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Yavin4

(35,356 posts)
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:18 AM May 2020

If Biden and the Dems do not win control of our govt, we are done as a nation. Completely done.

We will never get back to any semblance of normality again. Why? Because a 2nd Trump term with Republican control of the Senate reinforces the philosophy that we do not need a federal government at all nor do we need a competent president. As a nation, we will have to face the current and any future global crisises on our own which will eventually lead to chaos. Whatever is left of our government will only serve the needs of the wealthy and no one else.

You may think that I am being hyperbolic, but I just ask you. Look at the current crisis. Look at the response from our federal government. We've lost 21 fold people than we did on 9/11, and the federal government under this president is not doing nearly enough to mitigate the damage to our nation. What makes you think that things will improve if he and the Republicans are given power again? What happens when the next global crisis hits? What then?

Nothing around you is guaranteed. It can all go away. We have what we have because people fought for it and protected it. If we don't protect it, it all goes away.

--On Edit--
If you're some sort of Marxist Accelerationist, in thinking that the only way forward is to tear it all down (see Susan Sarandon), then you are playing with fire. A new Trump administration with a Republican senate is not going to lead to a Socialist utopia. Just the opposite.

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If Biden and the Dems do not win control of our govt, we are done as a nation. Completely done. (Original Post) Yavin4 May 2020 OP
My thoughts exactly exboyfil May 2020 #1
agreed still_one May 2020 #2
Sometimes societies Turbineguy May 2020 #3
If Biden does not win it is PROOF that we are already done and the election was a SHAM SoonerPride May 2020 #4
AGREE! (IF we lose) bluestarone May 2020 #5
I agree! Newest Reality May 2020 #6
Yes, we are. The longest standing democracy that still failed. ancianita May 2020 #7

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
1. My thoughts exactly
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:21 AM
May 2020

Given the blatant policy attacks on Democratic electoral states, I could even envision an attempt to separate and form another country or attempt to combine with Canada. It really is that bad.

Turbineguy

(37,208 posts)
3. Sometimes societies
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

decide to destroy themselves. Trump supporters are anxious to see that the U.S. joins that list.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. If Biden does not win it is PROOF that we are already done and the election was a SHAM
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:29 AM
May 2020

Every metric, every poll, every indicator is that this will be a blowout.

If it isn't,then our election is a sham, akin to Russia, and it is proof that we already live in an authoritarian dictatorship.

Perhaps our democracy is just an illusion.

We will find out in 6 months.

bluestarone

(16,720 posts)
5. AGREE! (IF we lose)
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:32 AM
May 2020

To add we better be prepared to fight to the death against these DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
6. I agree!
Fri May 1, 2020, 12:29 PM
May 2020

I see visions of some form of oligarchical/theocratic Fascist dystopia and it's just downhill all the way. Chaos and a lot of suffering will ensue. Most of us will experience a degradation and are 3rd-World status, (which has already commenced) will be assured, except, of course, for the wealthy few.

Trump acts like a dictator, (a crappy one) and I think that has been obvious and is not just my projection here.

A lot rides on the next election. Well, all of it does.

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