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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRoger Stone got sentence enhancements. I KNOW a pardon is coming for him and Manafort.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)What is not ok is Trump trying to influence the sentencing and exert undue influence over the DOJ. The constitution provides him an option if he doesn't like the sentence - to pardon him. And voters can evaluate him on it when they go to the polls in November, assuming he does it before the election. Otherwise it's part of how people judge his legacy, as it is for every president.
Buckeyeblue
(5,491 posts)He'll take care of all three at once. It will send a signal--do whatever it takes to get me reelected and I will pardon you.
Gloves are off.
I suspect Barr will probably quit here pretty soon.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,491 posts)RockRaven
(14,782 posts)because if the pardons are sufficiently expansive, and you believe that Trump/Barr will be gone in 2021, then those pardons take away one of their biggest excuses to refuse to testify against others in Trumpland including the Big Cheeto himself -- i.e. 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination.
If they don't have a valid reason, yet still refuse to answer questions, they can be jailed by the judge until they decide to answer (remember Judith Miller?). And of course, fresh perjury in those circumstances is also prosecutable.
Zoonart
(11,747 posts)RockRaven
(14,782 posts)a crime on Trump's part (and/or other co-conspirators like, say, if Jared took a bribe in exchange for advising Dolt45 to pardon someone).
Not unlike firing Comey or others. Yes the POTUS has the authority to perform that action. But doing so for a corrupt reason/in a corrupt manner can be criminal.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Subpoenas will be in order by late 2021.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Claiming bias because of the juror who blogged about trump. At least I havent heard that she tweeted about stone.
Not a lawyer but I wouldnt think that would normally work unless they asked about it and she lied.
The judge is likely to deny if those are the facts in my semi worthless opinion.
The problem is Stone will appeal and the government will have to argue against it. I dont expect Barrs doj to put up much of a fight. If a new trial is granted will the prosecute vigorously or just go through the motions.
My bet is trump lets stone go through a fake new trial rather than pardoning him. Speculation is fun.