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Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:50 AM

 

Breaking News! Trump loses New York Tax Case on Appeal

He's likely to appeal it to the Supreme Court.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/04/trump-loses-appeal-of-new-york-tax-returns-case.html

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Reply Breaking News! Trump loses New York Tax Case on Appeal (Original post)
OliverQ Nov 2019 OP
Roland99 Nov 2019 #1
vsrazdem Nov 2019 #2
MoonRiver Nov 2019 #4
OliverQ Nov 2019 #5
vsrazdem Nov 2019 #3
pandr32 Nov 2019 #6
greatauntoftriplets Nov 2019 #7
UTUSN Nov 2019 #8
crazytown Nov 2019 #13
UTUSN Nov 2019 #16
Kablooie Nov 2019 #32
malaise Nov 2019 #9
triron Nov 2019 #11
Arazi Nov 2019 #14
shanti Nov 2019 #19
Arazi Nov 2019 #26
Polybius Nov 2019 #22
Arazi Nov 2019 #27
CatWoman Nov 2019 #10
Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #12
randr Nov 2019 #15
Takket Nov 2019 #17
SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #18
louseb Nov 2019 #20
bitterross Nov 2019 #21
Polybius Nov 2019 #23
bitterross Nov 2019 #34
itcfish Nov 2019 #24
meow2u3 Nov 2019 #25
ritapria Nov 2019 #28
OliverQ Nov 2019 #30
StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #35
Rorey Nov 2019 #29
Lock him up. Nov 2019 #31
Jarqui Nov 2019 #33

Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:52 AM

1. W00t!

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:52 AM

2. Where is this info from?

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:54 AM

4. Link is from cnbc. nt

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:54 AM

5. CNBC just reported it.

 

The Second Circuit Court of Appeals in NYC rejected his lawyers' argument that he's immune from the judicial process.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:53 AM

3. Got it, thanks.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:55 AM

6. Yaaaaaaaas!

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:57 AM

7. CNN is reporting this too.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:07 AM

8. Surely the SCotUS won't go out on a limb & saw it off behind?

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:33 AM

13. Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997)

SCOTUS unanimous,

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Response to crazytown (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:38 AM

16. That's what I mean, even with the current wingnuts on the court it would be so blatant

to go out on the limb, but the way things are now...






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Response to UTUSN (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:50 PM

32. The conservatives will probably back him on anything

I believe they’ve all been brought into his cult.

Roberts might dissent though

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:15 AM

9. Hence the move to Florida

He knew this was coming

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:19 AM

11. Good point.

Not a coincidence in timing.

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:36 AM

14. Why do you think his move to FL is tied to his tax return release?

Just because he's moved doesn't shield him from NY prosecution

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Response to Arazi (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:06 PM

19. He gets to keep Merde Lago

by moving to Florida.

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Response to shanti (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:01 PM

26. That has to do with bankruptcy, not his tax returns

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Response to Arazi (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:52 PM

22. Would Florida extradite him to NY?

Depending on the charge, they either do or don't.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:03 PM

27. He would be arrested in FL, otherwise he'd be the most famous fugitive in the world

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:15 AM

10. K; R

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:22 AM

12. BREAKING: He's trying right now!

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:38 AM

15. As long as we are paying for it he will continue to evade

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Response to randr (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:44 AM

17. I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the taxpayer bill to defend his stupid ass

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:52 AM

18. Perhaps the rest of the states where rump files taxes too in, should start doing the same...

as NY, start requesting copies of his tax papers, tax returns, etc. to investigate, being that there seems to be discrepancies in the returns vs. other facts that have been revealed. I would. He's probably cheated on his taxes massively everywhere.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:23 PM

20. SCCJ Roberts is certainly not going to buy Donnie's argument.

and probably neither any of his appointees.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:43 PM

21. The smart thing would be for SCOTUS to not review.

 

Doubt they'll let this just stand though. Kavanaugh and Gorsuch should recuse themselves, but they won't.

Let's hope Roberts doesn't want to live with turning the President into a monarch as part of his legacy.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:53 PM

23. Nixon's appointees didn't recuse themselves

But they did the right thing.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:25 PM

34. Were Nixon's appointees such blatant political hacks?

 

I can't say I know about Nixon's appointees. I was only in 6th grade at the time and it wasn't important to me.

I suspect he appointed qualified people who may have had some inherent biases. I doubt they were such obvious political stacking of the court that Trumps appointees are. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:54 PM

24. They Will Appeal

to the US Supreme Court and that court will rule in Chump's favor.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:56 PM

25. I don't think SCOTUS will take the case, and here's why

Guess which SCOTUS Justice is assigned to the 2nd Circuit--none other than the Notorious RBG! She's not likely to take a case that doesn't have merit.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:03 PM

28. Can Trump's lawyers go to the full court to get the case heard ?

 

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Response to ritapria (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:40 PM

30. The full Supreme Court?

 

It requires 4 justices to hear a case. I'm not exactly sure how this works though. Since RBG controls the 2nd Circuit that this case is based in, I'm not sure if 4 other Justices can overrule her and demand it be heard, or if they can only agree to it if she allows the full court to decide if they want to hear it.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:30 PM

35. RBG doesn't decide whether to take the case. Her role as Circuit Justice is unconnected to appeals

 

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:11 PM

29. We really need to start running some "What is he afraid of" ads

If he's innocent of any wrongdoing, why is he fighting so hard to keep them out of view?

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Response to Rorey (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:44 PM

31. Because he's guilty of everything. n/t

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Response to Rorey (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:56 PM

33. I read a bunch of the Manafort criminal court cases

A number were based on his tax returns and banking/financial info

Even the ardent Trumpsters on the jury couldn't find any way to ignore some of the cases because they were so clear cut.

Having watched what happened with Manafort and knowing one is guilty of similar stuff would be pretty terrifying. And they can get him on a state level for a bunch of that stuff - he can't pardon his way out of it.

Further, if he's hoping his re-election will buy him another four years and toll out the statute of limitations, he will lose some support when folks find out he isn't worth nearly as much dough as he claimed he was. Maybe he's effectively bankrupt except for income from the Russian oligarchs ... which will further implcate how the President of the US is effectively owned by Russians.

If stuff like that comes out, his house of political cards implodes.

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