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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,063 posts)
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:21 PM May 2020

California assemblywoman hits Elon Musk with F-bomb after he says he will move Tesla's HQ

out of state

Lorena Gonzalez, tell us how you really feel about Tesla’s TSLA, boss.

‘F--k Elon Musk’

That’s the message Gonzalez, a California assemblywoman in San Diego, delivered about Musk on Saturday night after he said he’ll be moving company headquarters to Texas or Nevada.

Her response followed on the heels this tweet:


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Musk has voiced his frustrations in recent weeks over California’s “fascist” approach to combatting the coronavirus. He also said Tesla plans to sue Alameda County, where health officials got in the way of employees getting back to work even as lockdown measures statewide began to ease.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/california-assemblywoman-hits-elon-musk-with-an-f-bomb-after-he-says-will-move-teslas-hq-out-of-state-2020-05-10?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
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California assemblywoman hits Elon Musk with F-bomb after he says he will move Tesla's HQ (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
I wasn't going to buy a Tesla anyway, but now I'm *really* not going to. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #1
Post removed Post removed May 2020 #8
What? rockfordfile May 2020 #10
Well he isn't able. So he's leaving as the others have for various reasons. jimfields33 May 2020 #11
Um. You mean we were a hub for Ford & Chrysler manufacturing & I never noticed? Hekate May 2020 #17
There was one GM plant that became a Nissan plant, if I remember correctly. Blue_true May 2020 #21
Exactly. As VO said, Musk is just being a libertarian dick... Hekate May 2020 #30
No, Musk is just being a libertarian dick The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #18
Exactly. I don't see why progressives ever took him seriously. nt Blue_true May 2020 #22
Salaries in California, particularly the Bay Area are high, even for unskilled people. Blue_true May 2020 #19
He can move else where and there can still be a lockdown . . . Iliyah May 2020 #2
Depending on where he moves, there will be a lockdown or a breakout csziggy May 2020 #4
If so Newsom should make a tax credit for buying any electric car NOT made by Tesla Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #3
Oh, Elon. silverweb May 2020 #5
As a Californian, I would lik to see our reps do what they can PufPuf23 May 2020 #6
I pass by Space X quite often on Crenshaw Blvd. right before 120th, Hawthorne . . . . Iliyah May 2020 #7
The unions approaching in the rear view mirror. demosincebirth May 2020 #16
What about all the other car manufacturers that left in droves? jimfields33 May 2020 #9
That has nothing to do with anything during a health crisis. rockfordfile May 2020 #12
Hasn't Reagan been out of office for almost 40 years at least Governor of California jimfields33 May 2020 #13
A rock does not land on the road below, until it's propelled off the cliff above SoCalDem May 2020 #14
Never heard that before but makes sense!!!!! jimfields33 May 2020 #15
What other car manufacturers left in droves? Blue_true May 2020 #23
I just read the article jimfields33 May 2020 #27
There was never a big auto manufacturing presence there. Blue_true May 2020 #28
I was in California one time in 2000 for ten days jimfields33 May 2020 #29
Musk plans to send million people to Mars struggle4progress May 2020 #20
Musk makes lots of big promises. My bet is on Bezos to reach Mars first. nt Blue_true May 2020 #24
Mars is a waste of time struggle4progress May 2020 #25
I agree. The infrastructure needed for people to survive there would be Blue_true May 2020 #26
Cali protects worker rights more robustly than most other states pecosbob May 2020 #31
I have this slight suspicion... jmowreader May 2020 #32
That would be a surprise. Tesla's stock price is partly due to the cult of Musk. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2020 #33

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. There was one GM plant that became a Nissan plant, if I remember correctly.
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:15 PM
May 2020

I have done business in the Bay Area for decades, car manufacturing was never significant in the Bay Area proper, jobs that required highly educated people have been the engine for the last 40 years, even before I started visiting there. The East Bay, where the Tesla plant is was behind the times, but a lot of high-tech businesses have expanded into there, so things like rents and salaries have exploded upward.

Musk just wants to manufacture in a place where he can pay line workers less, the typical mode of present capitalism.

Hekate

(90,188 posts)
30. Exactly. As VO said, Musk is just being a libertarian dick...
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:20 PM
May 2020

Every single state is suffering, and I don't think Musk is bringing us enough that California has to coddle him. If what he wants is really cheap labor he can try next door to a meat packing plant.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Salaries in California, particularly the Bay Area are high, even for unskilled people.
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:09 PM
May 2020

So carmakers have to pay hourly salaries that are a multiple of what they would pay elsewhere. California is increasingly becoming a haven for businesses that rely on a large amount of intellectual capital, hourly workers are being squeezed out, except for cleaning people, all of who are typically immigrants.

I am in high-tech. The trend that I pointed out has been happening for decades. A house the Bay Area proper that has almost no yard sells for $800,000 to over a million. Prices may be less expensive on the outer fringes of the East Bay or south of San Jose.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. He can move else where and there can still be a lockdown . . .
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:26 PM
May 2020

Who wins, the people of America when it comes to this virus.

csziggy

(34,119 posts)
4. Depending on where he moves, there will be a lockdown or a breakout
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:31 PM
May 2020

He can decide if he wants a labor force for the future or a labor force that is increasingly sick.

And whatever happened to those ventilators Musk was going to make at one of his factories? If he'd been smart, he could have claimed that was where he was making them, blame the lack of them on the shut down, and gotten an exception for essential goods. This shows that he never had any intention on making ventilators and is too stupid to use that claim for his own benefit.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
5. Oh, Elon.
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:35 PM
May 2020

I've admired you for years for your genius, your tenacity, and your willingness to risk everything for your dreams.
Unfortunately, your libertarian proclivities run counter to your own interests in the end. If only you could see that.

PufPuf23

(8,687 posts)
6. As a Californian, I would lik to see our reps do what they can
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:35 PM
May 2020

to rescind any tax and other benefits going to Tesla and Musk's other endeavors for siting in California.

Fuck you entitled self-centered loon (apologize to actual loons as in birds).

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. I pass by Space X quite often on Crenshaw Blvd. right before 120th, Hawthorne . . . .
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:47 PM
May 2020

and still is upset that he moved parts of it to I believe Austin, Texas. Nevertheless, to my understanding is that he is very good to his employees.

Never thought he would freak out like this since he is a man of science, but even some scientist first priority is progress in their eyes.

Another surprise, that COVID-19 is apparently not real.

demosincebirth

(12,518 posts)
16. The unions approaching in the rear view mirror.
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

There’s been trouble on the home front brewing for awhile. That’s why the threats.

jimfields33

(15,450 posts)
9. What about all the other car manufacturers that left in droves?
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:56 PM
May 2020

According to the article, tulsa’s The last company standing in California.

rockfordfile

(8,682 posts)
12. That has nothing to do with anything during a health crisis.
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:59 PM
May 2020

Blame reagan for making not just cars but other things mage in the USA leaving.

jimfields33

(15,450 posts)
13. Hasn't Reagan been out of office for almost 40 years at least Governor of California
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:01 PM
May 2020

And president almost 35 years?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. What other car manufacturers left in droves?
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:24 PM
May 2020

I am in high-tech, I have been to the Bay Area. Car manufacturing there never made it on my radar as being a significant driver of the California economy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. There was never a big auto manufacturing presence there.
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:12 PM
May 2020

I think GM did some joint venture with Nissan, I think, but other that that, nothing.

Did you know that until recently, California had petroleum refiners in state? It was so small relative to the rest of the state's economy to be un-noticeable.

jimfields33

(15,450 posts)
29. I was in California one time in 2000 for ten days
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:17 PM
May 2020

I just read the article that’s it. Obviously the article posted is full of crap.

struggle4progress

(118,032 posts)
20. Musk plans to send million people to Mars
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:14 PM
May 2020

... Musk said he hoped to build 1,000 Starships ...
... the goal is to launch an average of three Starships per day and make the trip to Mars available to anybody ...
"There will be a lot of jobs on Mars!" he added ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-plans-1-million-people-to-mars-by-2050-2020-1

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. I agree. The infrastructure needed for people to survive there would be
Sun May 10, 2020, 09:35 PM
May 2020

beyond comprehension expensive. There is almost no atmosphere there, overcoming that would require lots of sophisticated shielding to protect life from the rays of the Sun.

pecosbob

(7,502 posts)
31. Cali protects worker rights more robustly than most other states
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:46 PM
May 2020

as they do with environmental regulations. One percenters don't like being told they have to respect worker's rights or pay attention to environmental regulations. Take your punk ass to Vietnam or Cambodia if you want to victimize the world for profit without all those silly regulations or worker protections.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
32. I have this slight suspicion...
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:58 AM
May 2020

...that when Mr. Musk approaches his board and tells them, "I want to move the Fremont Assembly Plant because the State of California made me mad, and it's going to cost us several billion dollars to do it," the Tesla board will tell Mr. Musk his services are no longer required.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,282 posts)
33. That would be a surprise. Tesla's stock price is partly due to the cult of Musk.
Mon May 11, 2020, 05:58 AM
May 2020

Remove Musk, and you have just another car company. Then investors will start looking at profits, market share, etc, instead of the charismatic leader.

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