. Trump is VINDICTIVE-he will claw at Lawrence over and over and never let it go.
Response to riversedge (Reply #32)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:57 PM
Mr.Bill (20,201 posts)
35. I don't think so.
Trump wants this whole subject to just go away. This is smoking gun stuff.
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