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NEW: Warren responds to Tara Reades allegation against Biden saying and Bidens denial, saying, The Vice Presidents answers were credible, and convincing. I support the Vice President, I support his campaign, and I am proud to endorse him for president.
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The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)"We're just Biden our time ... till November!"
Cha
(295,929 posts)Reade's ever changing allegations where they belong. In the trash heap of RF history. She better not be damaging those who are real victims of abuse.
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Mahalo, The Magistrate~StaySafe!
spooky3
(34,303 posts)Will eventually understand why she is 100% wrong about Reades case, and why Sen. Warren and others are right.
Cha
(295,929 posts)in connection with pushing Reade's story without talking about her inconsistencies. Do I have that right?
Mahalo, Spooky~StaySafe!
spooky3
(34,303 posts)Last edited Tue May 5, 2020, 09:52 PM - Edit history (1)
And I have liked reading her work. But she seemed to have been overly influenced by the new info that came out recently.
Cha!
Cha
(295,929 posts)StaySafe&Sane!
Hekate
(90,202 posts)...but she is definitely overdue for retirement.
Every time I see her, I have to change the channel.
Stay safe, Cha!
Cha
(295,929 posts)Yes, I agree. She is okay when she's a guest on other people's shows and when she is talking foreign policy, but man... on her own show, she stumbles over all her words and just asks ridiculous questions. She's in her 70's. Retire, already, Andrea!
mcar
(42,210 posts)from Democrats on this smear. But struck by how HRC was not similarly supported during "but her emails" and "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!11".
The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)The lukewarm support Mrs. Clinton received is disgraceful, and we are paying for it. Every so often people do learn from experience, however. Perhaps we are seeing one such instance.
Todd79
(166 posts)I think some of it may come from Biden being so well liked. Not too say that Hillary was hated by her peers or anything, but Biden has everyone from Bernie to Lindsey Graham either vouching for his character on the charges or stating that they think highly of him as a person. Hes got a lot of friends.
spooky3
(34,303 posts)shown many times to be tinged with sexism.
I agree with you that it can be hard to sort out the largest influences, but we cannot give the hes better liked thing a free pass. It has to be scrutinized carefully.
Here is one of many articles:
https://msmagazine.com/2019/07/31/its-time-to-get-rid-of-the-likability-factor/
There is also academic research on this topic.
Todd79
(166 posts)More well liked in general. Im saying that everyone on Capitol Hill seems to really like Joe Biden. Thats not a knock on Hillary at all, anymore than it would be a knock on anyone else to say it seems like Biden has a lot of friends who have always gone to bat for him. Biden has always been very popular among his peers is all it means and hasnt ruffled feathers on either side of the aisle. Both sides seem to like him personally. Likability concerns polls among citizens.
spooky3
(34,303 posts)claim that Biden is better liked than Hillary Clinton.
And the fact that you seem confident that Biden is better liked in Washington (or anywhere is) is suspect, if you dont directly work with all of those people. You also may have forgotten that Clinton won the primaries in 2016, and led almost from the start, and she was very successful in many prior jobs at building coalitions and getting things done.
The likability research I referred to has been done in many contexts outside of opinion polls and politics.
You can like Biden more than Clinton, but that doesnt mean that everyone else does, or that liking is free of sexist bias.
sheshe2
(83,355 posts)Teach!
Cha
(295,929 posts)these allegations.. not just VP Biden's "credible answers".
Good on Senator Warren for speaking OUT NOW!
Mahalo, she!StillStayingSafe!
sheshe2
(83,355 posts)Yep, stay safe, Cha.
Cha
(295,929 posts)homework.. that's why I think this is such an important voice for Joe Biden.
U2StaySafe!
mcar
(42,210 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)the timeline of Reade's Allegations and they didn't ring true for her.. or why would you find Biden's response "credible". you'd have to have knowledge of all that was said.. including how Reade "praised Biden" over the years.
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The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)"This weekend in text, she elaborated & specified what might be in the complaint & specific words she may/may not have used."
Cha
(295,929 posts)it with a straight face. I'd like to be wrong.
Cha
(295,929 posts)The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)"Tell her no no no no no-no-no-no
No no no no no-no-no-no
No no no no no"
Eventually it may sink in to even a legacy pundit. The need is to demonstrate strength, denial of what one is importuned to do is read as strength and resolve, and a media howl is an ideal foil for this. It has, after all, no real power....
RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)Sure. That's tantamount to admitting she's lying. Follow the money on this one.
Cha
(295,929 posts)Mahalo, RVN!
Me.
(35,454 posts)We've been subjected to all sorts of mental illness these last several years, lying and duplicity surrounds us.
Cha
(295,929 posts)social media so we can respond to the lies with facts and truth.
Imagine if we just had tv and radio and the liars went on there to tell their stories, and we just had to listen to them.. like back in 2000.
It's exhausting keeping up.. and it's only going to get worse these last months from those who don't want Biden to be President.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The best I've heard so far came from Keesha Lance-Bottoms in an NPR interview I happened to catch. She said "VP Biden is a man of integrity and I have complete confidence in his integrity." It was short but rousing. I like her a lot although I am not very familiar with her or many of the others, so I won't pick a favorite. To borrow a phrase, I have complete confidence in Joe's veep-picking integrity!
Cha
(295,929 posts)I saw a tweet pic of Mayor Kiesha Lance Bottoms and Biden today somewhere but I can't find it now. I wish I would have retweeted it now!
StaySafe, ucr!
Sogo
(4,967 posts)Biden/Warren 2020....
Cha
(295,929 posts)Now!
Mahalo, Sogo!
questionseverything
(9,631 posts)I think liz will bring in the youth vote we so desperately need while not scaring the more establishment part of the party
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)a class act.
Cha
(295,929 posts)Mahalo!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)interesting coming from Elizabeth Warren since they've been so called at odds over the years.
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StaySafe, Tarheel!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)Do Depend on it!
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)Tara Reades allegation against Biden. His campaign along with russians influence is behind this story. This story, unlike the allegations made against trump, including the DNA request by E Jean Carroll, this story is flooding the internet and social media thanks to russian influence. Somebody needs to track ms reade's money spending.
questionseverything
(9,631 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)Short and clear, no further questions needed. The end.
Cha
(295,929 posts)mention Reade.
Cha
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RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)Wish she'd extended the same graciousness to Franken.
Cha
(295,929 posts)reading the history and Al Franken had all those accusers in the heat of the #metoo. So many Senators called for his resignation.
Not saying that Al Franken deserved it.
RVN VET71
(2,686 posts)Franken asked for an ethics investigation and his fellow Dems denied him even that much.
It was accusations such as those made against Biden and Franken that cast the entire #metoo movement into an uncomfortable situation. Yes, I want to believe the women -- as Mitch McConnell has said (when it suits his turtley ass to say so) -- but with accusations such as Reade's and that Republican bimbo who started the avalanche of dubious accusations against Franken, it's not as easy as it once was.
Another brick in the wall of my towering admiration of Ms. Warren. One of if not the classiest politicians in the country.
Cha
(295,929 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)Exponentially more Credibility than some hack at the NYT.
DFW
(54,056 posts)Maybe some see no difference. I do.
Cha
(295,929 posts)There's no wiggle room. Sen Warren has integrity.. she wouldn't support Biden's campaign if she didn't think Reade was a Liar.
DFW
(54,056 posts)In politics, there's ALWAYS wiggle room. Biden came right out sand said that what Reade was saying is not true. I would really like to hear the words themselves from others: "I believe Joe Biden is telling the truth. I believe Tara Reade is lying." It's a big step, I know, and powerful, maybe even risky words, but THAT is what I am looking for in a VP.