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BREAKING: Roger Stone Sentencing Hearing underway. Looks like 7 1/2 years (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Pardon in an hour. Autumn Feb 2020 #1
We'll see Takket Feb 2020 #2
I used to think Trump would wait till after the election but I don't anymore. There are no rules. dem4decades Feb 2020 #3
Just wait till the asshat is "reelected" jeffreyi Feb 2020 #23
No: Attorney General Kushner will have to weigh in... brooklynite Feb 2020 #6
He doesn't need anyone's approval. NYC Liberal Feb 2020 #11
Old Yeller will immediately commute any actual prison time. Hugin Feb 2020 #8
But is he going to jail now? Or will he get another delay? Botany Feb 2020 #4
There is still a pending Motion for Retrial. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #5
Judge Jackson said that he will not be remanded to jail leftieNanner Feb 2020 #9
It is not "during appeal" -- its pending motion for new trial onenote Feb 2020 #12
I Stand Corrected leftieNanner Feb 2020 #14
I think another delay because there is a new motion for Raven Feb 2020 #10
Inmates file motions for new trial all the time greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #17
I speculated last week she's going to give him period of time that Trump won't flip out over ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #7
Trump is not going to let Roger spend one minute in jail... Raven Feb 2020 #15
I don't think she cares what Trump thinks at all leftieNanner Feb 2020 #16
Pardon in 3,2,1... berksdem Feb 2020 #13
he can only take the pardon if he accepts being guilty Lithos Feb 2020 #18
thanks Lithos for the clarification! berksdem Feb 2020 #20
Court taking a break. Sentence should be announced shortly. brooklynite Feb 2020 #19
Here come da Judge! brooklynite Feb 2020 #21
I think that Trump will want to do the pardon in such a way that will show up Jackson rurallib Feb 2020 #22
Judge jackson: 'He was not prosecuted for standing up for the president..." brooklynite Feb 2020 #24

Takket

(21,425 posts)
2. We'll see
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020

Drumpf is trying to shadow pardon Stone with Barr reducing the guidelines. So not sure drumpf wants to do it himself. But is Stone knows things and will testify drumpf may have no choice.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
6. No: Attorney General Kushner will have to weigh in...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020
Jared Kushner wrestles control of Trump pardon process away from Bill Barr’s DOJ: report

President Donald Trump has taken the pardon process away from the Justice Department and given more direct control to son-in-law Jared Kushner and former Florida attorney general Pam Bondi.

The president granted clemency Tuesday to a group of 11 political allies, Fox News regulars and others, and he has put together an informal task force overseen by Kushner to recommend and vet new candidates, reported the Washington Post.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/jared-kushner-wrestles-control-of-trump-pardon-process-away-from-bill-barrs-doj-report/

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
11. He doesn't need anyone's approval.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:15 PM
Feb 2020

That’s just to recommend and vet people. But he can pardon anyone at any time.

leftieNanner

(14,998 posts)
9. Judge Jackson said that he will not be remanded to jail
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

immediately during appeal.

Too bad. I want to see him in an orange jumpsuit. Totally not his style!

Raven

(13,872 posts)
10. I think another delay because there is a new motion for
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

a new trial. I don't know why he shouldn't go to jail even if there is a new motion. I guess Judge Jackson will decide. I hope she's still pissed about her picture in the crosshairs.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. I speculated last week she's going to give him period of time that Trump won't flip out over ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020

So as to make sure that he at least spends SOME time in the can instead of being pardoned and walking free.

I guessed one year. Today I'll say ... maaaaaybe 2 or 2.5. But I'm still betting 1 year.

Let's see what happens.

Lithos

(26,397 posts)
18. he can only take the pardon if he accepts being guilty
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

He loses any protection for "self-incrimination" in a subpoena.

rurallib

(62,346 posts)
22. I think that Trump will want to do the pardon in such a way that will show up Jackson
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:00 PM
Feb 2020

and show that he is the 'owner' of justice in this country.

How that comes about, I don't know. We all know Trump wants more than a pardon out of this. He wants a power play and a power grab.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
24. Judge jackson: 'He was not prosecuted for standing up for the president..."
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:23 PM
Feb 2020

"He was prosecuted for covering up for the president."

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