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Fri Nov 22, 2019, 01:14 PM

Trump's GOP defenders cannot be shamed. It's time to try this instead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/22/trumps-gop-defenders-cannot-be-shamed-its-time-democrats-try-this-instead/

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Itís time to drop the posture that Trumpís defenders can be shamed into accepting what has been unearthed, or that they can be shamed into arguing from a baseline of shared democratic values, or into arguing over how to interpret a comprehensive set of shared facts.

Instead, letís rhetorically treat Trumpís defenders as his criminal accomplices. Not just as ďenablersĒ of Trumpís corruption but as active participants in it.

Once this is accepted, it becomes obvious why they canít be ďwon over,Ē because they are actively engaged in keeping the corruption in question from getting fully uncovered, in the belief that they, too, benefit from it, and that they, too, lose out if itís exposed.

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Reply Trump's GOP defenders cannot be shamed. It's time to try this instead. (Original post)
dajoki Nov 22 OP
tblue37 Nov 22 #1
Scotch-Irish Nov 22 #2
displacedtexan Nov 22 #3
cbdo2007 Nov 22 #4
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 22 #5
Garrett78 Nov 22 #6
hedda_foil Nov 22 #7
BSdetect Nov 22 #8
ramen Nov 22 #9
FiveGoodMen Nov 22 #10
BernieBabies Nov 22 #11
lame54 Nov 22 #12
uponit7771 Nov 22 #13
lastlib Nov 22 #14

Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 01:19 PM

1. They're up to their elbows in kompromat & rubles. nt

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:14 PM

2. It's a good argument, because it's true.

Republicans have gotten a great deal of money from russian super pacs.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:23 PM

3. GOP Trump conspirators

Plain & simple.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:27 PM

4. That is what they are doing to the Dems...treating them all like enemies of the state...

so that's true, we should be doing the same.

I think once they start calling Senate and House Reps to testify in the Impeachment trial, things will start turning.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:28 PM

5. GOP is both a cult and a collection of power addicts

The obscenely rich include power addicts who are not really concerned about democracy, except in how it interferes with their accumulation of wealth and power. The cult is a means of keeping that power. Elected GOP is caught between, but the gang now in office is the result of culling by the billionaires' club and the cult.

The GOP hasn't been sending us their best in a couple of generations.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:29 PM

6. That's part of what I was getting at here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212719011

It does a disservice to deny just how corrupt and, frankly, evil the Republican Party is. For cryin' out loud, they are fine with deporting and, thus, killing sick children.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:29 PM

7. Thank you. Your post there is terrific. Everyone should read it.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:31 PM

8. That's been how I think of them since he came down that escalator.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:42 PM

9. for sure.

you cannot debate these people. write them off, move along to the next.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 04:03 PM

10. If you can't win people over...

Then either you knuckle under or else you have to beat them.

And 'beating' them in this or that election doesn't really stop their fascist attack on the world.

We understood the situation in the 40's.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 04:31 PM

11. Cut Republicans out of your life

The voters are also accomplices. Arguing with them is futile. It's best to figure out how to get them out of your life. Eliminate or shorten visits. Cut off communication. It's hard when others are involved, but I think being isolated may help them see themselves better, eventually.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 04:35 PM

12. This is the closest they've come to accomplishing their wet dream of...

a complete takeover of the U.S.A.

they are soooo close - stay the course

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:23 PM

13. K&R, Find all connections between those senators and Russian money !!!

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:56 PM

14. **Rublonic plague**

...seems to have infected the whole GOPee......

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