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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNapolitano thinks Trump won't pardon Stone because he got half of the expected sentence. Bullsh*t.
[Jacksons] trying to make this bulletproof from a pardon, Napolitano said. Because she went along exactly with what [Barr] requested.
How could the government possibly object to this? he continued. She gave them exactly what they wanted, and its half of the number that had outraged the President.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/bulletproof-from-a-pardon-fox-news-analyst-says-judge-in-stone-case-just-made-things-tough-for-trump/
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)The judge seems to have done this in part to make it more difficult for Trump to justify the pardon. Not that he needs any justification. As much as I hate to agree with anyone on Fox, I think it's an accurate assertion.
I think Stone still gets a pardon, but it's slightly more complicated now. It will also make Trump's inevitable blowup, then pardon, look worse than if a longer sentence had been assessed.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm usually wrong about these things, so I'm tooting my own horn on this one, forgive me ...
I'm not SURE he gets a pardon, by any stretch.
I'd be unsurprised either way, frankly.
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)It basically backs Trump into a corner, but that's never bothered him before.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But at the same time ... it's smart, yup.
As an aside, I know Judge Jackson is very smart, so that's why I suspected she'd go this route.
It's still kinda depressing to ponder though ...
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)Outside influences shouldn't come into play in any form, but that's where we are now, sadly.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...it gets to the point where he asks how the government could object, since the judge gave them what they wanted.
It's what Barr wanted...it's not what Trump wanted.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Stone knows that Trump never pardoned Manafort, who is older, sicker, and got a much longer sentence.
Stone in prison is useful for Trump: "He's a victim of the deep state and fake news!"
Everyone who has ever counted on Trump's loyalty and love has been disappointed, because he doesn't have any of that.
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)he also get less than the recommended sentence
kentuck
(110,950 posts)He will have no choice but to pardon him, in my opinion.
ScratchCat
(1,957 posts)That there is a sound legal opinion that those with pardon power can't pardon someone who committed their crime on behalf of the person with the pardon power.
enough
(13,237 posts)no_hypocrisy
(45,774 posts)Roger Stone has the goods on Trump. If Trump allows Stone one day/night in prison, Stone will release some secrets.
There will be a pardon.
marlakay
(11,370 posts)He knows all of Trumps secrets.