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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe pro-life party, ladies and gentlemen.
The body of a Michigan man, 41, deported to Iraq is on its way to Detroit for burial.
Jimmy Al-Daoud was an Iraqi national who came to the U.S. with his refugee family at 6 months old. He grew up American and spoke no Arabic.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-body-of-detroit-man-deported-to-iraq-returned-home-for-burial-20190830-qrv65di6vrb7bitwsinwzo7ezu-story.html
Link to tweet
calimary
(80,700 posts)If you claim to be pro-life, then you REALLY better mean it. You dont get to tweezer out the whole embryo thing and leave it at that.
You better be foaming at the mouth about the reckless wanton destruction of the planet! That blessed orbiting home of ALL life.
AND all those children in cages.
AND all those refugees seeking their own right to life in a safe place where they can provide that safety for their families. THOSE lives count, too! You CANNOT discount or ignore THAT life just because you dont like the color of the outer wrapping.
You DONT get to tweezer out a highly selective definition of life when you absolutely disregard all other aspects of life - including human life.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,064 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)I dont see why we shouldnt do what kkkarl rove did: attack them at their strength. This whole pro-life canard.
They only care about a mass of differentiating cells inside the most intimate and private parts of a womans body.
But they care NOTHING about whats been done to rape and otherwise defile the same ecosystem that supports ALL life of EVERY kind and classification.
NOPE. Im NOT letting them do that.
Its NOT okay.
They DONT get to be selective. If life is sacred, then ALL life and ALL that supports it is just as sacred.
And thats THAT.
You either support all life or you dont. Period.
That means you cant support the death penalty.
You have to be against guns.
You have to release all those children from those cages. Provide them FULL health care and proper immunizations for the flu.
You have to provide them sanitary conditions and decent shelter and plenty of good nourishing food. That whole ALL Life Is Sacred thing, dontchaknow. And you better be ready to restore them to parents and relatives so THEIR life has full support. Youre not allowed to throw them away or kick them to the corner just because they dont look like you, or speak the language you do. That ALL Life Is Sacred thing applies ACROSS THE BOARD. That means THEM, TOO. THEIR lives.
THEIR Life.
No exceptions means exactly that.
AND that goes for all the Life in the ecosystem - which supports every living thing on this planet. You cant just send the bulldozers in. Or dump your shit anywhere you feel like. Or force toxic and otherwise life-threatening policies to be implemented. Sorry. It doesnt work that way and you dont get to do that. You dont get to pick and choose because somebody doesnt have the same skin color you do, or doesnt sound like you or comes from someplace else. Not if you REALLY mean that ALL Life Is Sacred.
Im reminded of the phrase cafeteria Catholic. Which describes someone who claims to be a Catholic but is only willing to accept or adhere to selected parts of Catholicism they like. Not the whole thing. Just little pieces of it. Well, these selective pro-lifers are like that. Cafeteria pro-lifers. They pick and choose what life is worthy of honor and protection and what life can be ignored, dismissed, negated, or destroyed outright.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,064 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)...that the euphemism, "pro-life" is only applicable up to the point of parturition. It has no other demonstrable meaning even if I am just making a generalization. It would seem to be an inclusive term--a package deal--but, in practice is comes down to a fetus fetish and a diversion like the other spells the ReFascist Party, (and their bedfellows, the Evangelical power mongers) utilizes to frame issues for their marks. Talk about making a deal with the Devil and ignoring the details, but then, who reads the license and terms before they click, "agree"?
We could also apply that to "family values" in the sense that, after losing your preferred fetus status, your family is now subject to the perverse Zen of the misused phrase, "pulling yourselves up by your bootstraps" which actually means you are stupid for trying to do an impossible thing. It's a pejorative putdown for dumb asses. Using ideas like "family values" bears little or no resemblance to the reality of it or even the religious doctrine that is supposed to be a source for those values. There is a disconnect and a cognitive dissonance here that is creating a lot of friction.
That's all completely obvious to me, but it seems that words are still some sort of magic spell that lies can be hidden with and actions covered up with a verbal prophylactic of deceit and manipulation. The wolf is wearing sheep's clothing and the fox keeps getting elected to be guardian of the hen house and the ignore-ance continues unabated.
And...I am very saddened by what our government did to Jimmy. I think we can all relate if we were born and raised here. It is not at all difficult to imagine how shocking and tumultuous being deported to a foreign country that is not yours and you know little about could be. This is a travesty and a shameful way for this country to act. Some of us hang our heads and weep. This is very, very wrong.
There is some cruel and unusual punishment afoot and it has a horrendous, stomach-turning stench. Can you smell it?
keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Pro-life is a myth.
The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.
It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.
It is a matter of control.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Grrrrr!
theophilus
(3,750 posts)of women, men, children, babies, and all the unborn. Add to that millions of innocent species that are not human. How is that for murder? They take the prize. The DEATH prize.
Archae
(46,262 posts)Besides being from Iraq, that is...
And how did he die?
(NY Daily News says my "quota" is up for the month...)
He had behavioral problems. He was a diabetic and could not get life-sustaining medicine in Iraq. As he spoke no Arabic, he was dumped in a country where he knew no one and didn't speak the language. He had no chance.
alfredo
(60,066 posts)DFW
(54,059 posts)There may have been some misdemeanors. These days, it appears they don't need much in the way of excuses.
alfredo
(60,066 posts)DFW
(54,059 posts)And the whole world is watching............
alfredo
(60,066 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)A diabetic, Paranoid schizophrenic and a member of a persecuted minority is dropped in a foreign country that persecutes his religion. He doesnt speak the language. How is he supposed to get healthcare and who would want to help him?
He contacted home from Iraq and said that he had been homeless and vomiting because he was unable to access insulin and could not speak the language in Iraq. He said he had been kicked while sleeping on the street.
In the US Aldaoud admitted to stealing power tools from a strangers garage.According to CBS Detroit, Aldaoud, whom police described as homeless, was stopped by police after stealing three cordless drills.
He was a member of the Chaldean minority group, his lawyer said. He was a paranoid schizophrenic. His mental health was the primary reason for his legal issues that led to his deportation.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jimmy-aldaoud/
If he was a white mass shooter, the media would be following the GOP trope of the need for mental healthcare.
DFW
(54,059 posts)They opted for a slower form of death sentence, but no less lethal.
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)No angel born in hell could brake that Satan spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial rite I saw Satan laughing with delight
There's a special sulphur vent for the architects and enforcers of such policies
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,171 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,171 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,171 posts)From his policies to his personal behaviors, there's nothing Christian about him. The fact that the evangelicals close their eyes to his bullshit makes it clear that their faith is a sham.
That says far more about them than it does about Christianity. There have always been people willing to use religion for their personal/political motives.
keithbvadu2
(36,371 posts)Yep. That's Christianity as practiced by many millions of people in America.
stopdiggin
(11,095 posts)not sure if calling their faith a "sham" really changes the facts on the ground much. Plain truth .. a LOT of Christians have no problem with Trump's immigration policies.
Nasruddin
(741 posts)The Chaldeans are Christian Iraqis
Ethnicity is kind of tricky but many are Assyrians.
Jedi Guy
(3,171 posts)struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)"It's about the Benjamins, baby!" Always has been. Always will be.
Where there is money, there are exceptions to the anti-abortion rules, to all rules. Even a filthy scum bucket like Jeffrey Epstein gets what amounts to a free pass until his second time around when his abominable behavior became too much for even the plutocrats he entertained to bear.
Where money is lacking, there are only faceless faces beneath Orwell's ever stamping boot.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)This is exactly what Reagan started 40 years ago. We're here now, even though he's long gone.
How many years will it take us to undo the damage? Where do we even begin?
RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)Suffice it to say I am not particularly sorry I'm 74 and near the end of my road.
As Trump's instability becomes more and more obvious and dangerous, I begin to seriously fear bloodshed come 2020, bloodshed whether Trump "wins" or is defeated. And I despair the future my grandson will have to live in and navigate, a future on a ruined planet run by authoritarian, insatiably greedy plutocrats and psychopaths.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)I have a grandson too, and I tremble to think what he'll be facing in 15 or 20 years. Chump will be gone next year but the RWNJs will still be here. I want to believe there will be no violence next year, but who knows after that?
aquamarina
(1,865 posts)Is finally over, the next president should charge Stephen Miller with pre-meditated first degree murder. Im not a fan of capital punishment but if you commit murder in the name of the state then I dont have a problem with the state executing you. He is a monster through and through.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,322 posts)Put him on trial in an international criminal court, just like he deserves.
Make an example out of him.
Stephen Miller deserves nothing less than life in prison for making public policy from his own hatreds and bigotry, public policy that has caused the death or serious injury of thousands.
I've said this before, but Miller will be a future college case study on how such an incredibly horrible person can quietly (and not so quietly, for that matter) rise through the ranks of American politics and find himself as one of the chief whisperers to the head of state.
Someone, somewhere along the way should have put a stop to him and said "No Stephen, this is not for you. Go sell used cars in Alabama."
PatrickforO
(14,516 posts)And there had better be some fucking trials and criminal charges for these people at every level. Crimes like sending this poor guy 'back' to the native country of his parents when he didn't even speak the language was a CRIMINAL ACT. I have bookmarked this, because I'm thinking we are going to need a foundation to form, after sanity once again prevails, that is like the Simon Wiesenthal Center, that chases down these criminals, assembles evidence for trial and sees they get justice. Because these are war crimes.
And I say war crimes because this is a 'war' of hate, racism, bigotry and white supremacy against any shred of decency and morality this nation has. They have warred against people of color too damned long.
BamaRefugee
(3,476 posts)usaf-vet
(6,095 posts).. especially disabled veterans. Then they are liabilities.
The pro-life republicans only want the political issue to please their base.
usaf-vet
(6,095 posts)Their bullsh*t line that they care about life all life is just that bullsh*t.
They were warned that they were signing a death warrant by sending Jimmy Al-Daoud to Iraq. A place he had never been to and didn't speak the language.