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Fri May 22, 2020, 08:46 PM

Wtf. Chris hayes is back at it with Tara reade.

he's got a journalist who recounted the whole story saying it sounded credible at the time. She did not address reade's credibility issues. Hayes is meekly trying to do that but if you caught the first few minutes of the broadcast you would think reade is perfectly credible.

Hayes is totally inept at covering this. It backfires every time.

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Reply Wtf. Chris hayes is back at it with Tara reade. (Original post)
drray23 May 22 OP
Me. May 22 #1
qazplm135 May 22 #2
drray23 May 22 #9
qazplm135 May 22 #12
DURHAM D May 22 #10
badhair77 May 22 #3
FloridaBlues May 22 #7
badhair77 May 22 #20
rockfordfile May 22 #4
Green Line May 22 #5
DURHAM D May 22 #6
rickford66 May 22 #8
DURHAM D May 22 #11
Darwin2019 May 22 #13
lunatica May 22 #14
tishaLA May 22 #16
drray23 May 22 #17
qazplm135 May 22 #19
qazplm135 May 22 #21
USALiberal May 22 #25
Celerity May 22 #15
radius777 May 22 #18
drray23 May 22 #22
radius777 May 22 #23
Celerity May 22 #27
HipChick May 22 #24
Hekate May 22 #26
Gothmog May 22 #28

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:49 PM

1. Guess He Didn't Learn His Lesson First Time Around

and that so-called journalist needs to be held accountable. How anyone could continue with this is beyond me, her own lawyer couldn't even do that and dropped her.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:50 PM

2. Eh he started by saying there were credibility issue

It wasn't the full on she's a liar you want but no way anyone watched that and came away with it as a defense of Reade.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #2)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM

9. Context matters. Especially in this era of YouTube and media clips.

they did try to say she was not credible at the end if the discussion. Instead of leading with ii, they unloaded the whole debunked story. If you had only caught the first few minutes, you would have a very different opinion as if you'd caught the last few.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #9)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:55 PM

12. Not what I saw

I saw him lead with her attorney quitting and recent credibility issues.

He clearly doesn't want to engage in what he called dragging her through the mud but he repeatedly said her credibility overall was questionable and her story has significantly changed.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #2)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM

10. It was a defense of the Vox article. nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:51 PM

3. I turned the channel at 7:30.

Sadly Anderson Cooper is not on tonight so I turned off the tv.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #3)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM

7. Haven't watched since the last time he did this story

Guess he doesn't like viewers

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #7)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:19 PM

20. I found I don't miss his show at all.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:51 PM

4. The pos coward should've apologized to Biden

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:52 PM

5. I turn the channel as soon as he comes on.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM

6. It did not backfire. He does it on purpose.

He interviewed her like it is May 7 when her article first came out, instead of May 22 when so much more has come out about Tara. He advised everyone to go read Laura's Vox article as if it is breaking news.

iows - Chris is still on his anti-Biden mission.

Once a Berner always a Berner.



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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:53 PM

8. I didn't understand anything the journalist said.

Did the friends story get worse since last year or better ? Or what the heck was she saying ?

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Response to rickford66 (Reply #8)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:55 PM

11. She could of just said -

Attention. Attention. I need Attention.

Laura likes drivel.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:55 PM

13. NPR did a terrible piece on this yesterday

Spent the segment on Joe Biden and Tara Reade and spent about 10 seconds on Trump accusers.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:56 PM

14. I saw it and you are mistaken

It was all about the woman’s credibility issues. The conclusion by both of them was that Tara’s acquaintances and relatives have problem with her credibility.

This is the interview that Chris Hayes is doing to make up for bringing her story in the first place.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:08 PM

16. that's what I saw, too

And I am not a fan of Mr Hayes generally, but he did a good job attempting to put some toothpaste back in its tube.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:13 PM

17. They did discuss her credibility

however, they framed it the wrong way. They led with that article that this journalist published may 8 and then pointed out inconsistencies. For several minutes it was a redux of May 8th. Hayes was still encouraging people to go read this article.
A more effective way would have been to discuss in depth all that has happened since rather that have his guest rattle out the original story and meekly debunk it. Heck, the interview closed with him encouraging people to go read it again.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #17)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:18 PM

19. they literally led with...her attorney dropped her

that was literally the first thing he talked about.

The literal second thing he talked about was recent credibility issues. Now, I would have liked for him to have actually mentioned the specifics of that in much greater detail than he did, but mention them he did. Second thing.

Her original story lays out all of the massive changes not of just Reade but her friends. It's not like it says, hers what Reade says and she's credible.

You wanted Hays to effectively call her a liar. He's never going to do that. Ever.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:20 PM

21. yep

wasn't what I would have done, but it's about as far as you are going to get Chris Hayes on this issue to go.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:45 PM

25. I agree! nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:16 PM

18. Hayes is a solid journalist.

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He had to cover the Reade story because mainstream outlets like WaPo, NYT etc were covering it.

Hayes, as a high profile white male, was (IMO) attempting (perhaps too hard) to avoid being the stereotype - ie the type who downplays women's claims that MeToo talks about.

But even Alyssa Milano and others came out in support of Biden, seeing through Reade's shenanigans.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #18)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:21 PM

22. I am objecting to the way he covered it.

not that he did. It was centered about promoting this may 8th article that his guest had written. They then meekly pointed out inconsistencies. Yet, at the end of the interview Hayes is still recommending that people go read this article. Had he really wanted to cover the news which are that Reade is not credible, he should have focused on that rather than again discuss this article.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #22)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:34 PM

23. When Hayes first covered it major outlets

with credible journalists were also covering it.

He had on iirc Rebecca Traister who also is a solid journalists who also was meek about the inconsistencies.

I'm giving them somewhat of a break for this reason: I think alot of these progressive journalists like Hayes, Traister and even Joy Reed - got caught in a moral dilemma, torn between desire to 'take women seriously' and their natural liberal leanings (to support Biden). These are Gen-Xers who grew up during the Anita Hill hearings, the Clinton scandals etc and I think are torn on this.

I (also a Gen-X'er, man of color) personally have always had issues with MeToo in that yes there has been a long history of abuse baked into our culture against women - and we need to take allegations seriously - but they have to be credible allegations and we can't just 'believe everyone' who comes forward. Because that opens us up to serious ratfucking which is what I believe this Reade thing is - the GOP/Russia/Alt-Left attempting to ratfuck Biden/Dems and get Trump reelected (same thing I always felt about the Clinton scandals, were GOP hit jobs to 'kill Bill' lol.)

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Response to radius777 (Reply #18)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:57 PM

27. Alyssa Milano is hated with a burning (berning?) passion by the red rosers and the BoBers now

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:43 PM

24. Hayes is a Bernie supporter..

If only he cover Trump accusers the same way..

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:52 PM

26. I suggest DUing both him and his employer. I don't say this lightly...

...but we have suffered enough from false equivalencies.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:07 PM

28. #FireChrisHayes is active on twitter

MSNBC needs to fire this asshole

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